Making excuses for Stoops in full effect. Sickening ….
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Is this KSR? Of course if so. They are Stoops mouth pieces.
Needs to make sure those guys keep spending money in his bar.
Yep .. no urgency , no anger , no accountability.. pretty much awe” shucks , lil Jr tried hard this week . . Truth is we never had the lead this entire game , Stoops acted like we had them on the ropes … actually said “ three plays changed the outcome of the game “ . bs they pushed us around on offense
I’m disappointed we lost as much as the next guy but since when are judged based on weekly results? I’m sorry but if we lose, fire the coach. If we lose, fire Barnhart. If this was the case with all of us, we’d be looking for new jobs each month. Im
Old enough to remember 2-9 seasons were the norm, we were thrilled to have a 3 star recruit. We aren’t gonna compete with Georgia and Alabama and Tennessee year in and year out.
Old enough to remember 2-9 seasons were the norm, we were thrilled to have a 3 star recruit. We aren’t gonna compete with Georgia and Alabama and Tennessee year in and year out.
After UL hands it to us Stoops will be saying “ we are close to having this straightened out “
When should we expect an in year ? Lol did you read what you typed ? Damn !!
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I think it’s a case of we know what headed in a bad direction looks like. We have lots of experience. We are afraid of this thing headed out of control and starting all over again.
Just more finger wagging in UK fans faces who expect more after reaching a level of success with Stoops previously. Only to be told to remember how it always used to be and be grateful for getting to a Bowl Game, winning 8-10 games on occasion.
According to Matt, UK will NEVER win the SEC.
So, WHY should our coach make a salary that is comparable to other team's coaches that DO have a shot at winning one???!!!!
Why should our fans go to the games and cheer our _sses off if we NEVER have a shot at winning at the highest level????
Why should Coach Stoops ask the fans to contribute MORE to NIL if we are NEVER going to win at a higher level?????
Why should our fans pay A LOT of money for tickets, spend the day tailgating and pay for and wear UK gear if the Citrus Bowl is the standard?????( I can remember when Steve Spurrier used to make fun of UT by saying that "You can't spell CITRUS without U-T")
Why should fans listen to KSR or the Postgame show if UK isn't going to EVER win at a higher level???
Coach Stoops has WAAAYYYY MORE support for UK Football than ANY other former coach. He makes WAAAAYYYY MORE than ANY other former coach. The SEC is paying UK WAAAYYYY more money through TV deals than ANY other former coach had access to. So of course he is going to have a MUCH BETTER opportunity to be the MOST successful!!!
There is NO DOUBT that some OTHER coach out there could do the same or even MORE!!!
So, WHY should our coach make a salary that is comparable to other team's coaches that DO have a shot at winning one???!!!!
Why should our fans go to the games and cheer our _sses off if we NEVER have a shot at winning at the highest level????
Why should Coach Stoops ask the fans to contribute MORE to NIL if we are NEVER going to win at a higher level?????
Why should our fans pay A LOT of money for tickets, spend the day tailgating and pay for and wear UK gear if the Citrus Bowl is the standard?????( I can remember when Steve Spurrier used to make fun of UT by saying that "You can't spell CITRUS without U-T")
Why should fans listen to KSR or the Postgame show if UK isn't going to EVER win at a higher level???
Coach Stoops has WAAAYYYY MORE support for UK Football than ANY other former coach. He makes WAAAAYYYY MORE than ANY other former coach. The SEC is paying UK WAAAYYYY more money through TV deals than ANY other former coach had access to. So of course he is going to have a MUCH BETTER opportunity to be the MOST successful!!!
There is NO DOUBT that some OTHER coach out there could do the same or even MORE!!!
Right now we aren't competing with anyone. We're on a 3 game skid.
one of those games was against Georgia and one was against Tennessee. I would say we competed against Tennessee. Yes the defense stunk but overall, we were in the game
My complaint is we are regressing. I'd be perectly fine with 8-4, 9-3. We're not going to be Bama, UGA too offten. UT and UF should be our direct competition most years. Then of course the occasional thumping from Ole Miss or maybe even Miss St when they are good.
