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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
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Why do you all throw out the dictator word? You are just cheapening the true meaning of a dictator. If Trump was a dictator or was exhibiting dictator like behavior, there would be no decision for state lawmakers to make, he would make the decision himself. If there were state lawmakers and they went against his decision or even spoke out against it, he would have them silenced one way or another.

Because you think with your feelings, you think that using buzz words like dictator and Hitler adds more 'weight' to your argument. In reality, it negatively affects your argument when any rational and critical-thinking person hears them. A simple, 'I don't agree with Trump lobbying state lawmakers' would suffice and be much more respected and received. I and many on here would listen to those arguments, but when you continually use those buzz words, we immediately discredit the argument and tune you out.
Dictators don’t always start out as dictators. Germany pre-Hitler was still a functioning democracy. As power was gained it was used to gain more power. The ultimate objective to squash all opposition so they can achieve the desired objective.
There is a reason we study history as so we can recognize events such as these.
Trump had every right to oppose expanded mail in voting however according to the Constitution of the United States it is left to the states to hold elections. Once the states made their decisions it is his duty to uphold the Constitution he swore to defend and accept the outcome of the state races. He however is more determined to further divide the nation by making unprovable claims and accusations.
 
That’s dumb. No matter who the lower courts rule for, the other side will appeal. The SCOTUS is the inevitable endgame. Amazing how stupid you sound compared to your arrogant posture.
and you can't get to SCOTUS without presenting REAL evidence in lower courts. there is no allowance of evidence or witnesses at the supreme court. You only get to bring forward lower court briefs and rulings. Time for ghouliani to put up or shut up.
 
In all seriousness, I do agree with those that say Trump’s team needs to start presenting the evidence. Every day that passes after the election makes the claim harder to prove as well as further cementing Biden as the winner. It’s time to make the move if you have it.

In regards to attempting to persuade the legislatures to submit pro-Trump electors, I’m not sure how to feel about it. It’s a very dangerous precedent to set that our elections are irrelevant to selection of the President. Yes, it’s fully constitutional and legal. But it undoubtedly gives me pause. It’s clearly not an ideal situation.

On the other hand, when I look at the modern day left what I see terrifies me. You have a party that has come to embrace communist ideals, abhors free speech, cheers censorship, wants to throw open the border, espouses openly racist ideology, will sell us out to China, and silence anyone who disagrees with them. When I consider that, I’m much more likely to agree with using those mechanisms to keep Trump in power.

I honestly don’t see how America can last much longer in its current form. We’re too divided and the foundational core values that transcended party lines - belief in our constitution, individual liberty, limited government, love of country, and yes, Judeo-Christian values - are no longer present on one side. How do you compromise with a side that not only wants radical change from our traditional beliefs but also HATES those that cherish those beliefs. I don’t know...

I share your fears bud along with millions of other Americans. I would be okay with splitting this country into two separate countries than to live in a communist plantation.
 
Again, why didn’t every state have these same swings?
Because of the individual makeups of each state. Phoenix, Detroit, Las Vegas, Atlanta, and Philadelphia are all very different cities with different demographics. Philly and Detroit literally have more black people than LA at a fraction of its size. Strongest Dem voting blocs in the whole country. Vegas and Phoenix meanwhile are white and Hispanic, much more even vote distribution so no gigantic swings as their vote comes in. Maricopa and Philadelphia counties have entirely different populations, why would you expect them to vote exactly the same?
 
The most dangerous thing for this country would be for an illegitimate President to be inaugurated and then to later have iron clad proof come out that he was illegitimate. A civil war would break out if he didn't resign immediately.
And how dangerous would it be if they are never able to produce that proof? Is that the new precident? Lose an election, make claims of fraud without “iron clad proof” to stay in power just in case that proof can be found...or manufactured?
 
God damn I go to the bar last night and check this, this morning and all of a sudden Tucker is a fraud and a sellout.

I looked at the clip and have no issue with what he did. He did the exact same thing with the Dems when it came to Russia. Schiff and all them kept saying we have seen and have the proof of evidence that Trump and Russia colluded. So Tucker continually brought those guys on and continually asked them for the evidence. Tucker was praised for it from the right.

