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Ranking the overall strength of SEC East programs

Go back and look, not saying UT was loaded. But Stoops took over a team of MAC guys, and some weren't that good.
This. Compare recruiting classes the 4 years before Pruitt to the 4 years at UK b4 stoops. It's not even close on talent level. Top 20 I bet every year for UT and in the 50s and 60s every year for UK. Pruitt should have done better on year 2 if he was any where near being a good coach
 
That should change because UT is off to a REALLY slow start this year. But I know...it's April. The Vols are going to flip all their top targets that are signing elsewhere.
Another lackluster year could really hurt Pruitt's momentum. Strong finish...but still the Ga State and BYU losses are there..and now over 10+ years since a 10 win season. A generation of kids are now wondering what Tennessee football is all about.

They'll always have top 25 classes...but they risk just staying in that range where the UGA's and Florida's are too far ahead.
 
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Another lackluster year could really hurt Pruitt's momentum. Strong finish...but still the Ga State and BYU losses are there..and now over 10+ years since a 10 win season. A generation of kids are now wondering what Tennessee football is all about.

They'll always have top 25 classes...but they risk just staying in that range where the UGA's and Florida's are too far ahead.

Wow. Has it really been that long since they've had a 10 win season? Honestly, I think they're more of a basketball school now.
 
Good thing Pruitt is known for being a good evaluator like passing on Sam Howell for...give me a minute...Brian Mower. Brian Maurer, I mean.

Took this kid from Durham, a track star, and they're convinced he'll end up being a 5-star RB - better than Shipley and Pryor [laughing]
 
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Good thing Pruitt is known for being a good evaluator like passing on Sam Howell for...give me a minute...Brian Mower. Brian Maurer, I mean.

Took this kid from Durham, a track star, and they're convinced he'll end up being a 5-star RB. Better than Shipley and Pryor [laughing]
Or being able to stick around longer than a few years to build something and develop his own and now run off assistants/coordinators off like crazy...
 
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Ehhh idk. I mean it was 4-8 team with zero SEC wins. Lots of Pruitts guys have had to step in and fill in because Butch left nothing behind. He also imploded the recruiting class. Was calling recruits and telling them to go elsewhere. Dude should be banned from working in the NCAA for that alone.

`"Was calling recruits and telling them to go elsewhere".

Really, he was doing that? Maybe I will revise my opinion of him a little, maybe he was against cheating and injustice after all.
 
Good grief dude, you are pathetic!! Please slow down and listen !!! Our out OOC schedules are comparable whether you want to admit it or not. We schedule U6 EVERY YEAR as a P5 ooc team. That is not going to change in the foreseeable future . I told you l would like to see that change, but it's not happening and l don't want MB to be stupid enough to schedule someone like Okla to go along with U6 . It not only dosen't make sense from a financial standpoint, but is crazy for a program on the cusp of taking that next step as a program. You fail to mention , or give credit, that the last two bowl games we've beaten PSU and VaT in bowl games. You tout playing UC, VaT, NCst , Oregon as being that much bigger than us playing U6...really? I'll give you Okla, but the rest you cant be serious! You are getting zero sympathy here.
This is going to be a " agree to disagree" post. Oregon at the time we played them was a top 5 team- each time we played them , having played in a national championship game during that time and the others like va tech ( ranked 16th at the time), cinci had a 10 win season the year before and ended up with 10 wins that year ( one of the reasons Butch Jones was hired here), and n c state ended up with a 9 win year ( their qb Glennon went high in the draft). Loiusville is/was a sporadic good program at best. One or two good years and three to four below average years.You mentioned your wins in bowl games- great, only proves my point that you can compete with those top tier programs. My question to you is why arey ou so scared to schedule these teams ? My opinion is that you (uk) want 4 wins right off the top , so that you only to have to win 2 games to be bowl eligible. Do the math.
 
`"Was calling recruits and telling them to go elsewhere".

