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The Silence From Barnhart Is Deafening, And Stoops Deserves No Comment, At Best!

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If Barnhart even wants to keep Stoops, after that post-U of L meltdown last season with aTm, Barnhart had to feel he was being screwed by Stoops. Making Stoops a 9 million dollar a year man and putting his own neck on the line, then seeing Stoops playing footsie with aTm . . . bet there ain’t no Barnhart gift under the Stoops Christmas tree (unless a 36 million dollar buyout counts).
 
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This could be a scenario where Barnhart doesn’t see a need to comment at all simply because he’s that unaware of the general pulse of this fanbase at the moment. While I haven’t spoken with a single person that actually wants Stoops back (and this board looks much the same), does the athletic department truly hear this type of feedback at this point?
 
Mitch needs to go also Cal would have never left if he had not felt the pressure from fans and Ark big money man sweet talked him to come to Ark, I can remember Cal said before he left he was going to redo Ky team for the next year, Stoops and Mitch and Cal was all close and winning is not that important.
 
Uhhh, Barnhart would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know: there are national stories and posts. SEC Shorts has pounded us with “you renewed his contract.” Stoops just pitched his second worse season in 12 years.

Yeah, Barnhart knows the mood.

Agreed he would have to be deaf, blind and dumb. However… we must keep in mind this is Mitch Barnhart. Calipari was 100% here until the end of time without the friendly Arkansas bailout. He even got on TV and yucked it up with Cal like they were best friends for life to give his formal “vote of confidence”. He’s shown tone-deaf tendencies.
 
Uhhh, Barnhart would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not know: there are national stories and posts. SEC Shorts has pounded us with “you renewed his contract.” Stoops just pitched his second worse season in 12 years.

Yeah, Barnhart knows the mood.
Yeah, but other than a 2012 type exodus of $$$ not flowing into the university trough to keep all the other sports teams not bball afloat, what is his motivation? He’s got bball now which will pacify a large percentage of fans so football will be just fine.
 
I think he feels like he did what he needed to do on that pre game a couple of weeks ago. He’s not Mr. Want to Communicate with people
 
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If Barnhart even wants to keep Stoops, after that post-U of L meltdown last season with aTm, Barnhart had to feel he was being screwed by Stoops. Making Stoops a 9 million dollar a year man and putting his own neck on the line, then seeing Stoops playing footsie with aTm . . . bet there ain’t no Barnhart gift under the Stoops Christmas tree (unless a 36 million dollar buyout counts).

You think Stoops didn't have permission to talk to A&M? Lol! If he didn't, then Barnhart could've fired him for cause.

The melt down is here on these boards.

The silence is only deafening when the CATS WIN games. Outside of 20% of the fans, no one says anything when the football team wins. It's just the way it is here. Predominantly negative. Hasn't changed in 30 years and most likely won't ever at thos point.

Barnhart doesn't need to say anything until there's something to say. We have a coach. I'm sure we have a short lost of coaches we'd pursue in case Stoops were to take another job.

You don't pursue anyone while you have a coach you're planning on keeping, or can't afford to fire. Even with this clusterfk of a season, there's nothing to say right now. Can't just be reactionary and irrational when you have an AD position.
 
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Mitch needs to go also Cal would have never left if he had not felt the pressure from fans and Ark big money man sweet talked him to come to Ark, I can remember Cal said before he left he was going to redo Ky team for the next year, Stoops and Mitch and Cal was all close and winning is not that important.

LOL!!

Stoops and Cal WERE NOT close!! Stating that they were is pretty tone-deaf on its own. I appreciate your advanced usage of sarcasm!
 
This could be a scenario where Barnhart doesn’t see a need to comment at all simply because he’s that unaware of the general pulse of this fanbase at the moment. While I haven’t spoken with a single person that actually wants Stoops back (and this board looks much the same), does the athletic department truly hear this type of feedback at this point?
They do but they don't care.
 
