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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
@sammysdad05 checking in again @rqarnold what about you?
First, the claim in 2016 was that there was Russian interference in the form of a misinformation campaign to influence voters. Never was it suggested that they hacked or physically changed votes. The Mueller Report clearly found that the Russian interference did happen. It was also alleged that this was done with the knowledge/support of the Trump campaign, that could not be proven.

Regardless, HRC conceded the race on election night and Obama immediately shared information with Trump.

So what is you problem?
 
It also turns into a boy who cried wolf situation as well. Let's be real when you start calling Tucker of all people a fraud and sellout, a lot of people are really going to start to tune you out. So when there are actual examples of the deep state and crap, no one is going to listen.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying Tucker is beyond question either. I don't think anyone is beyond question. But man calling him a sellout and fraud over asking for evidence? That's pretty weak in my opinion. Especially because that exact same thing is why so many on the right praise Tucker. He cuts through all the BS and brings people on, one on one and tries to get to the middle of it. You can't praise him for only doing it to one side, then bash him when he does it to the other side.

I'm a fan of Trump. I thought he had a really good 4 years. The only thing that prevents me from saying great was the spending. I also think there was major issues with this election. But for week after week your lawyers claim they have evidence of major fraud. Be prepared to ask to show that evidence. I can't complain when someone asks to see it.
I agree. Thing is, his legal team isn’t going to show any of this evidence to any media outlet. I mean, that would be reckless to do that. They’re going to present their evidence in an actual, unbiased court. That’s exactly what they should do.
 
I havent seen any time stamp graphs of FL, TX, CA, etc. Everyone is just focusing on WI and MI because it fits their narrative


Wrong. The focus is on the swing states who all stopped counting at once, then all restarted again in the wee hours of the night, and all suddenly found tens of thousands of votes for only one presidential candidate.

The focus is on these states too because of the massive amounts of one candidate only vote and the amount that had only biden and any Dem in a contested election. Any Dem comfortably ahead or behind was not on these ballots located in the middle of the night.
 
I agree. Thing is, his legal team isn’t going to show any of this evidence to any media outlet. I mean, that would be reckless to do that. They’re going to present their evidence in an actual, unbiased court. That’s exactly what they should do.
Absolutely. Getting a bit tired of people on our side, on this board and on radio/TV harping about seeing the evidence. This is 90% a legal battle and 10% spin. No poker player starts the game by throwing their hand down for all to see.
 
It also turns into a boy who cried wolf situation as well. Let's be real when you start calling Tucker of all people a fraud and sellout, a lot of people are really going to start to tune you out. So when there are actual examples of the deep state and crap, no one is going to listen.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying Tucker is beyond question either. I don't think anyone is beyond question. But man calling him a sellout and fraud over asking for evidence? That's pretty weak in my opinion. Especially because that exact same thing is why so many on the right praise Tucker. He cuts through all the BS and brings people on, one on one and tries to get to the middle of it. You can't praise him for only doing it to one side, then bash him when he does it to the other side.

I'm a fan of Trump. I thought he had a really good 4 years. The only thing that prevents me from saying great was the spending. I also think there was major issues with this election. But for week after week your lawyers claim they have evidence of major fraud. Be prepared to ask to show that evidence. I can't complain when someone asks to see it.

I thought Tucker was well within reason.
 
We are a nation of laws and if you make an accusation then you have to follow it up with tangible evidence. Conspiracy theories don’t wor.

What Trump’s team says in public and what they say in court are two different things because they risk perjury in court.
Jesus. You keep making the exact same stupid mistake over and over again. The lawyers are NOT TESTIFYING and are not risking perjury. No wonder everybody blocks you. Moron.
 
First, the claim in 2016 was that there was Russian interference in the form of a misinformation campaign to influence voters. Never was it suggested that they hacked or physically changed votes. The Mueller Report clearly found that the Russian interference did happen. It was also alleged that this was done with the knowledge/support of the Trump campaign, that could not be proven.

Regardless, HRC conceded the race on election night and Obama immediately shared information with Trump.

So what is you problem?
REALLY? Your statement is FASCINATING! Did Obama tell Trump that Flynn was under investigation? Did he tell Trump that HE himself was under investigation? Did he share the dossier and the wiretaps with Trump? Idiot.
 
