Quit attacking everybody…

[BigBlue1992]

This is a message board and not just some but many on here are constantly attacking everybody who questions anything.

For those who are acting like this has been a perfect season you are foolish. Tubby Smith’s first season ended in perfection. Unless we go on a run and get to at least the Elite 8 or Final 4, this is far from a perfect season. Those who jump on anybody for saying otherwise, please shut up and let people voice their opinions.

For those who are hollering that Mark Pope isn’t the guy are foolish. He got here late and has dealt with lots of injuries and adversity. Nobody should be saying he’s not the right guy at least not after his first year.

Justin Rowland said something similar to this a week or two ago on Twitter. “If you think Mark Pope isn’t the guy you’re crazy. This is his first year and had done a solid job. If you think Mark Pope is the guy you’re crazy. He’s never won an NCAA tournament game.”

Attack me, I don’t care but deep down this is how it is at this moment.

 

[jace2012]

Well I don’t think he’s the right fit but I’ll support him as I did the coaches before him. Let’s see what he does in recruiting, I think that will go a long way fixing the defense

 

[CatFanInIlliniLand]

Let it play out is correct.

I really like Pope because I am partial to the 90’s era of UK basketball. I want him to do well because he’s not just the current UK coach, he’s one of our own. Coaching at a high level program is demanding though. Villanova just fired Neptune whom everyone seemed to love when he was hired. The bottom line is Coach Pope will have to win at a high rate.

 

[BigBlue1992]

Well I don’t think he’s the right fit but I’ll support him as I did the coaches before him. Let’s see what he does in recruiting, I think that will go a long way fixing the defense

I very much agree with this.

 

[BigBlue1992]

Let it play out is correct.

I really like Pope because I am partial to the 90’s era of UK basketball. I want him to do well because he’s not just the current UK coach, he’s one of our own. Coaching at a high level program is demanding though. Villanova just fired Neptune whom everyone seemed to love when he was as hired. The bottom line is Coach Pope will have to win at a high rate.

Exactly. This year is a pass but next year (unless we go on a huge run this year) he will have to win at a high rate like you said.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

This is a message board and not just some but many on here are constantly attacking everybody who questions anything.

For those who are acting like this has been a perfect season you are foolish. Tubby Smith’s first season ended in perfection. Unless we go on a run and get to at least the Elite 8 or Final 4, this is far from a perfect season. Those who jump on anybody for saying otherwise, please shut up and let people voice their opinions.

For those who are hollering that Mark Pope isn’t the guy are foolish. He got here late and has dealt with lots of injuries and adversity. Nobody should be saying he’s not the right guy at least not after his first year.

Justin Rowland said something similar to this a week or two ago on Twitter. “If you think Mark Pope isn’t the guy you’re crazy. This is his first year and had done a solid job. If you think Mark Pope is the guy you’re crazy. He’s never won an NCAA tournament game.”

Attack me, I don’t care but deep down this is how it is at this moment.

Your post was all over the place. I do appreciate the Justin Rowland quote which is correct —- if you are railing against Pope now, you were never with him. No it doesn’t mean the season has been perfect but Pope has proven a lot this year. He still has about two years to ascend to that level we expect. If people want to jump off then —- fine….but at least let the man work before saying it won’t work.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

You don't tell me who I can and can't attack!

 

[BluestBlood]

I feel like we’ve won at an elite level this year, 3 seed more than likely most wins over quad 1 all with a depleted roster of misfits that I’d hope we e all grown to love.
What about that isn’t COY candidate.
He can’t control these Injuries, with a healthy full squad we may be a 1 seed and top legit 5 team in country.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

All I know is that it's painfully obvious that Pope will have a great career here and it reallly bugs some of the fans that have zero patience, are fickle and rush to whatever the flavor of the week is. Idiots.

 

[TTTblue24]

One thing I hate about this board is having an opinion different from 90+% of the others cause some want to attack personally 🙄. I’m not talking about name calling players etc cause that’s just plain stupid but just cause I feel differently about the team doesn’t mean it’s open season. I questioned our conditioning a couple wks ago and called a troll and other names…..like really?? I’ve been on here a long time and love the cats but just because I ask questions about lineups, conditioning, offensive plays or defensive philosophy does NOT I mean do not support pope. And I’ll continue to question recruiting and portal guys until I see what he can do in both areas, a question we want are curious to see how he does. A lot of people on here need to chill the hell out with taking every comment personal.

