POLITICAL THREAD

[FirewithFire]

Hegseth just dropped a hammer on Ukraine. I guess Z didn't want to spill the beans on his buddy Biden.

Trump's defence secretary delivers bombshell blow to Ukraine

Pete Hegseth said that Washington will 'no longer tolerate an imbalanced relationship' with its allies, adding that 'Europe must provide the overwhelming share of aid to Ukraine

www.dailymail.co.uk

NO NATO membership, NO return to pre-2014 borders and NO more relying on US for military funding

 

[trueblujr2]

At this point I'm starting to think I'm the only person in America who wasn't getting checks from USAID.

Nah, there's at least two of us. I've yet to see mine.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Hegseth just dropped a hammer on Ukraine. I guess Z didn't want to spill the beans on his buddy Biden.

Trump's defence secretary delivers bombshell blow to Ukraine

Pete Hegseth said that Washington will 'no longer tolerate an imbalanced relationship' with its allies, adding that 'Europe must provide the overwhelming share of aid to Ukraine

www.dailymail.co.uk

NO NATO membership, NO return to pre-2014 borders and NO more relying on US for military funding

What concessions do you think Russia makes?

 

[JumperJack]

What concessions do you think Russia makes?

Do they have to?

We just want it over. Europe can arm Ukraine to the teeth when it’s over, using European money.

 

[cole854]

What concessions do you think Russia makes?

Admit they cheated in the '72 Gold Medal game.

 

[HeismaNole]

 

[Girthang]

Someone posted on here about having symptoms of long covid... Hope you're feeling better, but if not there is a study with a HUGE sample size that demonstrated positive effects against several conditions among those who use nicotine products. (Does NOT recommend smoking lol)

Heard about a study they're doing or have done on nicotine use/users as a possible immune boosting treatment (patches?) for people with long covid, parkinsons, and other ailments like myocarditis. Was going to share that on other thread and just remembered it. Not conclusive, and I'm still reading it all, but correlative at least so far that these conditions are all down percentage wise vs all other categories in terms of some of these issues among people that use nicotine products.

One report related to it stated some individual cases saw improvement related to carditis, long covid, and parkinsons symptoms, but it can be contraindicated with current pharmaceutical treatments for those issues. Something we should all look into more maybe

 

[bigbluedon]

Not to mention those illegals that are driving without licenses and insurance, and not even trying to make things right when they're in an accident with an insured motorist. How much have everyone's premiums gone up because of that?

How about the fires and crimes? Has that affected insurance and first responders, stretching them thin? It's too hard to make leftists think about all of the ways this has hurt the middle class and blue collar workers alike. How do you explain the math much less macro and micro economics to the GED, DEI, primary ed, or Social Work graduates?

Great points, especially about the auto wrecks.

 

[sambowieshin]

@sambowieshin lololololol lolololol lololololol

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The broader message of that article is that the data has been skewed for many years not just under Biden. It was not an article slamming Biden, it was an article slamming data collection methods.... The same ones Trump and everyone else has used.

 

[Girthang]

Cleveland Cliffs is one of the largest suppliers of steel to the US auto industry including foreign companies with American plants. Their domestically produced steel will not be subject to tariffs. Cliffs will probably increase prices if demand shoots up but I doubt it would be anywhere near 25%.

As a side note: I would expect US auto prices to go up due to the the wage/benefit increases in labor agreements that were reached recently.

I don't expect them to go up more than 3%. Foreign manufacturers aren't going to pull their products from the market. Doubt they'll raise prices. If US automakers want to capitalize, they need to keep their prices down.

 

[bigbluedon]

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Hi pot. Good gracious God. Soros is straight from the devil.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Do they have to?

We just want it over. Europe can arm Ukraine to the teeth when it’s over, using European money.

I get your point, but if this ends and Russia gets the land they’ve conquered without any serious consequences, what stops china from doing the same? Or are we entering a new period of conquest?

Admit they cheated in the '72 Gold Medal game.

Wayne county legend, Kenny Davis would probably approve this.

 

[sambowieshin]

Who else was going to come into office and do this Sam? Harris? Never was going to happened. Thank you President Trump.

Harris was a weak sauce candidate for sure. Trump just ain't my cup of tea.
His methods are just too transparent for anyone that knows history and the operating methods of tyrants.
Some people like tyrants. Some don't.

 

[Catman100]

Harris was a weak sauce candidate for sure. Trump just ain't my cup of tea.
His methods are just too transparent for anyone that knows history and the operating methods of tyrants.
Some people like tyrants. Some don't.

More and constant TDS!!!

 

[crawfords corner]

 

[sambowieshin]

I find it absolutely hilarious that these folks STILL don’t understand that their lunacy is driving the average person away from the Democrat party. I can’t imagine being someone who isn’t into politics and coming across these loons and thinking “yea, that’s who I want to associate with”.

