Absolutely right re ranking but people don't want to hear that, doesn't fit their agenda. Difference in maybe 6th in the conference and 12th is minimal, maybe as little as one player.
Possible loss of Marrow to Southern Miss.?
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Marrow would do about as well as a HC as Kenny Payne did, IMO. You're exactly right. He's the cool grandpa/uncle type that kids gravitate to, but I think he could be lax on discipline.
The only " agenda" some of us have is seeing Kentucky be competitive in the SEC. Those of us who have been watching UK football since the 1960s would like to see us compete at least once with the upper echelon of the league
You say it can't be done. I say that is a self fulfilling prophecy.
A lot of you folks weren't here during the end of the Joker era arguing with PEPSIMAN99 about how we would be doomed if we let a recruiter like Joker walk.
We can, and will, have better years ahead after Stoops. Thank you for your time and efforts, but we have to move on.
We can, and will, have better years ahead after Stoops. Thank you for your time and efforts, but we have to move on.
We played UGA for the SEC East title a few years ago. The point isn’t that we can never compete, it’s that we aren’t going to ever consistently recruit like UGA or Bama. Given that fact, we are actually recruiting in the vicinity of our reasonable ceiling. Can we do better? Marginally, sure. Does the recruiting acumen of Stoops and Marrow mean they shouldn’t be gone at the end of the season? No.
I’m all about moving on from Stoops, it just drives me nuts that we as fans have to start denigrating the legitimate success he’s had here to somehow justify wanting him gone. He’s the best coach 95% of fans have ever had. We’re recruiting about as good as we likely ever will. He’s also gotten complacent and clearly doesn’t have the edge anymore and it’s hurting the program. Those points can both be true at the same time
I have heard marrow is always looking for any way to make more money. Maybe he is using the bad times for leverage to get more $$ out of uk.
We are 4-6 and probably will miss a bowl game. Did you expect a parade for Stoops lol.
Btw I don't hate Stoops. I don't even know him personally to hate him. I appreciate what he has done for UK for most of his coaching term here. But it's definitely time for a change. Pretty solid recruiter especially for UK standards and seems like a good blue collar guy...but he can't coach a good offense to save his life.
I think k UK is deeper, but the only one I can say would
I dont think Vandy is more talented than UK except QB, who is just a player and plays better than he probably should. UK is more talented overall, but weren't that day. I think OM is more talented than UK, with a coach several schools would like, but they weren't better than UK that day. Upsets happen every week.
Grumpyolddawg, I love you man, BUT, losing 2/3 to Vandy, 3 straight to S. Carolina, 10/12 to UT, 12 in a row to Georgia, getting blasted by a bad Florida team, that is not what you call an "upset".
That is a bad trend.
If this was Georgia, Georgia fans would be at Kirby's door with the torches. You guys ran off a coach who AVERAGED 10 wins per year. If losing games like that are not good enough for Georgia, it should not be acceptable to UK fans who want better for our football program.
This "upset" narrative is a pathetic excuse for losing games we shouldn't be losing 12 years into CMS tenure.
I wouldn't be happy for sure with those results. But if that happens we would be stuck, 134m buyout would be hard to come up with. Richt wasn't fired so much for the wins. I posted the details here one day, sure people wanted to win a championship, but being in the hunt kept most happy. It was his unwillingness to make changes more than losses. And when he made one he made sure it was a bad one.
I sort of disagree. We don’t know what the TEs can really do because they just aren’t part of the game plan.
Now replace Mark Richt name with Mark Stoops in your post and you will get exactly where most Cat fans are right now.
Even when CMS makes a change, it turns out to be for the worst.
They never are. I bet we have more penalties than catches by the TE room this year.
Probably the biggest news out of this is that KSR actually credited someone else for their reporting.
Who should we beat in SEC recruiting. Bama, Auburn, Tennessee, A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, LSU, USC, Florida, Georgia are probably always recruiting better than us. That puts us at 12th automatically. USC has a good in state base.
Big Dog leaving is actually a good omen. I don't think Stoops sticks around without his recruiting crutch.
Southern Miss is horrible, I guess he can go there for his retirement. But I could see him being offered by Ohio State as a Chief Recruiter Position. Sends him home with a chance for a championship.
It's a tough situation to be in. Not everyone wanted change, and quite a few were anti Kirby. Richt did some good things at UGA, But when illness struck his family, winning football games just wasn't a priority for him, can't say I wouldn't be the same way, but I was never a P5 head coach either. If UK needs/wants a change by all means they should make one. But because of demographics and location it won't be easy for a new coach to climb the ladder without bigNIL which UK may have.
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