We should not be losing to Mizzou. We should not be losing to UT every single time. We shouldn't give 100+ points in three weeks no matter what.
UK isn't historically great but there's too much money being put into the program to perform poorly. Sorry, not sorry.
And yes, I suffered through the early 90s. Guess I'm crazy to expect to be competitive.
We should not be losing to Mizzou. We should not be losing to UT every single time. We shouldn't give 100+ points in three weeks no matter what.
UK isn't historically great but there's too much money being put into the program to perform poorly. Sorry, not sorry.
And yes, I suffered through the early 90s. Guess I'm crazy to expect to be competitive.
I will give credit to clawing back in that game. But we should've won it. That UT team is NOT that good. They have a decent offense. But that's about it. You HAVE to win your home games. Just have too.
I agree with Matt. NIL alone almost guarantees UK won't ever win the SEC again. It will only get worse in the next 3 to 5 years.
I am a titans fan but I still cheer for them despite knowing they may never win a super bowl or when get back there again. Same logic applies to me with any team, including uk football.
Maybe they stop eating the hot dogs so much and make them own up to some tough questions for once. Someone over there has to have some balls.
Did not realize just how many points UK has given up in the last 3 games. 122 combined.
Finally get a good game from Leary and the WR and the defense once again gives up 9000 yards and 100 points. It’s sickening. We can’t even tackle anyone.
I read many posts that seem to infer that because if the increased dollars into the program should ensure more success. You forget that these other schools have increased their spending, some even more, as well. That means you are simply at the same level relative to the others.
True.
We are not out recruiting or outspending most SEC teams.
Most all have good coaches and passionate fanbases.
At the top half SEC programs, losing to UK more than a fluke game every once in a while will get you on the hot seat.
Every fanbase in the SEC with the exception of Vandy would look at the UK game as a game they should win and are pissed when they don't.
Agree to an extent but also disagree wjtb a good bit
1. Beating UGA Tennessee Bama not so easy. But Tennessee has had one amazing tewm in stoops era and he’s 2 wins and 9 losses. Not good
2. He has evened out Florida series which is good….it would help him alot if he’d do the same with Tennessee
3. My biggest negative isn’t fire stoops etc. but Mitch locked into 9M over eight more years….another lifetime contract essentially snd we have come options which isn’t fair to what he’s producing. And heck good ole Mitch got him a fat raise as well
So it looks like a stick in mud scenarios which is not optimal
We sure aren't going to outrecruit many SEC teams playing the boring chicken sh*t style that Stoops keeps marching out there every week. Had we changed up the offense based on what Leary ran at NC State sooner, we likely would be 7-1 and feeling like we still have a shot at the SEC Title or Playoffs.
Fans are getting tired of being the slowest team in FBS and I'm sure the recruits are noticing it as well. This is 2023. Players don't want to play like it's 1980 something. They want to get lots of opportunities to pass, catch, and run. Stoops needs to get with the times or move on. Saban did because he can adapt. I'm not sure Stoops can or wants to.
We wouldn't have a shot at the sec title at 7 and 1. Uga isn't losing 2 games.
You people also just focusing on the offense are killing me. The defense is giving up 33 points per game in sec play.
I see this here often but don't get it. People don't understand that Mizzou is a very good team this year. They're a late LSU TD away from being undefeated. Losing wasn't the problem. The problem was quitting when things went against us
Hate to break it to people, but expect more of the same vs ut. Their offense vs our defense is a massively bad matchup for us. We're slow on calls, play complex zones that require presnap communication, and love to play packages. UT takes all that away. This is probably going to be their weakest offense yet, playing a style they don't want to play, and they still beat us vs our strength. They actually play like a stoops team, that everyone used to bitch about.
By the very same token, we're a bad matchup for Florida which is crazy to think about.
So pick your poison. And if you made the move it needs to be for someone better. Who's that? I don't see any such candidates that we could actually get
Rich Brooks beat high ranked teams, even NC LSU, when he had no facilities and there was no NIL. Stoops has hit his peak.