Absolutely. Getting a bit tired of people on our side, on this board and on radio/TV harping about seeing the evidence. This is 90% a legal battle and 10% spin. No poker player starts the game by throwing their hand down for all to see.
Well I respectfully disagree. When you have to allege an immediate irreparable harm, i.e.,, you are alleging they're about to certify an illegal election, you damn well better show everything you have to the judge immediately or you'll get tossed out of court.
 
I don't know anyone who blindly follows Trump.. certainly not the the way a lot of the Left would walk through fire for Obama.

Again, none of us really like Trump, but he was necessary if you think politics needed a shake up. So it's different to follow his endeavors and let him roll, than it is think Michelle Obama would make a good president because your head was that far up Obama's ass.
Speak for yourself, I like Trump plenty.
 
I havent seen any time stamp graphs of FL, TX, CA, etc. Everyone is just focusing on WI and MI because it fits their narrative. They also ignore the Trump vote dump for MI that was 85% for him right after the polls closed. If you look at the NYT excel sheet of their vote updates you can find at least a dozen times where Trump got 85% or more of a vote dump. of course NYT isn't an official voting board so i don't know why everyone is freaking out over their data.

11/4/2020 3:098746066713192032873628636220.2

In that Dump trump gets 3600 and biden gets 6. muster be some massive trump voter fraud.
11/4/2020 3:4011398929027612371314555-11246672.4

Trump gets 4500 and biden gets -112. Thats some crazy math there.
11/4/2020 4:3513918751106884284991603624357933.9

Trump gets 6000 biden gets 243.
11/4/2020 4:43142409111371862869055611-20058113.4

Trump gets 5600 biden gets -200. more crazy math
11/4/2020 5:57173754514577162798296276-707698310.1

trump gets 6200 biden gets -700. real crazy math

So it looks like Biden cheated in big spurts and trump cheated in slow drips.
What these idiots don’t seem to grasp is that “the media” aren’t the score keepers. They could throw out random numbers if they chose to do so. Only the states have the official counts. If states wanted, they could not report any numbers until the entire vote was counted.

ALSO, the official state tallies are not online while the vote is occurring. Periodic hard copy reports are pulled and those numbers are made available to media outlets. Numbers are transferred often by hand between these various platforms which opens itself to typos and other human errors. The reasons numbers may jump around during the count are numerous.
 
So, I asked earlier, if a state election law states that the official vote has to be certified by certain rules, like certified ballot signatures, and they don’t abide by that and then it is proven that they certified ballots that didn’t have certified registered signatures, what happens then?

For 3 years we have heard the media claim Russian collusion in the 2016 election and now all of a sudden there is no way the election could be compromised. People don’t have any rational ability to think that that doesn’t make sense.
 
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What these idiots don’t seem to grasp is that “the media” aren’t the score keepers. They could throw out random numbers if they chose to do so. Only the states have the official counts. If states wanted, they could not report any numbers until the entire vote was counted.

ALSO, the official state tallies are not online while the vote is occurring. Periodic hard copy reports are pulled and those numbers are made available to media outlets. Numbers are transferred often by hand between these various platforms which opens itself to typos and other human errors. The reasons numbers may jump around during the count are numerous.
this is EXACTLY RIGHT. What if every state got their initial count very badly wrong? The media would not report the correct winner. Since the counting is not done yet the media should not be calling Biden prez elect.
 
I love libs saying there is no proof. There is absolutely proof. Proof and evidence are not necessarily the same thing, although admittedly I used them interchangeably. There absolutely is strong circumstantial evidence here.

Imagine flipping a coin in front of observers 4 million times. It splits heads/tails 50/50. Then all the observers leave. When they arrive the next day, they're told while they were gone the coin was flipped 146,000 times and it landed heads every single time.

Who would believe that? That's what we're told happened, in four states, simultaneously.

The audacity of the left to even attempt to peddle this as legitimate is staggering. That's why you know they have their based covered and recounts won't matter. Registrations must be examined or the servers located.
 

These are the videos that DO worry me though, I have to admit. This could be staged, it could be a set up, she could be completely wrong in dozens of different ways. We see these videos daily, but nothing ever comes from them.. and I think there's a reason. What, Susan is the only one aware of ballot shredding?