 

[BigBlue1992]

Your post was all over the place. I do appreciate the Justin Rowland quote which is correct —- if you are railing against Pope now, you were never with him. No it doesn’t mean the season has been perfect but Pope has proven a lot this year. He still has about two years to ascend to that level we expect. If people want to jump off then —- fine….but at least let the man work before saying it won’t work.

Did you even read the post? And how was it all over the place? By me saying nobody knows how it’s going to turn out so no reason to attack somebody for being on the other side, one way or the other?

 

[EliteBlue]

You don't tell me who I can and can't attack!

Strike First. Strike Hard. No Mercy 🐍

 

[ManitouDan]

I’m all in for Mark .. Coach pope is our guy . He will get better too , hopefully

 

[BigBlue1992]

You don't tell me who I can and can't attack!

Yes you are very tough behind a computer screen.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

Did you even read the post? And how was it all over the place? By me saying nobody knows how it’s going to turn out so no reason to attack somebody for being on the other side, one way or the other?

This is a message board and not just some but many on here are constantly attacking everybody who questions anything.

For those who are acting like this has been a perfect season you are foolish. Tubby Smith’s first season ended in perfection. Unless we go on a run and get to at least the Elite 8 or Final 4, this is far from a perfect season. Those who jump on anybody for saying otherwise, please shut up and let people voice their opinions.

For those who are hollering that Mark Pope isn’t the guy are foolish. He got here late and has dealt with lots of injuries and adversity. Nobody should be saying he’s not the right guy at least not after his first year.

Justin Rowland said something similar to this a week or two ago on Twitter. “If you think Mark Pope isn’t the guy you’re crazy. This is his first year and had done a solid job. If you think Mark Pope is the guy you’re crazy. He’s never won an NCAA tournament game.”

Attack me, I don’t care but deep down this is how it is at this moment.

Well, since you asked I’ll indulge.
In the first line you talked about people attacking others. The second line was you creating a strawman stating that this isn’t a perfect season like Tubby’s. I’ve never seen anyone say that it has been. The third point was you telling people to shut up aka attacking people who disagree with you (the very thing you set out to speak against.) Then, in your next paragraph you correctly pointed out it is too early to level the criticisms at Pope. Then, your next paragraph is a quote from Rowland supporting the prior point. This post was all over the place. If you believe it’s too early to criticize Pope then you shouldn’t be surprised when people are slammed for criticizing Pope. On the other hand, if you think people should criticize Pope your last two paragraphs undermine that entirely.

Do I read your post? Yes. I’d like to have my five minutes back.

 

[catben]

Exactly. This year is a pass but next year (unless we go on a huge run this year) he will have to win at a high rate like you said.

I really like Pope because I am partial to the 90’s era of UK basketball. I want him to do well because he’s not just the current UK coach, he’s one of our own. Coaching at a high level program is demanding though. Villanova just fired Neptune whom everyone seemed to love when he was hired. The bottom line is Coach Pope will have to win at a high rate.

And Coach Pope himself has said as much. He KNOWS what he has to do here and that is WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!

If he fails to do so, he won't be our coach anymore. He has 3 years to get at least an SEC Championship and probably 4 to get to a Final 4. That's because he has a 5 year contract and he won't get an extension without tournament success from next season going forward.

He ACCEPTED that when he got this job.

 

[Emarc]

Exactly. This year is a pass but next year (unless we go on a huge run this year) he will have to win at a high rate like you said.

Or?

 

[BigBlue1992]

Well, since you asked I’ll indulge.
In the first line you talked about people attacking others. The second line was you creating a strawman stating that this isn’t a perfect season like Tubby’s. I’ve never seen anyone say that it has been. The third point was you telling people to shut up aka attacking people who disagree with you (the very thing you set out to speak against.) Then, in your next paragraph you correctly pointed out it is too early to level the criticisms at Pope. Then, your next paragraph is a quote from Rowland supporting the prior point. This post was all over the place. If you believe it’s too early to criticize Pope then you shouldn’t be surprised when people are slammed for criticizing Pope. On the other hand, if you think people should criticize Pope your last two paragraphs undermine that entirely.