Who knows what could happen if we won out? Georgia lost their tightend already. What if their QB went down with an injury? Regardless at 11-1, we would have a shot at the playoffs. Whomever Georgia beats in the SEC Title Game could get jumped by us. None of this can happen now of course.
I've mentioned that the defense hasn't been good. It is what it is at this point. It evened out though with UT's defense sucking as well. Neither did well at stopping the other team so it came down to the offenses. Ours of course had a horrible 1st quarter and at least 3 game changing errors that could have helped win the game for us.
I haven’t listened to mj for years but i agree with him on this. you can’t win at a high level if you can’t recruit with the upper part of the sec. i also agree with all of the questions you ask.
As "bad" as this UT offense is compared to Heupel's offense last season, statically it's still better than any season Stoops has had. So no, I'm not really following you there.
This team sorely lacks leadership. Nobody steps up when needed. We have good players but they rarely play well as a team. No speed on defense, they look overmatched physically when comparing their size to other SEC schools. The schedule is what it is but this team just doesn’t have what it takes to compete in the SEC.
We have lost to Mizzou, S Carolina and Vandy AT HOME the last two years. The bottom feeders of the SECE have improved while we are regressing. Stoops can't just beat up on a weak SECE or down UL anymore. He might actually have to outcoach someone besides Sunbelt Billy.
It’s always one thing or another recently with stoops, one unit plays great the other plays like crap. Leary looked as good as he possibly can and our Defense couldn’t stop them at all. That 3rd and 7 from Milton to ice the game was about as pathetic as it gets. I don’t see what the future is for stoops here, the SEC gets tougher next year and a lot of teams are improving while uk is going in opposite directions. The only thing that would even make the season a little better would be beating scar and UL, it wouldn’t make it a good year but beating both of there coaches would be great. I think Kentucky beats uofl, they are good but not great, Kentucky can beat them
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If that's what you took from my post, no wonder you don't follow.
Huepel wants an up tempo passing attack. The same thing all the "ditch Mitch and rich" posters clamored for and pointed to him as an example. This year he pivots to a rushing attack that is great at getting 4-6 yards every snap. That's the exact same attack the same "ditch rich" posters bitched about all that time. Now they bitch because it worked against us.
I didn't say UT had a bad offense. I said it was their weakest and it is. That's why it's bad news for us they were able to still rack up yards with relative ease.
Vandy yes. The other two no. Mizzou is a very good squad. South Carolina last year was with a very green backup QB.
The implosion vs Mizzou was the bad part of that loss. The L itself in a vacuum wasn't awful
Mizzou does NOT have better talent than we do. They are just better coached. Dorkwitz went out and hired a very good OC to go with an already good DC.
And I don't give a pass for last year's loss to S Carolina just because we had to play a green backup QB. Other teams bring in their backup and don't miss a beat. It's a stupid philosophy of Stoops to never give live reps to the backup so he doesn't get a pass for that.
And losing to Vandy, especially at home, is uncalled for no matter what!
Rushing or passing, Heupel's offense is still nowhere near anything Stoops has ever run. The basis of Heupel's offense is tempo and no huddle, to keep the defense on their heels. We are literally the slowest tempo team in the nation.
Speaking of post game chatter, anyone notice a few certain posters that think they are the smartest people on the forum and big sunshine pumpers are awol today?
1) I didn't say they had better talent. Said they were a way better team than some posters here give them credit for.
Also you might want to double check the talent remark. St Louis is chock full of talent. Iirc they are one of only two teams in the east with two 5* committed. They have at least one 5* in lb3 (that we shut down). How many do we have?
2) by the sc remark, I can tell you are a very recent fan. Beating them at all used to be out of reach. Then we started closing the gap. Then dominating. The only times they beat us the last several years were two times we played backup QBs (the other loss the backup literally couldn't throw the ball due to the injury).
I agree we should've won both the games. However we are nowhere near the caliber of program above losing to those two programs. They are going to beat us on occasion. That's just the nature of the beast.
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