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Prep coach confident Hamidou Diallo will return to Kentucky

Didn't take it that way :)

To me, it's the willingness to potentially go even if it means second round plus pure economics

Glad you didn't.

I just haven't seen anything from him, outside of some random source that could or could not know what he/she is talking about, saying he would be willing to go pro as a second round draft pick. Nothing he has done has surprised me to date, which is why I'm probably not too concerned (though him staying in the draft won't overly upset me either).
 
Curious what do you think his focus should have been?

If you sign with Kentucky, prepare for Kentucky. The NBA will be there as we've shown time and time again. If anyone thinks Diallo has put one thought into our program I've got some mountain property to sell in Kansas. He's been about hiding himself and gaining the system in some way.

If he comes back to UK, it should be clear. You only come back if your focus is on UK. Let Cal and the staff do your NBA bidding.

My concern is he comes back and has the wrong mindset. Can't have him scared to play or scared of injury. He's so young, all of this smoke and mirrors might create the wrong image in his mind.

None of this matters because cal doesn't care if they read draft stocks over game prep here, but as a former collegiate player and high school coach, I've seen first hand what happens when a players head isn't where he currently is.
 
If you sign with Kentucky, prepare for Kentucky. The NBA will be there as we've shown time and time again. If anyone thinks Diallo has put one thought into our program I've got some mountain property to sell in Kansas. He's been about hiding himself and gaining the system in some way.

If he comes back to UK, it should be clear. You only come back if your focus is on UK. Let Cal and the staff do your NBA bidding.

My concern is he comes back and has the wrong mindset. Can't have him scared to play or scared of injury. He's so young, all of this smoke and mirrors might create the wrong image in his mind.

None of this matters because cal doesn't care if they read draft stocks over game prep here, but as a former collegiate player and high school coach, I've seen first hand what happens when a players head isn't where he currently is.

So in a nutshell if he has the NBA on his mind at all, you don't want him back? So if you don't care if he comes back, why do you care if he leaves? Oh I'm sorry, it's about focus.
 
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So in a nutshell if he has the NBA on his mind at all, you don't want him back? So if you don't care if he comes back, why do you care if he leaves? Oh I'm sorry, it's about focus.

I want him back and never said the NBA can't be on his mind. That's natural.

But his focus, direct focus, needs to be here or he shouldn't come back, no. The last thing we need is an 18 year old listening to the wrong people about the wrong things. Giving him 30+ minutes a game while he's timid can cause damage. And w know Cal wouldn't bench him even if it was happening.

Son my point is, come back, focus on UK, focus on your game, and let the chips fall like most recruits do. He does that he'd be fine.
 
If you sign with Kentucky, prepare for Kentucky. The NBA will be there as we've shown time and time again. If anyone thinks Diallo has put one thought into our program I've got some mountain property to sell in Kansas. He's been about hiding himself and gaining the system in some way.

If he comes back to UK, it should be clear. You only come back if your focus is on UK. Let Cal and the staff do your NBA bidding.

My concern is he comes back and has the wrong mindset. Can't have him scared to play or scared of injury. He's so young, all of this smoke and mirrors might create the wrong image in his mind.

None of this matters because cal doesn't care if they read draft stocks over game prep here, but as a former collegiate player and high school coach, I've seen first hand what happens when a players head isn't where he currently is.
How much?
 
Its gonna be so nauseating if he does decide to return and all the Calipari worshipers are gonna be like "Never doubt Cal, Always Trust in Cal, Like Cal always says players first, Cal knows what he's doing". You all are gonna think hes an even bigger God than you already do!
Yeah, its going to be terrible to have a great player come back. What a great fan you are. SMH
 
I want him back and never said the NBA can't be on his mind. That's natural.

But his focus, direct focus, needs to be here or he shouldn't come back, no. The last thing we need is an 18 year old listening to the wrong people about the wrong things. Giving him 30+ minutes a game while he's timid can cause damage. And w know Cal wouldn't bench him even if it was happening.