This could be a scenario where Barnhart doesn’t see a need to comment at all simply because he’s that unaware of the general pulse of this fanbase at the moment. While I haven’t spoken with a single person that actually wants Stoops back (and this board looks much the same), does the athletic department truly hear this type of feedback at this point?
Barnhart can't wait until only basketball is being played. He will run and hide behind our basketball success. Thatis where his and UK's executives put their heart in, certainly not our football program.
 
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Barnhart can't wait until only basketball is being played. He will run and hide behind our basketball success. Thatis where his and UK's executives put their heart in, certainly not our football program.
He’s been AD for almost 25 years with 1 title. He’s not exactly performing on pace there.
 
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Barnhart has multiple national titles at UK. Cal and Stoops are not even close to the same. Stoops has big time donors behind him, Cal had pissed them all off. Barnhart is not someone who puts stuff out for everyone to hear. He knows what is going on, and will demand some changes in the football staff, since firing Stoops would require getting money from Stoop friends to pay out the buyout. I don't get everyone wanting the AD fired when 1 coach underperforms. There are 23 different teams at UK. More them half are ranked. How many other ADs have over half their teams ranked? I would bet not many.
 
Barnhart is attached at the hip to Stoops from this point forward. So why in the world would he say anything right now because he knows that by saying anything it will bring light to that HORRIBLE buyout clause!!!!

Mitch knows how the fan base feels, he just can't fix it. So he will dodge and elude any and all of the heat coming this off-season.

He is HELPLESS at this point. Which means our football program and fans are STUCK in this mess for now and years to come.

SAD
 
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I get the anger at Stoops, but what is MB supposed to say at this point? He’s barely had time to meet with Stoops, if he’s met with him at all yet.

I am ready for a younger, hungry AD that is going to embrace the new world of college sports, but not publicly commenting about a coach who was coaching on the sidelines about 31 hours ago isn’t something I’m going to roast the guy over.
 
I get the anger at Stoops, but what is MB supposed to say at this point?
Agreed. What do you want him to say? Mitch wasn't going to fire Stoops, and we obviously don't want to spook recruits with vague, dispersive comments from the AD about the future of the coach right before Signing Day.
 
Barnhart has multiple national titles at UK. Cal and Stoops are not even close to the same. Stoops has big time donors behind him, Cal had pissed them all off. Barnhart is not someone who puts stuff out for everyone to hear. He knows what is going on, and will demand some changes in the football staff, since firing Stoops would require getting money from Stoop friends to pay out the buyout. I don't get everyone wanting the AD fired when 1 coach underperforms. There are 23 different teams at UK. More them half are ranked. How many other ADs have over half their teams ranked? I would bet not many.
Football moves the needle--if for any reason economically
 
That is a subject for another thread.

If my AD has given me 9 million, is tolerant of 7-5 seasons, the legality of the communication is not relevant: Stoops apparent desire to flip to A & M is the issue.

THAT should have infuriated Barnhart, and I bet it did.

Nope. It's a business, and believe it or not, Mitch loves football more than basketball as a sport. Just talked to a buddy that talked to him quite a bit for about 10 years. Mitch and his family get together to play a family football game every year because they love football. Winning in football means a LOT to the UK AD.

Why the fk would Barnhart be "infuriated"? Lol

People here have done nothing but btch and moan about Stoops for 95% of 12 years. They had a down year last year and everyone was (again) calling for him to be fired. If you're the AD, wouldn't you be just fine with it if you could have the btchfest temporarily subside for a year? If he left for A&M and we could've hired Sumrall, WTF would people have to btch about?

Yall need to make up your minds and stick to your decisions. (Not that the LOD UK fans have been able to do that the last 20+ years.)

The LOD btch that he needs to leave, but get PSSED if he talks to other programs about their openings.

The LOD btch if he gets an extension, but freak out if he's on someone's short list of candidates.

THE LOD goes apesht if he reaches contract incentive goals, saying he's paid too much, but then flip their lids when he doesn't reach those goals that he needs to be fired.

