POLITICAL THREAD

[Caveman Catfan]

First... lol. I mean, how can anyone with reason and logic try to argue this? It's like we're two different species or speaking two completely different languages.

Second, if you sincerely believe this is true, then it's not a huge leap of logic for it then to follow that it was God's will that for JFK and Martin Luther King, Jr. that the assassin's shots were pure and true?

On second thought, don't worry about responding. Genuinely not worth it. This board is frustratingly entertaining though.

I think you know the answer to your first question and why you cannot see this is possible.

The poster believes in a God that interacts with His creation. Something I gather you do not. Within that context, his post is not illogical. Not hard to understand.

Your second conclusion is actually illogical. To say that God intervened, He must always intervene is not logical.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

It’s incredible. I’m assuming people on this board that say God kept Trump alive likely went to church all their life. And they think God actually put his hands on Trump like he’s our savior? It’s insane. If God chooses Trump to be our savior, then we have way bigger problems and you have to question Gods judgment.

Weird comment and not one someone who has read the Bible would make, even if they don’t believe the Bible.

 

[bcw1029]

So let me get this straight. Cheatle said the roof of the building where the sniper was located was too dangerous for agents because it’s sloped. Yet, the building where the SS agents were located in close proximity to Trump had a far more sloped roof? Make it make sense?

Talked to an ex Secret Service agent of mine- at a minimum the sniper’s building should have had its line of sight blocked. And to blame local law enforcement is pretty pathetic. Resign!

 

[Dionysus444]

Where did matter come from? Anti matter, even though noone can prove its existence and cant create it; so it's basically make believe. Where did anti matter come from?

Thats the part that gets me about atheists. Don't want to believe in god? Ok no problem. However dont act like believing in god is stupid when you believe in the exact same thing just call it something different.

Ant matter and god are literally the exact same concept just called something different.

LOL I love when idiots talk about things they don't know anything about. Antimatter is regularly produced every day at CERN. "The first antihydrogen was produced in 1955 by a team led by Walter Oelert." "Antihydrogen was first produced by ATHENA in 2002, then followed by ARTRAP in 2004, at a typical rate of 100 antihydrogens a second." "In June 2011 they trapped 309 antihydrogen atoms, up to 3 simultaneously, for up to 1,000 seconds."

So does this prove atheism for you just like if we had experimentally observed God? Or you just moving the goalposts again?

 

[JumperJack]

LOL I love when idiots talk about things they don't know anything about. Antimatter is regularly produced every day at CERN. "The first antihydrogen was produced in 1955 by a team led by Walter Oelert." "Antihydrogen was first produced b ATHENA in 2002, then followed by ARTRAP in 2004, at a typical rate of 100 antihydrogens a second." "In June 2011 they trapped 309 antihydrogen atoms, up to 3 simultaneously, for up to 1,000 seconds."

So does this prove atheism for you just like if we had experimentally observed God? Or you just moving the goalposts again?

“Regularly produced”

 

[Dionysus444]

“Regularly produced”

Space is a big physics lab...

 

[JumperJack]

 

[JumperJack]

Space is a big physics lab...

Hard to call others an idiot while you dance around the obvious problem, isn’t it?

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Where did God come from then?

What? Again? If you paint a painting, are you confined by the properties of the painting? (To avoid confusion, the correct answer is “no”)

Even non-believers should know that the properties of this world, including time, matter, and space, did not exist at some point (point - just using our limited language as well as I can), according to scripture and the current predominant scientific theory. Asking where anything outside of creation “came from” is inane, because we are bound by all of creation’s properties cannot imagine what being unbound would be like.

 

[JumperJack]

 

[Dionysus444]

Hard to call others an idiot while you dance around the obvious problem, isn’t it?

There is no obvious problem.

 

[AshWilliams]

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You guys should read the whole thing. It's LOOOOOONG. But it encapsulates the entire incident.

 

[JumperJack]

What? Again? If you paint a painting, are you confined by the properties of the painting? (To avoid confusion, the correct answer is “no”)

Even non-believers should know that the properties of this world, including time, matter, and space, did not exist at some point (point - just using our limited language as well as I can), according to scripture and the current predominant scientific theory. Asking where anything outside of creation “came from” is inane, because we are bound by all of creation’s properties cannot imagine what being unbound would be like.

That last sentence sounds eerily like Kamala.

 

[Dionysus444]

because we are bound by all of creation’s properties cannot imagine what being unbound would be like.

False. What would constrain our imagination in that way? I can imagine plenty of things that aren't real. Dragons, unicorns, you having a brain. Imagination is not constrained by reality.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

Don't watch CNN. Don't like CNN. Sames goes for Chris Wallace (for obvious reasons going back to the debate).
But at the 8 minute mark....I have to say I agree with him.

 

[JumperJack]

There is no obvious problem.