Really, he was doing that? Maybe I will revise my opinion of him a little, maybe he was against cheating and injustice after all.
Jones didn't do that ( calling recruits to go elsewhere)- that was coach O during the Kiffen year.
 
This is going to be a " agree to disagree" post. Oregon at the time we played them was a top 5 team- each time we played them , having played in a national championship game during that time and the others like va tech ( ranked 16th at the time), cinci had a 10 win season the year before and ended up with 10 wins that year ( one of the reasons Butch Jones was hired here), and n c state ended up with a 9 win year ( their qb Glennon went high in the draft). Loiusville is/was a sporadic good program at best. One or two good years and three to four below average years.You mentioned your wins in bowl games- great, only proves my point that you can compete with those top tier programs. My question to you is why arey ou so scared to schedule these teams ? My opinion is that you (uk) want 4 wins right off the top , so that you only to have to win 2 games to be bowl eligible. Do the math.
U6 isn't a guaranteed win every year for us and wouldn't be for you either! Nobody in this program is scared of anybody !!! If we were we'd leave the SEC. Stupid comment.
 
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This is going to be a " agree to disagree" post. Oregon at the time we played them was a top 5 team- each time we played them , having played in a national championship game during that time and the others like va tech ( ranked 16th at the time), cinci had a 10 win season the year before and ended up with 10 wins that year ( one of the reasons Butch Jones was hired here), and n c state ended up with a 9 win year ( their qb Glennon went high in the draft). Loiusville is/was a sporadic good program at best. One or two good years and three to four below average years.You mentioned your wins in bowl games- great, only proves my point that you can compete with those top tier programs. My question to you is why arey ou so scared to schedule these teams ? My opinion is that you (uk) want 4 wins right off the top , so that you only to have to win 2 games to be bowl eligible. Do the math.

It sounds to me like your schedule only proves how dumb you are, it isn't like you are Clemson or Bama you know. Or more likely maybe you don't know. I think we will play for the SEC championship before you do.
 
This is going to be a " agree to disagree" post. Oregon at the time we played them was a top 5 team- each time we played them , having played in a national championship game during that time and the others like va tech ( ranked 16th at the time), cinci had a 10 win season the year before and ended up with 10 wins that year ( one of the reasons Butch Jones was hired here), and n c state ended up with a 9 win year ( their qb Glennon went high in the draft). Loiusville is/was a sporadic good program at best. One or two good years and three to four below average years.You mentioned your wins in bowl games- great, only proves my point that you can compete with those top tier programs. My question to you is why arey ou so scared to schedule these teams ? My opinion is that you (uk) want 4 wins right off the top , so that you only to have to win 2 games to be bowl eligible. Do the math.

What?! Just making things up now. That State team didn't win 9 games. They upset FSU but that was the highlight of their season. I think they finished 7-6 with a loss to Vanderbilt in their bowl game. Glennon wasn't that good either. 3rd round draft pick. Think he's currently a FA. Do you guys even bother to look stuff up?
 
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What?! Just making things up now. That State team didn't win 9 games. They upset FSU but that was the highlight of their season. I think they finished 7-6 with a loss to Vanderbilt in their bowl game. Glennon wasn't that good either. 3rd round draft pick. Think he's currently a FA. Do you guys even bother to look stuff up?
He’s talking about the year before. They had that DB that Bray and our WRs just clowned. He was like All ACC or something like that. I’d like to stiffen up the schedule but Fulmers been doing that. They’re in talks with some western schools for some home and homes.
 
Good thing Pruitt is known for being a good evaluator like passing on Sam Howell for...give me a minute...Brian Mower. Brian Maurer, I mean.

Took this kid from Durham, a track star, and they're convinced he'll end up being a 5-star RB - better than Shipley and Pryor [laughing]

We seemed to lead for Howell for awhile, but Taggart did a nice job convincing him to go FSU, but I think some of that had to do with Taggart hiring Walt Bell as his OC. Howell had a really good relationship with Bell when Bell was OC at Maryland and was recruiting him to come there.