Son my point is, come back, focus on UK, focus on your game, and let the chips fall like most recruits do. He does that he'd be fine.
So, you've got your bases covered. If he doesn't come back, you can say, SEE, I told ya. If he does come back but doesn't live up to your expectations, you can say SEE, he's only concerned with the NBA. Good job.SMH
 
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Its gonna be so nauseating if he does decide to return and all the Calipari worshipers are gonna be like "Never doubt Cal, Always Trust in Cal, Like Cal always says players first, Cal knows what he's doing". You all are gonna think hes an even bigger God than you already do!
You are just horrible. That is all.
 
So, you've got your bases covered. If he doesn't come back, you can say, SEE, I told ya. If he does come back but doesn't live up to your expectations, you can say SEE, he's only concerned with the NBA. Good job.SMH

No that's what you said. I think he comes back. That's just my opinion. He can go higher next year.

If he doesn't come back you don't need an "I told you so". It will be visible for everyone to see that he picked UK over Uconn because he could troll us for the NBA. That's not me saying it, that's Diallo showing it.

My preference is he comes back to UK and focuses on UK. Strange for a UK fan today I know.
 
He also told us essentially what the plan was before Diallo enrolled. So far, it's all playing out according to what everyone involved seemed to agree on, understand, and share with the public.

Doesn't mean a team can't fall in love with his measurables and upside and workout and pay him to grow and develop for a couple years, but I think the plan all along has been to test the waters and come back.

Exactly this! I don't understand what's hard to get about Diallo's situation. He is doing the smart thing by getting feedback and at least playing against and interacting with really good players.
 
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Again, excuse us idiots, nimrods and "morons, not true fans, posers, trolls" ect....for actually wanting a player to actually play games here (when they were eligible to play but chose not to because they wanted to protect their draft stock) before entering the draft.
Totally agree with you.

Not really sure if some of these posters are actually UK fans.
 
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Its gonna be so nauseating if he does decide to return and all the Calipari worshipers are gonna be like "Never doubt Cal, Always Trust in Cal, Like Cal always says players first, Cal knows what he's doing". You all are gonna think hes an even bigger God than you already do!
Yeah, what a bunch of idiots. Everyone knows that a true blue Kentucky fan is supposed to dump on Cal when something turns out poorly and remain silent if something turns out good.

Except championships. After a national championship (not final fours or 30 win seasons), you are allowed one night of celebrating before returning to full-time Cal skepticism.
 
Not bashing you in any way, but what has Diallo done so far that just screams "I want to leave"? If he/Cal believed he would be a one and done no matter what, then Cal would have encouraged Diallo to take part in the pre-draft process just to get feedback for next year. Since he has not hired an agent, what exactly has Diallo done to signal he has no intention on returning?
He hasn't done anything to show that he is 100% leaving. However, in my opinion, he has done and said several things that make me confident he will leave. This isn't new, I've felt this way since shortly after he arrived.

1. His interview statement regarding the NBA before he got to UK saying he "will do whats best for my family".
2. His refusal to play. If you are planning to return the next year, there is no reason to do this.
3. Hami and Cal stating how much his game has improved since he got here.
4. Waiting until the final day to declare for the draft. If this was all just part of the plan, it would seem that the decision would have been made much earlier. Waiting until the last day seems more like getting yourself as close to May 6th as possible so you don't have to deal with the questions as long.
5. This article didn't help. His coach see's his leaving as more likely now than he did 4 months ago. What changed for him?

I'm not gonna bash Hami if he leaves and I'll be happy if he comes back. Nothing more. I just hope we are never in this position again.
 
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I expect him back as well. Not a fan of how this has been handled though. If you commit to UK your focus needs to be on UK. Diallo's focus hasn't been on UK once and he's been here since the middle of last season. That's not a good thing for UK.

You don't like a top 10 recruit enrolling early and being completely transparent with fans? How should it have been handled?

And how on earth do you know what his or any player's focus is? Based on what?
 
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You don't like a top 10 recruit enrolling early and being completely transparent with fans? How should it have been handled?

And how on earth do you know what his or any player's focus is? Based on what?

If Diallo never steps foot on Rupp Arena's floor will you consider him a wildcat? Save the persuasion speech. It's a yes or no answer.