We're recruiting better than we ever have over a 5 year stretch much less 10, and not just in the state of KY, yet the LOD want to throw that all away to take a chance on someone that's not coach been a head coach at a power 5 level, much less at a P5 also ran U with a small recruiting base. SIMPLY BECAUSE HE PLAYED AT UK, AND because they somehow think he won't leave for an Auburn, LSU, or FSU if he has some success here. He's from Alabama.

It's delusional, but not surprising.

Here's a real life example for you-
5 UK "fans" were talking about the upcoming football season one year. They all said we'd suck and swore they knew what they were talking about. They were being loud about it at a local restaurant. Couldn't name more than 5 players on the team. One of the guys at their table told them they were FOS and didn't know what they were talking about. He bet one of them a dinner at Tony's in Lexington that they'd win 9 or 10 games. Both of them told him to FkOff, that he was too drunk too early in the day.

So he told them BOTH he'd take them to Tony's if the Cats didn't win 9 games. Told them they'd win AT Florida. They agreed to the bet and just laid into him the rest of their lunch break.

When the Cats reached 9 wins that season, I went back to lunch to see what they'd all say now. Fckin cheap ask mthrfkrs wouldn't look him in the eye, and ignored him or drowned him out every time he spoke. Finally someone else at their table mentioned that the Cats had won 9 games, and the two "fans" told him to FO, that they wouldn't honor the bet.

THAT is THE LOD of UK football. They actually prefer to btch rather than to celebrate. Prefer to talk sht about their team, rather than support it. First loss the sorry mthrs are "at least there's UK basketball" just like they were suburban exwives complaining about their ex's new girlfriend while they're waiting for some prince to come sweep them off their swollen feet and Bachelorette loving, hemorrhoidal cheeks. They welch on bets, and double down when they're shown their arguments are contradictory and false.

.........
Phrasing matters.

The AD isn't GIVING SHT to anyone. There's a fkn contract that stipulates what he is REQUIRED TO PAY someone for reaching certain benchmarks that were mutually agreed to in writing.

"THAT should have infuriated Barnhart, and I bet it did."

LmAO! That's the biggest fkn joke you've ever told on here, and you usually have a good sense of humor. Absolutely hilarious

If it pissed Barnhart off, and as insinuated if not insisted here, he didn't allow Stoops to talk to A&M in the first place, he could fire him at any point after that for breach of contract and walk away without a buyout being paid. You think he wouldn't have fired Stoops and hired Sumrall by now, if he had that breach of contract in his pocket and he was "furious" about it?

Tell me another story. This first one was entertaining
 
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Mitch needs to go also Cal would have never left if he had not felt the pressure from fans and Ark big money man sweet talked him to come to Ark, I can remember Cal said before he left he was going to redo Ky team for the next year, Stoops and Mitch and Cal was all close and winning is not that important.
Cal didn't leave bc of fans..you guys give yourself too much credit. He left because the admin hated him and werent letting him be on an island anymore and the boosters were sick of him and everyone in his corner, Peavy, etc had already left.
 
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Meh.

Why does Barnhart have to tell us what we know already? Stoops is going no where. I would not fire him. This year sucked, for sure. But, Stoops will get another year to right the ship. And, he arguably deserves it after going to numerous bowls and giving UK two 10 win seasons over the past 7 years. He has fallen under 7 wins 3 times in the past 10 years (one 5 win season was the Covid year). He was always going to get another year, absent a scandal.
 
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Meh.

Why does Barnhart have to tell us what we know already? Stoops is going no where. I would not fire him. This year sucked, for sure. But, Stoops will get another year to right the ship. And, he arguably deserves it after going to numerous bowls and giving UK two 10 win seasons over the past 7 years. He has fallen under 7 wins 3 times in the past 10 years (one 5 win season was the Covid year). He was always going to get another year, absent a scandal.
Scandal ? We did have a year of wins taken away from us.
 