I think Maurer will end up being a good QB, but I am not sure he stays at UT unless he can beat out Bailey ,and/or Daniels (USC transfer), if the latter were to end up at UT. Maurer looked pretty good in the first half against MSU before his concussion (he's got a good arm and some wheels, he just needs to learn coverages better), but then after the 2nd head injury against Bama he sat for a month and looked very rusty in the first half against UK. But Harbaugh wanted him badly at Michigan, and Harbaugh knows QBs.

UT did get a nice commitment today though from 5* WDE out of Alabama Dylan Brooks, despite his parents being big Auburn fans. He actually attended the UT-Vandy game over the Iron Bowl in November, Just hope we can hang on to him.
 
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Good thing Pruitt is known for being a good evaluator like passing on Sam Howell for...give me a minute...Brian Mower. Brian Maurer, I mean.

Took this kid from Durham, a track star, and they're convinced he'll end up being a 5-star RB - better than Shipley and Pryor [laughing]
Jay Graham is an elite RB coach. Idk if he will be better than Shipley or Pryor. But him and Cody Brown, who I think we land, will be a good tandem.
 
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He’s talking about the year before. They had that DB that Bray and our WRs just clowned. He was like All ACC or something like that. I’d like to stiffen up the schedule but Fulmers been doing that. They’re in talks with some western schools for some home and homes.

lol Just stop. Go actually look it up. You guys didn't even play them the year before.
 
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We seemed to lead for Howell for awhile, but Taggart did a nice job convincing him to go FSU, but I think some of that had to do with Taggart hiring Walt Bell as his OC. Howell had a really good relationship with Bell when Bell was OC at Maryland and was recruiting him to come there.

I think Maurer will end up being a good QB, but I am not sure he stays at UT unless he can beat out Bailey ,and/or Daniels (USC transfer), if the latter were to end up at UT. Maurer looked pretty good in the first half against MSU before his concussion (he's got a good arm and some wheels, he just needs to learn coverages better), but then after the 2nd head injury against Bama he sat for a month and looked very rusty in the first half against UK. But Harbaugh wanted him badly at Michigan, and Harbaugh knows QBs.

UT did get a nice commitment today though from 5* WDE out of Alabama Dylan Brooks, despite his parents being big Auburn fans. He actually attended the UT-Vandy game over the Iron Bowl in November, Just hope we can hang on to him.

I swear Howell was dead set on going to UT but Pruitt wouldn't accept his commitment. Dylan Brooks, though, you guys got a good one there. Keep landing 4/5 stars and you'll finish in the top 10.
 
He’s talking about the year before. They had that DB that Bray and our WRs just clowned. He was like All ACC or something like that. I’d like to stiffen up the schedule but Fulmers been doing that. They’re in talks with some western schools for some home and homes.

Tell Phat Phil not to worry about stiffening up the schedule.

UK is going to take care of that for him.
 
We seemed to lead for Howell for awhile, but Taggart did a nice job convincing him to go FSU, but I think some of that had to do with Taggart hiring Walt Bell as his OC. Howell had a really good relationship with Bell when Bell was OC at Maryland and was recruiting him to come there.

I think Maurer will end up being a good QB, but I am not sure he stays at UT unless he can beat out Bailey ,and/or Daniels (USC transfer), if the latter were to end up at UT. Maurer looked pretty good in the first half against MSU before his concussion (he's got a good arm and some wheels, he just needs to learn coverages better), but then after the 2nd head injury against Bama he sat for a month and looked very rusty in the first half against UK. But Harbaugh wanted him badly at Michigan, and Harbaugh knows QBs.

UT did get a nice commitment today though from 5* WDE out of Alabama Dylan Brooks, despite his parents being big Auburn fans. He actually attended the UT-Vandy game over the Iron Bowl in November, Just hope we can hang on to him.