Honestly, for some of you, the conversation is pointless because you will throw away common sense and attempt to justify any situation at all. I'm not going to debate the fact that Diallo's people have misled UK (as far as we know) and might be willing to use our program as a jump skip to the NBA without contributing a single thing.

You will be in the minority if he jumps. We don't need that kind of commitment here.
 
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He also told us essentially what the plan was before Diallo enrolled. So far, it's all playing out according to what everyone involved seemed to agree on, understand, and share with the public.

Doesn't mean a team can't fall in love with his measurables and upside and workout and pay him to grow and develop for a couple years, but I think the plan all along has been to test the waters and come back.
agree
have said this several times, myself. I don't think anyone was "used" or "lied" to - always believed that this is the plan, but even the best of plans can have a wrench thrown in them.
 
If Diallo never steps foot on Rupp Arena's floor will you consider him a wildcat? Save the persuasion speech. It's a yes or no answer.

Honestly, for some of you, the conversation is pointless because you will throw away common sense and attempt to justify any situation at all. I'm not going to debate the fact that Diallo's people have misled UK (as far as we know) and might be willing to use our program as a jump skip to the NBA without contributing a single thing.

You will be in the minority if he jumps. We don't need that kind of commitment here.

So no answer at all to either question then?

Stop discussing it like your feelings are hurt. Consider him a wildcat? Wtf? Why does that matter? Daniel Orton screwed us but played in a bunch of games, so is he a wildcat? It's some arbitrary standard you made up to be mad that he might leave.

So again, how should he have handled this process differently than he has? And how do you know what his focus is or has been? What is Tai Wynyard focused on?
 
If Diallo never steps foot on Rupp Arena's floor will you consider him a wildcat? Save the persuasion speech. It's a yes or no answer.

Honestly, for some of you, the conversation is pointless because you will throw away common sense and attempt to justify any situation at all. I'm not going to debate the fact that Diallo's people have misled UK (as far as we know) and might be willing to use our program as a jump skip to the NBA without contributing a single thing.

You will be in the minority if he jumps. We don't need that kind of commitment here.
No, but that doesn't mean he's

a. a liar
b. morally lacking
 
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So no answer at all to either question then?

Stop discussing it like your feelings are hurt. Consider him a wildcat? Wtf? Why does that matter? Daniel Orton screwed us but played in a bunch of games, so is he a wildcat? It's some arbitrary standard you made up to be mad that he might leave.

So again, how should he have handled this process differently than he has? And how do you know what his focus is or has been? What is Tai Wynyard focused on?
Just playing devils advocate here, but you think it's arbitrary to expect players who can play to play? In the history of UK has there ever been another player who refused on his own and never played? That's hardly arbitrary.
 
So no answer at all to either question then?

Stop discussing it like your feelings are hurt. Consider him a wildcat? Wtf? Why does that matter? Daniel Orton screwed us but played in a bunch of games, so is he a wildcat? It's some arbitrary standard you made up to be mad that he might leave.

So again, how should he have handled this process differently than he has? And how do you know what his focus is or has been? What is Tai Wynyard focused on?

Further more, he has done exactly what he said he was gonna do from the beginning. If the whiners on here don't have a player do exactly what they want then it's "they are only in it for the NBA and I'm a UK fan". People are so soft today
 
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Just playing devils advocate here, but you think it's arbitrary to expect players who can play to play? In the history of UK has there ever been another player who refused on his own and never played? That's hardly arbitrary.

No one cared when Wynyard didn't play, and we needed a physical presence inside when he arrived.
 
Well, his focus certainly hasn't been on UK, that's for damn sure.
Yeah, it's not possible to focus on the team during the season and focus on your future when the seasons over, it's either all or nothing, can't do both.

What other minds can you read Ms Cleo? We've all been wanting to know what's going on inside Bobby Portis' head for years.
 
No one cared when Wynyard didn't play, and we needed a physical presence inside when he arrived.
Not analogous at all. Wynyard was and is a project, who has played. He didn't want to waste a year of eligibility to play a few minutes in a few games.
 
Not analogous at all. Wynyard was and is a project, who has played. He didn't want to waste a year of eligibility to play a few minutes in a few games.