Yeah... No nutty Pubs anywhere to be seen. 🤣🤣🤣

 

[LordEggForgotHisPassword]

What concessions do you think Russia makes?

Maybe not to kill everyone.

Do you realize we promised that we would never pull NATO into eastern Europe in order to facilitate the reunification of Germany? Seems like a promise kept to me. Why do we need to be there anyway? Outside of being the world police and practicing in a proxy war? What is Americas tax payer interest in Ukraine (I'm willing to listen, sincerely) that wouldn't apply to anywhere on earth. If Europe wants to defend Ukraine from Russia, let them do it.

As a side note, and related, i am curious to whatever became of the hints (early on) that Ukraine held bioresearch labs and our concern Russia would gain control of those and a) have our research and b) tell on everyone doing it.

 

[sambowieshin]

More and constant TDS!!!

KDS!!!

 

[Bill - Shy Cat]

Karoline Leavitt wore out three sets of kneecaps this afternoon kicking liberal press in the ass.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Harris was a weak sauce candidate for sure. Trump just ain't my cup of tea.
His methods are just too transparent for anyone that knows history and the operating methods of tyrants.
Some people like tyrants. Some don't.

I like results positive for US taxpayers.

 

[sambowieshin]

I like results positive for US taxpayers.

Is Musk auditing himself too?
Crickets on that.

As Musk works to slash federal spending, his own firms have received billions in government contracts

As Elon Musk has led an effort to slash government spending, his own companies have, over the last few years, received billions of dollars in government contracts.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Maybe not to kill everyone.

Do you realize we promised that we would never pull NATO into eastern Europe in order to facilitate the reunification of Germany? Seems like a promise kept to me. Why do we need to be there anyway? Outside of being the world police and practicing in a proxy war? What is Americas tax payer interest in Ukraine (I'm willing to listen, sincerely) that wouldn't apply to anywhere on earth. If Europe wants to defend Ukraine from Russia, let them do it.

As a side note, and related, i am curious to whatever became of the hints (early on) that Ukraine held bioresearch labs and our concern Russia would gain control of those and a) have our research and b) tell on everyone doing it.

We did, but once the iron curtain fell democracies started to sprout in the Balkans and Russia Satellites. These democracies want to join and strengthen the alliance and that only makes the pact stronger. Also, Russia promised to never invade Ukraine and they broke that promise first. Just my personal sentiment, but a little tax money now can turn into a big trade partner in the future, see Japan and South Korea as evidence of this.

If these biolabs are real, I'm hoping that all that comes out in the open and people are held accountable. If they are not real, I hope that some people slow down on the conspiracy theories they peddle.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Is Musk auditing himself too?
Crickets on that.

As Musk works to slash federal spending, his own firms have received billions in government contracts

As Elon Musk has led an effort to slash government spending, his own companies have, over the last few years, received billions of dollars in government contracts.

abcnews.go.com

Was money obtained fraudulent? Looks like a lot of the money was awarded under Biden.

 

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[LordEggForgotHisPassword]

i respect the reply, i disagree on the makes alliance stronger. its more people to defend that do not contribute to their own defense. please see current nato for reference.

 

[sefus12]

We did, but once the iron curtain fell democracies started to sprout in the Balkans and Russia Satellites. These democracies want to join and strengthen the alliance and that only makes the pact stronger. Also, Russia promised to never invade Ukraine and they broke that promise first. Just my personal sentiment, but a little tax money now can turn into a big trade partner in the future, see Japan and South Korea as evidence of this.

If these biolabs are real, I'm hoping that all that comes out in the open and people are held accountable. If they are not real, I hope that some people slow down on the conspiracy theories they peddle.

Ukraine is an absurdly corrupt country that has gotten magnitudes more tax dollars than they ever should have. They don’t deserve a dime of our tax dollars, and certainly not until they help us account for every penny they’ve gotten and clear out any corruption found in the process. IF all that happens, then we can discuss financially helping them. But not a second before.

 

[sambowieshin]

Was money obtained fraudulent? Looks like a lot of the money was awarded under Biden.

Who knows? Musk can get his crew on it. Hell will freeze over before that happens and you know it.

 

[gamecockcat]

I've been saying this exact same thing for 3+ years re: abortion and state murder laws.

Why do we treat murdering a pregnant woman differently from abortion?

On October 31, 2024, 28-year-old BreAnna L. Johnson of Wentzville, Missouri, was murdered by her live-in boyfriend, 40-year-old Darryl K. Tyson, Jr. On December 18, 2024, the county grand jury indicted Mr. Tyson with three counts of first-degree murd...

www.americanthinker.com

It makes zero sense that abortion and murder don't define a life at the exact same point, wherever the state decides to define it (within reason, of course). How can it be murder if the fetus(es) is 12 weeks old in a murder situation and let the mother have an additional X number of weeks before the exact same fetus is defined as a life with regards to abortion? I wish Congress would pass that law: state abortion definitions of life and murder definitions have to be the same and leave it at that.