Man you guys are so full of it, in case you forgot where you are you are on a Rivals site, and your "five star" is not only not a five star on this site, he is only a 5.9 four star, two steps down. And while your class is ranked pretty high right now that is only because you already have 11 commits, and besides the two four stars (the other one is a 5.8) you only have two 5.7s with five 5.6s and a 5.5. Plus you have one not even ranked yet, a zero so far So overall your class averages a lofty 5.66, and that isn't counting your zero. Do you remember about three years ago when Georgia had 27 commits that AVERAGED a 5.90 (HIGH four star), way to gain on them, pretty sure you are almost there..
 
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I love having y’all on the schedule. Circle that date for a guaranteed Tennessee dub.

I love the FACT that we owe you at least two, I can't wait to play you again, and I don't care if it is away. I just hope we somehow get the season in, but no one seems to want to have the players take a chance on playing. If I were on any P5 team I would want to take the risk without any hesitation (minor IMO, checked out for any hidden problems, right age group, mostly specimens to start with, best of medical attention and early detection, etc, if you were born you are going to die some day), maybe only the P5 teams play, would save most of the TV money which is a big part of the SEC MILLIONS now, forget the crowds, let them watch it at home and donate all they save to their University if they like. Send our young men off to war with terrorists but worry about the minor chance that our spoiled football players get seriously ill with the best of monitoring and treatment. All the young invincibles running around without precautions will kill more people than them playing football will.
 
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I love having y’all on the schedule. Circle that date for a guaranteed Tennessee dub.

Nothing in life is guaranteed, I guess you must think it is even a guarantee we play this year. The first thing I hope you are right about, and it would be about the first time you are right about anything.
 
Robert Gillespie thought Jalen Hurd who is a TE/WR now was better than Rookie of the Year Alvin Kamara.

I assumed you were talking about recruiting. Graham has had like two top 25 rushing offenses in 10+ years as a RB coach. Not much of a track record. Gillespie has been good overall for us as has Thig.
 
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Why? He didn’t play here. He doesn’t have Cam Akers, Marcus Lattimore, Dalvin Cook and others under his belt.

Akers was with Jimbo Fisher at FSU. Cook was also with Jimbo Fisher at FSU and was an in-state recruit. Lattimore was with Steve Spurrier at USCe and was also an in-state recruit. So his top 3 recruits all time were with HOF coaches that had their programs rolling and two were in-state. Now he's at UT (for what the second or third time?) with Pruitt in a rebuild. Obviously a totally different situation.

Graham's not bad. I just think he's a tad overrated, whereas Kitchings was somewhat impressive at NC State. Graham is from NC but Kitchings has much better ties to the region which is probably why SC wanted him. That and he's a decent coach with some experience.
 
Man you guys are so full of it, in case you forgot where you are you are on a Rivals site, and your "five star" is not only not a five star on this site, he is only a 5.9 four star, two steps down. And while your class is ranked pretty high right now that is only because you already have 11 commits, and besides the two four stars (the other one is a 5.8) you only have two 5.7s with five 5.6s and a 5.5. Plus you have one not even ranked yet, a zero so far So overall your class averages a lofty 5.66, and that isn't counting your zero. Do you remember about three years ago when Georgia had 27 commits that AVERAGED a 5.90 (HIGH four star), way to gain on them, pretty sure you are almost there..

Well, he is a 5* in the 247 rankings and listed as the #1 player out of Alabama, so I guess I will just have to live with Rivals only ranking Brooks a 5.9 4*, 2 whole steps down. [laughing] Thanks for the chuckle. He is a top 100 player no matter how you cut it.

Darrell Jackson is the 0* you are referring to out of south Florida. Meh. So what? There is limited tape on him and he hasn't attended any Rivals camps to my knowledge, but 247 has him an 87 3*, and Pruitt liked his abilities off the edge in camp. Miami also offered. He is only listed as a soft commit right now as he may well pick up more interest his sr. season.

It's funny how you use UGA's recruiting as opposed to UK's recruiting to downplay Pruitt's recruiting.
 
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