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Barnhart has multiple national titles at UK. Cal and Stoops are not even close to the same. Stoops has big time donors behind him, Cal had pissed them all off. Barnhart is not someone who puts stuff out for everyone to hear. He knows what is going on, and will demand some changes in the football staff, since firing Stoops would require getting money from Stoop friends to pay out the buyout. I don't get everyone wanting the AD fired when 1 coach underperforms. There are 23 different teams at UK. More them half are ranked. How many other ADs have over half their teams ranked? I would bet not many.
Football brings in more money than the other 22 teams combined. Nobody really gives a shit if the rifle team is good.
 
Nope. It's a business, and believe it or not, Mitch loves football more than basketball as a sport. Just talked to a buddy that talked to him quite a bit for about 10 years. Mitch and his family get together to play a family football game every year because they love football. Winning in football means a LOT to the UK AD.

Why the fk would Barnhart be "infuriated"? Lol

People here have done nothing but btch and moan about Stoops for 95% of 12 years. They had a down year last year and everyone was (again) calling for him to be fired. If you're the AD, wouldn't you be just fine with it if you could have the btchfest temporarily subside for a year? If he left for A&M and we could've hired Sumrall, WTF would people have to btch about?

Yall need to make up your minds and stick to your decisions. (Not that the LOD UK fans have been able to do that the last 20+ years.)

The LOD btch that he needs to leave, but get PSSED if he talks to other programs about their openings.

The LOD btch if he gets an extension, but freak out if he's on someone's short list of candidates.

THE LOD goes apesht if he reaches contract incentive goals, saying he's paid too much, but then flip their lids when he doesn't reach those goals that he needs to be fired.

We're recruiting better than we ever have over a 5 year stretch much less 10, and not just in the state of KY, yet the LOD want to throw that all away to take a chance on someone that's not coach been a head coach at a power 5 level, much less at a P5 also ran U with a small recruiting base. SIMPLY BECAUSE HE PLAYED AT UK, AND because they somehow think he won't leave for an Auburn, LSU, or FSU if he has some success here. He's from Alabama.

It's delusional, but not surprising.

Here's a real life example for you-
5 UK "fans" were talking about the upcoming football season one year. They all said we'd suck and swore they knew what they were talking about. They were being loud about it at a local restaurant. Couldn't name more than 5 players on the team. One of the guys at their table told them they were FOS and didn't know what they were talking about. He bet one of them a dinner at Tony's in Lexington that they'd win 9 or 10 games. Both of them told him to FkOff, that he was too drunk too early in the day.

So he told them BOTH he'd take them to Tony's if the Cats didn't win 9 games. Told them they'd win AT Florida. They agreed to the bet and just laid into him the rest of their lunch break.

When the Cats reached 9 wins that season, I went back to lunch to see what they'd all say now. Fckin cheap ask mthrfkrs wouldn't look him in the eye, and ignored him or drowned him out every time he spoke. Finally someone else at their table mentioned that the Cats had won 9 games, and the two "fans" told him to FO, that they wouldn't honor the bet.

THAT is THE LOD of UK football. They actually prefer to btch rather than to celebrate. Prefer to talk sht about their team, rather than support it. First loss the sorry mthrs are "at least there's UK basketball" just like they were suburban exwives complaining about their ex's new girlfriend while they're waiting for some prince to come sweep them off their swollen feet and Bachelorette loving, hemorrhoidal cheeks. They welch on bets, and double down when they're shown their arguments are contradictory and false.

.........
Phrasing matters.

The AD isn't GIVING SHT to anyone. There's a fkn contract that stipulates what he is REQUIRED TO PAY someone for reaching certain benchmarks that were mutually agreed to in writing.

"THAT should have infuriated Barnhart, and I bet it did."

LmAO! That's the biggest fkn joke you've ever told on here, and you usually have a good sense of humor. Absolutely hilarious

If it pissed Barnhart off, and as insinuated if not insisted here, he didn't allow Stoops to talk to A&M in the first place, he could fire him at any point after that for breach of contract and walk away without a buyout being paid. You think he wouldn't have fired Stoops and hired Sumrall by now, if he had that breach of contract in his pocket and he was "furious" about it?

Tell me another story. This first one was entertaining
Thanks Bob. I enjoyed watching your teams at Oklahoma.
 
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