I appreciate "boots on the ground" reporting, but it should always be looked at with skepticism first. And I do agree with the left here, that this stuff CAN be dangerous, to just blindly believe.
 
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Absolutely. Getting a bit tired of people on our side, on this board and on radio/TV harping about seeing the evidence. This is 90% a legal battle and 10% spin. No poker player starts the game by throwing their hand down for all to see.
To be fair though, this was not the thought process during Russiagate. When Schiff and all the other people were claiming they had evidence, everyone here was saying if they have the evidence why don't they show it.

Again people praised Tucker for having guys like Schiff and Swalwell on and pushing them to show evidence that they claimed to have.

People on here constantly laughed at the left on here for saying something along the lines of, "they will show all the evidence when they release the Mueller report".

I also can't blame someone like Tucker for not just going, "welp Trump's lawyer says they have the evidence, they won't show the evidence, but that's good enough for me. I'm going on my show to report on this."

That would be unbelievably stupid to do. That's exactly what CNN, MSNBC and all of them did with Russiagate. Well Schiff and Swalwell say they saw the evidence, that's good enough for me to claim it to be true.
 
You're not naive, how many did they "cure", and whats the percentage that are normally rejected?
Right. That’s a good point, the rejected percentage. It was astronomically lower this election cycle than in previous ones. Of course, the mail in ballots were much more prevalent in 2020 than ever before.

So, the mail in ballots increased dramatically, yet the rejected numbers decreased dramatically?! Doesn’t add up. Just another example in a long line of examples of anomalies and irregularities in this election. Again, common sense is all that’s really needed.
 
I also love this "No evidence" crap. This isn't black and white. There can be discrepancies that lead to investigations that lead to evidence, and we're seeing.. what 100's of them from accredited media and political figure? There doesn't need to be "actual" evidence at this time. That comes later.

If I'm sleeping with some ones wife, and we both walk into the same hotel room, there's no evidence that I boned her.. but isn't that a discrepancy? Isn't that worth investigating? Because if that's the way it works... where I can walk out of that hotel while adjusting my dingdong, and walk away saying "sorry, no evidence!".. well then I got some old GFs to call..

You can't run around and say "There's no evidence!" and then try and stop any and all investigations, and ban/block anyone who shares anything that might jeopardize Biden's victory.
Who is trying to stop investigations?

I have no problem if Trump or his team want to continue the investigation. The clock is ticking and there will be a transition of power come Jan 20 if you are unable to produce that damning evidence.
If you want a remedy enacted by the courts you have to provide tangible evidence and have that evidence pass the muster of cross-examination. You have to present your evidence to the defense as subjects of discovery. If you can’t, you can’t introduce it to the court.
Just because your wife and her suspected lover walk into a hotel at the same time isn’t proof they are having an affair. They may even get on an elevator together...but if she gets off on the 3rd floor and he gets off at the 5th and never do the two meet...you got nothing.
 
So, I asked earlier, if a state election law states that the official vote has to be certified by certain rules, like certified ballot signatures, and they don’t abide by that and then it is proven that they certified ballots that didn’t have certified registered signatures, what happens then?

For 3 years we have heard the media claim Russian collusion in the 2016 election and now all of a sudden there is no way the election could be compromised. People don’t have any rational ability to think that that doesn’t make sense.
You have to prove the rules weren’t followed.
 
Who is trying to stop investigations?

I have no problem if Trump or his team want to continue the investigation. The clock is ticking and there will be a transition of power come Jan 20 if you are unable to produce that damning evidence.
If you want a remedy enacted by the courts you have to provide tangible evidence and have that evidence pass the muster of cross-examination. You have to present your evidence to the defense as subjects of discovery. If you can’t, you can’t introduce it to the court.
Just because your wife and her suspected lover walk into a hotel at the same time isn’t proof they are having an affair. They may even get on an elevator together...but if she gets off on the 3rd floor and he gets off at the 5th and never do the two meet...you got nothing.
They will present their evidence. By the time they do present it, there will be so much evidence that it’ll be overwhelming and hard for many to comprehend. IMO, the fraud in this particular election was that bad.
 
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