Unless there is a field of science which holds that matter can either spring into existence from nothing, or is eternal, there definitely is.

 

[Bill - Shy Cat]

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Everyone should click on JumperJack’s link and read in entirety.

Just an excerpt below:

Then they denied him security. The kept the rooftop open. They watched the shooter and did nothing. They kept Trump on that stage. And they didn’t do a damn thing until after he had been shot in the head.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Thats my concern. If trump was younger i wouldn't care because he fits trumps personality and is exactly what he wants. Trump is 78 and spent most of that life going 100mph. He might be in better shape than bjden but its a coin toss if he'll make it 4 years.

So this vp pick really needed to be someone who could either deliver a battleground state or run the country (preferably both but not sure that person exists).

Also agree vance wont be the man 4 years from now. There are some very talented people coming up in the gop for a change. Plus that talent is finally also a group that wont back down. Who knows though.

Vance appears to be very smart, a solid communicator, and Trumpian in personality. Trump has single-handedly changed the GOP. He picked a 39 year-old who, along with some others, seems to represent the future of the GOP, as Trump would have it. Saying Vance won’t be the nominee in three years is a total crap shoot comment. Given the events of this past weekend, the fact that things change quickly and unexpectedly should still be apparent. Guessing what happens in three weeks is hard enough. 3-4 years? Anyone’s guess.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

I'm not ready to go to conspiracy yet but I also won't argue against it. Absolutely agree with this guy that Mayorkis is the devil on earth. I wouldn't put it past him after the embarassment of being impeached.

 

[JumperJack]

Given the events of this past weekend, the fact that things change quickly and unexpectedly should still be apparent. Guessing what happens in three weeks is hard enough. 3-4 years? Anyone’s guess.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

It's all complete BS. You don't "investigate the shooter" first. You get Trump OFF the stage and THEN go from there. I just am having a hard time believing they are that incompetetent when it happened just days after both Biden and Majorkis are thorougly embarrassed, publicly.

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

America first... get lost.

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Yuval is a ****ing scumbag. **** the WEF

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

We just need 100 million dead first
-Lenin

 

[TheFrontRunner]

Someone said this was Trump's new security team

 

[JumperJack]

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Did not take the libs long..

Usha Vance's connections to Supreme Court Justices raises …​

These are the comments of dipshits. There is a judge in Kentucky who worked for a conservative appellate court judge and for Justice Ginsburg. Smart people clerk for Justices. The fact that she was a clerk means jack shit should this come to the court for some weird reason. Newsweek is a rag for even promoting this inane thought. 🤦‍♂️

 

[TheFrontRunner]

That will solve Chicago's problems...

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

 

[Caveman Catfan]

They are no less prone to harebrained conspiracy theories than anyone else...

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Damn. I would not want these people driving, let alone voting.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

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No.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

haha...wonder if they are going to give her one of those green and white tents they gave all the pro-Hamas campus protestors?

One protester.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Trump hasn't even reached out. Par for the course, though, he only cares about himself.

So the GoFund me was fake news? Where do you get your news?

 

[vhcat70]

I'd like to know how Kentucky has voted red in every presidential election since 2000 but votes for a Democrat as governor. So Lexington and Louisville can out number the state for governor but not president?

It's not really all that red. When the school choice constitutional amendment goes down in Nov. it will be quite clear.

 

[Bill Derington]

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I actually thought it was handled well by both of them.

 

[vhcat70]

DEI hire costs a man his life and damn near got President Trump killed. And she’s still getting paid a fat salary with a fat pension to be dangerously awful at her job.

Yay DEI.

Vance should be shouting down this Jill Biden hire the entire campaign.

 

[JumperJack]

 

[vhcat70]

Look at the voter turnout for president versus governor. Huge difference.

Which to me says KY voters DGAS about the state, just some distant Fed Government. It's really sick.

 

[vhcat70]

Yeah which is so stupid because we are more affected at a state level than federal. After 2020, you’d think people would see all that a governor could do🤦‍♂️

You get it. I get it. But many DA KY voters don't get what they are doing to themselves & their families. Call them deplorables.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

False. What would constrain our imagination in that way? I can imagine plenty of things that aren't real. Dragons, unicorns, you having a brain. Imagination is not constrained by reality.

What would constrain our imagination? Complete and utter lack of context, maybe? You can make anything up. But, we are talking about being outside of the restriction of time, for example. You may see the sun rise and set, have a watch, remember when you were younger, etc., but why don’t you explain with your imagination what it would be like to exist outside of time?

Having any ability to know whether you were right or wrong is impossible. Now remove all matte and all space. 🤦‍♂️

 

[vhcat70]

Louisville, Lexington and Paducah vs the state.

Plus the governor can win with 800K votes but Trump will have over 3M in votes.

It’s just different.

You're nuts. KY barely gets 2M votes for president total & Trump got 1.4M last time.