 

[augustaky1]

Nah, there's at least two of us. I've yet to see mine.

Add me to the list. I am still checking my mailbox.

I keeping opening those damn Spectrum envelopes, hoping that is where they hid my USAID check.

 

[Blackish_Mamba]

Who knows? Musk can get his crew on it. Hell will freeze over before that happens and you know it.

I decided to read that non-credible source. Since YOU only post leftist USAID paid propaganda.

Lol, 🤦‍♂️. So the guy got money from Biden to comply with Biden’s electric car industry. And he got money for space initiatives. The guy who puts together one of the biggest if not the biggest electric car companies in the world to promote the democrats obsession over climate change and the guy who has built the greatest space program in history and can do it the the cheapest is your focus.

SMH

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

Mitch voted against Tulsi? He's the very definition of the type of loser that has no business up there.

 

[sambowieshin]

I decided to read that non-credible source. Since YOU only post leftist USAID paid propaganda.

Lol, 🤦‍♂️. So the guy got money from Biden to comply with Biden’s electric car industry. And he got money for space initiatives. The guy who puts together one of the biggest if not the biggest electric car companies in the world to promote the democrats obsession over climate change and the guy who has built the greatest space program in history and can do it the the cheapest is your focus.

SMH

So do you believe his company should get billions in climate change fighting incentives from the government or not??
Does that end now?

DOGE for thee and not me.

 

[sefus12]

Mitche voted against Tulsi? He's the very definition of the type of loser that has no business up there.

He’s terrified of what will be found once these folks start combing through things (assuming they are allowed to, of course).

I fully expect he will vote against Patel as well.

 

[sambowieshin]

I like results positive for US taxpayers.

Do you like higher inflation too?? Thought that was Biden's fault.
Make America Inflated Again
Prices up 3 percent from last year!!! 🤬

Cost of groceries, gas goes up as US inflation worsens

The consumer price index increased 3% in January from a year ago

www.voanews.com

 

[JumperJack]

I get your point, but if this ends and Russia gets the land they’ve conquered without any serious consequences, what stops china from doing the same?

The history of the world is nothing but conquests. Before us, and after us.

Where was it written that the American taxpayer must perpetually ensure world peace, especially for countries that we don’t have military alliances with?

Besides, we have already made much greater assurances to Taiwan than were ever made to Ukraine.

 

[HeismaNole]

Did the GOP really propose a $4 trillion debt limit increase?

Burn this entire government to the ground.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Ukraine is an absurdly corrupt country that has gotten magnitudes more tax dollars than they ever should have. They don’t deserve a dime of our tax dollars, and certainly not until they help us account for every penny they’ve gotten and clear out any corruption found in the process. IF all that happens, then we can discuss financially helping them. But not a second before.

Historically, yes. I think the revolution they had in 2011? and the Pro-Western stance they have taken ever since should be considered, though. Have Ukraine as a future ally would be a huge benefit to us and would further weaken Moscow.

 

[Blackish_Mamba]

So do you believe his company should get billions in climate change fighting incentives from the government or not??
Does that end now?

DOGE for thee and not me.

No, you fool. Because climate change isn’t real. BUT Elon Musk believes in climate change just like you and your fellow democrats. So are you arguing that Elon, who believes in climate change just like you, should not get the money?

You’d think you’d be happy with Elon helping out with the democrats golden calf of climate change. But wait. This isn’t about climate change, this is about you throwing a hissy fit because your ilk are getting nailed for fraud.

 

[Marleydogg]

Not crying.... Just calling out fascism.

Judge finds Trump administration defying order to release funding to Del., states

Delaware’s attorney general says the agency helping to protect children from lead paint is unable to access federal dollars.

whyy.org

So not giving money for lead paint removal is somehow fascism? 🤔

 

[cole854]

Do you like higher inflation too?? Thought that was Biden's fault.
Make America Inflated Again
Prices up 3 percent from last year!!! 🤬

You do understand that this is a continuation of failed polices from the last quarter of 24, right? If not, then please list Trump's policies that were a direct cause of this increase.

Here's a tip for you....

"Some of January's bad inflation print was due to one-off factors, like egg prices surging as avian flu swept across the nation's agriculture industry, or the month's cold snap and stiffer sanctions on Russia raising fuel oil prices," said Bill Adams, chief economist for Comerica Bank. "But other inflationary pressures look like businesses resetting prices higher at the turn of the year to pass on increased expenses they felt in 2024."