There is nothing that says legal status is conveyed upon birth. That's a statement you keep spouting but there is nothing in the laws that back that up.
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False. There are a lot of lazy corrupt people out there like yourself who lack character and hate this country that are making this close. People who are lazy as hell and want everything given to them so, Dumbala and the left tell you what you want to hear, and you guys are dumb enough to believe it.
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realclearpolling has trump up in the battleground states by 1/2 point or more. Which means probably 3-4 point lead for the bad orange man who happens to be worse than hitler and wants to be a dictator for one day and end democracy as we know it? Did i miss any??? Oh, hates women and discriminates against blacks, steals money from the poor (which doesn't make any cents, but whatever). Others?
Once again, not true.
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law that recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]
Unborn Victims of Violence Act - Wikipedia
The party bullying and taking rights away from women, trans and immigrants is the same one always whining about their victimhood. How ironic.
Politicians are so pathetic. These people cannot relate to normal people at all.
It will all boil down to PA. Right now, trump is up, barely. However, this day in 2020 was Biden +7 (trump was up 8 points when the counting stopped and lost by 1 ... interesting.) and in 2016 was Hitlary +9 (trump won by 1).
so, if trump overperforms by 6-8 points for a 3rd time, then this thing is WAY over and that is why Kamalahoe and Tampon Tim are so desperate.
so, if trump overperforms by 6-8 points for a 3rd time, then this thing is WAY over and that is why Kamalahoe and Tampon Tim are so desperate.
They keep trying to dehumanize the fetus by saying it is not human. I have challenged them in the past to show me where that fetus can be manipulated or changed to be anything other than human. They never answer that challenge. Why? Because there is nothing that can be introduced anytime during the pregnancy that would change that human fetus into anything else. It would only kill it.
TrumPutin Commie Party.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
No wonder Trump won't back Ukraine. 🤬
Trump had as many as 7 private calls with Putin since leaving office, Bob Woodward writes in new book
Bob Woodward writes in his new book “War” that Donald Trump has had as many as seven private phone calls with Vladimir Putin since leaving office and that he secretly sent the Russian president COVID-19 test machines in 2020.www.pbs.org
Not even bothering reading that shit link. We've been through 8 years of you treasonous f**ks manufacturing hoaxes to tie President Trump to Russia, Russia, Russia. A whole cast of top demo☭rats should be serving prison sentences or more appropriately facing a firing squad by now. GFY.
Back on point: Your party has bought and paid for millions of illegals, given them benefits, and strategically located them in swing states, and now are pushing to make them legal. You think most of them WOULDN'T VOTE DEMO☭RAT? The party that provides the handouts? Idiot.
Hell, demo☭rats actually don't GAF about citizenship for voting. 14 states (demoshit) and DC don't require an ID to vote. CA passed a bill to make it illegal to ask for f**king ID when voting. Registrations are are joke too. It's insane. Election integrity needs fixed, but your party won't do shit to help that get passed.
Your "responsible" demo☭rat party is anti-American trash and they will be the downfall of our country. That's your legacy if they win this time.
So let me get this straight ... he is saying it is "responsible" to let ANYONE vote in an election?!?! Oh good grief...
OK, but Trump is committed to not touching SS or Medicare. So how is he going to even dent that?
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Yes it does. A pregnant woman was murdered there before the law. Her murderer could only be charged with one murder, even if prosecutors wanted more. Why? If fetuses were already people you wouldn't need the law and could double charge them without it.
No, hate crimes are a classification that ups the severity. If you commit a crime against someone you will be charged for that crime. If hate was the motive the penalty can then be upped. You could always charge them with the original crime though, without the hate crime law. Unlike fetuses which require a special law to even be a crime. See the difference?
True. Your post that is. That is exactly how they would frame it.
Trump recently met with Netanyahu. Something wrong with that? If so, you're the first to say so.
You can't reason with him. He just uncontrollably posts unrelated shit links. His brain is fried on TDS.
If Trump wins he'll need a padded cell. I plan to visit him and slip a personalized Trump photo under his cell door and watch his brain explode through the little observation window. Save taxpayer money.
Drove thru there today. Why do people live there? Because it is freaking beautiful, duh. It was beautiful today. Talked to a resident who said there hasn't been terrible damage like the projection in ~100 years. 1. They're due. 2. this doesn't happen daily.
I would think "Mr. Progressive" himself of all people would understand that we make new laws all the time to correct flaws in the system. Afterall, at one point in time we had laws that didn't recognize slaves as people. Were slaves not people before we changed the law? So sure, one could argue that at one point in time, fetuses were not recognized as people. But laws were put in place to change that. And they have. Just because you have some weird view of the intent of the law doesn't change the fact that there is more legal precedent for fetuses being "persons" than there isn't. The only claim you had was Roe V Wade and that has, as I said before, been rightfully overturned and no longer holds any ground for legal precedent.
That's how it is in every single law. Otherwise specific carveouts wouldn't even be necessary. Can a pregnant woman drive in the carpool lane? Can she claim her fetuses as a dependent? Can she do a single thing in America that requires two people?
How do you have time to respond during election denial and US Capitol attack season?? The irony is that TrumPutin is everything you accuse me of being.
You’re clearly right, but don’t get him going on that again.
I've said over and over you're free to make those laws according to your personal moral code. But until you do fetuses are not people.
Wonder if Cnn, Biden, and Kamala will call out 60 minutes for misinformation?CBS under fire for editing out Kamala Harris 'word salad' on Israel
CBS News appears to have edited the 60 Minutes interview with Kamala Harris to show the Democratic 2024 hopeful in a more positive light.www.dailymail.co.uk
Ah, I see you aren't capable of having a logical discussion either and can only respond with BS fear mongering.
The single biggest threat to this country, as it has been for over 150yrs, is the Democrat party. The name says it all. This is not a democracy, and never has been for a very specific reason.
This country is and always has been a Republic, again, for a many specific reasons. To speak of eliminating the electoral college is to speak against the foundation of this country, and EVERYTHING that has been done to try to unite this collection of states together.
The plain truth is that the D party cannot win without changing the rules or cheating outright. They don't want to compete on a level playing field and won't, so we need to make the rules iron clad and enforce them.
Oh, I'll find some way to work in some time.
I apparently don't need to. Your brain is so fried on TDS you can't stay focused enough to argue anything anymore. Loser.
Again, why does this law exist? It wouldn't be necessary if they were already people, right? They would already be covered. They aren't charging them with an additional crime.Once again, not true.
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law that recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[1]
Unborn Victims of Violence Act - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
He’s a POS that is constantly declaring the end of the world to sell subscriptions to his newsletter and then he tries to sell you higher priced research.
Come on VHcat, you are better than using circular arguments. We've already gone over that being able to be claimed as a dependent has no bearing on if someone is a person. Are you smart enough to even know why carpool lanes exist? That fact that you are using that in this argument suggests that you don't, which means you are dumber than I thought. The reason an unborn child doesn't count in carpool lanes is because an officer cannot visibly establish the occupancy of a vehicle before making the traffic stop. It doesn't validate your position that an unborn child isn't a person. You really let your arguments get more and more ridiculous as you lose.
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