Do I read your post? Yes. I’d like to have my five minutes back.

Well I’m not gonna read yours cause I prefer to keep my brain cells but all I’m gonna say to you is if the shoe fits, wear it.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Well, since you asked I’ll indulge.
In the first line you talked about people attacking others. The second line was you creating a strawman stating that this isn’t a perfect season like Tubby’s. I’ve never seen anyone say that it has been. The third point was you telling people to shut up aka attacking people who disagree with you (the very thing you set out to speak against.) Then, in your next paragraph you correctly pointed out it is too early to level the criticisms at Pope. Then, your next paragraph is a quote from Rowland supporting the prior point. This post was all over the place. If you believe it’s too early to criticize Pope then you shouldn’t be surprised when people are slammed for criticizing Pope. On the other hand, if you think people should criticize Pope your last two paragraphs undermine that entirely.

Do I read your post? Yes. I’d like to have my five minutes back.

It's not the words brother.

It's the spirit of the post.

Like it or not we're all on the same ship. When it sinks we all sink. Saying it isn't going to sink when it is going to sink doesn't do any good. Saying it is going to sink when it's isn't going to sink also doesn't do any good. Let's just enjoy the cruise wildcat friends.

 

[BigBlue1992]

Or?

I do think fans will get restless. He will get three years for sure.

 

[EliteBlue]

And Coach Pope himself has said as much. He KNOWS what he has to do here and that is WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!

If he fails to do so, he won't be our coach anymore. He has 3 years to get at least an SEC Championship and probably 4 to get to a Final 4. That's because he has a 5 year contract and he won't get an extension without tournament success from next season going forward.

He ACCEPTED that when he got this job.

Pretty accurate assessment imo. Either need 3 straight E8s going into the contract year or a F4 to get a significant extension

 

[CatFanInIlliniLand]

I feel like we’ve won at an elite level this year, 3 seed more than likely most wins over quad 1 all with a depleted roster of misfits that I’d hope we e all grown to love.
What about that isn’t COY candidate.
He can’t control these Injuries, with a healthy full squad we may be a 1 seed and top legit 5 team in country.

We have definitely overachieved

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Pretty accurate assessment imo. Either need 3 straight E8s going into the contract year or a F4 to get a significant extension

No extension without a national title. This is UK.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

Well I’m not gonna read yours cause I prefer to keep my brain cells but all I’m gonna say to you is if the shoe fits, wear it.

This was kind of the point of my post. ^ Your post was supposed to be about people not being a jerk but you were dismissive yourself in the post. Then, without reading my post, you insulted me. Practice what you preach

 

[BigBlue1992]

This was kind of the point of my post. ^ Your post was supposed to be about people not being a jerk but you were dismissive yourself in the post. Then, without reading my post, you insulted me. Practice what you preach

Everything you post is sarcastic towards anybody who doesn’t agree with you. You said you wanted the five mins back that it took for you to read the post. What do you call that? Talk to people with respect to get it back.

 

[chroix]

This was kind of the point of my post. ^ Your post was supposed to be about people not being a jerk but you were dismissive yourself in the post. Then, without reading my post, you insulted me. Practice what you preach

These come up every year. Everybody wants what they want and see pushback as something to fight against rather than more information to help better inform their viewpoint. My favorites are the ones where they insult the intelligence of people that post on message boards. I’m sure there will be a few of those after the season ends.

 

[BigBlue1992]

These come up every year. Everybody wants what they want and see pushback as something to fight against rather than more information to help better inform their viewpoint. My favorites are the ones where they insult the intelligence of people that post on message boards. I’m sure there will be a few of those after the season ends.

Apparently you didn’t read his post towards me either. I would gather the facts first.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

Everything you post is sarcastic towards anybody who doesn’t agree with you. You said you wanted the five mins back that it took for you to read the post. What do you call that? Talk to people with respect to get it back.

If you read then you understand that I gave that sarcasm back to you. If you want people to get along, be kind yourself instead of telling people to “shut up” in the fifth line. I can get along with anyone who disagrees with me, and very easily so. Practice what you preached in your original post.

 

[permdaddy]

That's my take. I told my father, who loves Pope, it's too early to know whether he's the guy. We don't have a big enough sample size yet to make that determination. He has 2 more years to give us the info we need to make a decision about the future.