If Diallo's situation is analogous to every player who has ever suited up for UK and played under normal circumstances, it's damn sure analogous to a guy who enrolled mid season just one year ago and also chose not to play.

Which again, gets to the root of the issue. People are mad he's good and might leave. The end. The rest is middle school girls not letting him sit at their lunch table and projecting character traits and personality flaws while knowing nothing about the kid.
 
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If you sign with Kentucky, prepare for Kentucky. The NBA will be there as we've shown time and time again. If anyone thinks Diallo has put one thought into our program I've got some mountain property to sell in Kansas. He's been about hiding himself and gaining the system in some way.

If he comes back to UK, it should be clear. You only come back if your focus is on UK. Let Cal and the staff do your NBA bidding.

My concern is he comes back and has the wrong mindset. Can't have him scared to play or scared of injury. He's so young, all of this smoke and mirrors might create the wrong image in his mind.

None of this matters because cal doesn't care if they read draft stocks over game prep here, but as a former collegiate player and high school coach, I've seen first hand what happens when a players head isn't where he currently is.
Thanks for your input. You seem to know everything.
 
If Diallo's situation is analogous to every player who has ever suited up for UK and played under normal circumstances, it's damn sure analogous to a guy who enrolled mid season just one year ago and also chose not to play.

Which again, gets to the root of the issue. People are mad he's good and might leave. The end. The rest is middle school girls not letting him sit at their lunch table and projecting character traits and personality flaws while knowing nothing about the kid.
I'm not angry at all. I haven't posted anything angry. I still don't like what is likely to happen and I hope Cal comes to his senses. Since you are having trouble with the analogy I'll try it again a bit more bluntly. Wynyard did what was best for him and in the long run, the team. It will be much better to have a 4.5 year Wynyard than a 3.5 year Wynyard.

Hami did what was best for Hami, period. Cal appears to have encouraged it. That is the difference and that is why lots of fans are very annoyed. Even if he comes back, he was still only doing what was best for himself since we'll never see him develop at UK. As I get older I don't spell as well. Can you help me put this "I" in "team"? I can't remember how it fits.
 
I'm not angry at all. I haven't posted anything angry. I still don't like what is likely to happen and I hope Cal comes to his senses. Since you are having trouble with the analogy I'll try it again a bit more bluntly. Wynyard did what was best for him and in the long run, the team. It will be much better to have a 4.5 year Wynyard than a 3.5 year Wynyard.

Hami did what was best for Hami, period. Cal appears to have encouraged it. That is the difference and that is why lots of fans are very annoyed. Even if he comes back, he was still only doing what was best for himself since we'll never see him develop at UK. As I get older I don't spell as well. Can you help me put this "I" in "team"? I can't remember how it fits.

So you think messing with the rotation of a team that was a bad whistle away from a title was best for the team? Playing a player who didn't feel ready was best for the team?

Do you remember how our guys look in November? You wanted to throw Diallo in at crunch time when he's at that stage?

Besides, who are you benching? Hawkins? Willis? Our senior Kentucky boy leaders for a kid who can't shoot? Imagine the "Cal only cares about the lottery picks" posts.
 
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So you think messing with the rotation of a team that was a bad whistle away from a title was best for the team? Playing a player who didn't feel ready was best for the team?

Do you remember how our guys look in November? You wanted to throw Diallo in at crunch time when he's at that stage?

Besides, who are you benching? Hawkins? Willis? Our senior Kentucky boy leaders for a kid who can't shoot? Imagine the "Cal only cares about the lottery picks" posts.
You're making assumptions you can't support, but that isn't the point. It was I before we. There's no need to obfuscate, we all see it.
 
I will root for this kid either way. I'm glad he chose Kentucky even if he never steps on the court. Just because I support Our program, our coach and ANY player that signs here. All this he is using us crap doesn't bother me just for the fact the kids get used too!!!
 
You're making assumptions you can't support, but that isn't the point. It was I before we. There's no need to obfuscate, we all see it.

You mean assumptions like the kid was never focused on UK or that he's played Cal all along or that he was ready to contribute?

Or different assumptions?
 
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as a former collegiate player and high school coach, I've seen first hand what happens.

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