 

[BigBlue1992]

If you read then you understand that I gave that sarcasm back to you. If you want people to get along, be kind yourself instead of telling people to “shut up” in the fifth line. I can get along with anyone who disagrees with me, and very easily so. Practice what you preached in your original post.

No, actually you cannot lol. I asked if you had read the post then you said you wanted your five mins back. Then I told you in the reply I wasn’t reading yours so I don’t lose my brain cells. Go back and look.

 

[ChicagoCat1990]

No matter what happens in the tourney, I will still consider this season a success. Pope has proven he can beat the big dogs, structure a cohesive team (you don't luck into being one of the top offensive teams in the country), and I believe he's made UK a very desirable location for top transfers.

Although it didn't look like it last night, the stats show our defense has improved throughout the year. Injuries changed everything; it's not an excuse, but it's the unfortunate reality. I look forward to riding with Pope into the future of UK basketball!

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

No, actually you cannot lol. I asked if you had read the post then you said you wanted your five mins back. Then I told you in the reply I wasn’t reading yours so I don’t lose my brain cells. Go back and look.

Firstly, it was all over the place. That is true and not meant as an attack.

Secondly, you told people to shut up while calling for peace so I took a sharp approach. Perhaps it was over the line on my part. The point is, in my view, if you want peace just call for peace. Do it peacefully. Not gaslighting halfway through and telling people to shut up. Anyhow, I see your intentions are good so I’ll leave it alone. Just so you know I very much like and appreciate some of the posters i significantly disagree with.

 

[WeWant9]

Barring off court stuff (like Billy G) or just sucking (like KP at ul), new coaches need a few years to establish their system and bring in their type of guys. Pope won a ton of big games, he also lost some weird ones. Injuries certainly put a damper on the season.

I do think Pope can build up a great program, but time will tell if that’s just hope or the real deal.

 

[TriCountyCat]

We literally lost to Robert Morris in the first round of the NIT, the first round to Oakland and St Peter’s with fire star talent. Cal was a hall of fame coach and still sucked. I can’t blame this at all on Pope. This is on Cal and how far he let our program fall.

 

[Aike]

No extension without a national title. This is UK.

Come on man

 

[catlogic15]

I’m amused when a comment or opinion is posted that might not be popular or is contrary, the poster is automatically deemed stupid or dumb. I often wonder what those people do for a living that make those comments.

 

[BigBlue1992]

Firstly, it was all over the place. That is true and not meant as an attack.

Secondly, you told people to shut up while calling for peace so I took a sharp approach. Perhaps it was over the line on my part. The point is, in my view, if you want peace just call for peace. Do it peacefully. Not gaslighting halfway through and telling people to shut up. Anyhow, I see your intentions are good so I’ll leave it alone. Just so you know I very much like and appreciate some of the posters i significantly disagree with.

It wasn’t all over the place. You seem to have a knack for seeing things only one way and that being that everything is sunshine and rainbows.

And since my first post didn’t make sense to you, let me simplify it one more time.

It’s been a solid first year. It hasn’t been great and it definitely hasn’t been bad. We’ve beat like 15 ranked teams but we’re gonna end the season with 12 losses. Anybody who says it’s been great and anybody who’s says it’s been bad is lying to themselves.

 

[MonsterMash79]

Strike First. Strike Hard. No Mercy 🐍

Cobra Kai 💪 No Mercy!

And sweep that leg 💪

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

It wasn’t all over the place. You seem to have a knack for seeing things only one way and that being that everything is sunshine and rainbows.

And since my first post didn’t make sense to you, let me simplify it one more time.

It’s been a solid first year. It hasn’t been great and it definitely hasn’t been bad. We’ve beat like 15 ranked teams but we’re gonna end the season with 12 losses. Anybody who says it’s been great and anybody who’s says it’s been bad is lying to themselves.

I’m definitely not sunshine and rainbows by any means. I’m a realist, don’t get too up when we win or too down when we lose. I actually don’t disagree with your statement there tbh, if it had been that clear to begin with I’d have just hit the like and moved on. Have a good day 👍

 

[the nail at the foul line]

WTH is wrong with me? Last night I rooted for Duke and today UT.