He does the exact same thing to the Sidney Powell chick and many on the right call him a fraud for it. I personally think there was major fraud, but sooner or later youre going to need to start showing evidence if you continue to go on TV and say you have evidence of it. Tucker is doing the right thing by asking to see some evidence of it.

It was only a couple weeks ago people on here were praising him as the best on TV when he did the Bobulinski interview. Now he questions something on the right that people on the right dont like to be questioned and now he is a hack sellout. Everyone should be wanting to see the evidence. Cant get mad at Tucker for holding the Right to the same standards he holds the Left.
 
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Well, he has made the argument publicly that the legislatures ought to change the law about reps to the electoral college (which almost all legislators have already flatly rejected as being illegal as hell).

So what legitimate business do you think the President is discussing with the Michigan legislators, pr even local election boards, if not to twist their arms to change the law after the election and send Republican electors to Washington to vote, instead of Democrats who actually won the state by 150,000 votes? What would you call that? Trump being Trump, and laugh it off?

You do realize that election laws were changed without going through the legislature? I don't recall you being upset about that, even though its unconstitutional.
 
Dictators don’t always start out as dictators. Germany pre-Hitler was still a functioning democracy. As power was gained it was used to gain more power. The ultimate objective to squash all opposition so they can achieve the desired objective.
There is a reason we study history as so we can recognize events such as these.
Trump had every right to oppose expanded mail in voting however according to the Constitution of the United States it is left to the states to hold elections. Once the states made their decisions it is his duty to uphold the Constitution he swore to defend and accept the outcome of the state races. He however is more determined to further divide the nation by making unprovable claims and accusations.


Well thank god we have you, the democrat party, the corporate media, all social media and big corporations to band together in a coordinated effort to stop Dictator Trump.


You have to be mind numbingly retarded to think the guy who is opposed by the news media that works in conjunction with the other political party is the dictator.
 
Dictators don’t always start out as dictators. Germany pre-Hitler was still a functioning democracy. As power was gained it was used to gain more power. The ultimate objective to squash all opposition so they can achieve the desired objective.
There is a reason we study history as so we can recognize events such as these.
Trump had every right to oppose expanded mail in voting however according to the Constitution of the United States it is left to the states to hold elections. Once the states made their decisions it is his duty to uphold the Constitution he swore to defend and accept the outcome of the state races. He however is more determined to further divide the nation by making unprovable claims and accusations.

He's had 4 years to become a dictator and hasn't even come close. He had the perfect opportunity with Covid to gain dictator-like control, but followed the law and put it in the states' governors' hands. Because you don't agree with his policies doesn't mean he is further dividing the country. Maybe the left should put some effort into compromising to not further divide the country instead of pushing back against anything he says or does like they have for the last 4 years.
 
TRump now inviting state lawmakers to the WH to try and convince them to ignore their voters and install electors loyal to him. You don't go for that strategy if you think you have proof to win. That move is also now about to force republican senators to turn against Trump. Directly interfering with the states election officials is even a bridge to far for them.
 
Because of the individual makeups of each state. Phoenix, Detroit, Las Vegas, Atlanta, and Philadelphia are all very different cities with different demographics. Philly and Detroit literally have more black people than LA at a fraction of its size. Strongest Dem voting blocs in the whole country. Vegas and Phoenix meanwhile are white and Hispanic, much more even vote distribution so no gigantic swings as their vote comes in. Maricopa and Philadelphia counties have entirely different populations, why would you expect them to vote exactly the same?

How about St Louis, Memphis, Birmingham, Norfolk, Newark?

My point is there are large cities all over the nation, similar dumps should be apparent.
 
TRump now inviting state lawmakers to the WH to try and convince them to ignore their voters and install electors loyal to him. You don't go for that strategy if you think you have proof to win. That move is also now about to force republican senators to turn against Trump. Directly interfering with the states election officials is even a bridge to far for them.

Where is your evidence thats what they're discussing? You've been harping for weeks about evidence?
 
You do realize that election laws were changed without going through the legislature? I don't recall you being upset about that, even though its unconstitutional.

Thank you Bill, that would have been my reply as well. You don't get to selectively call out one side and ignore the same stuff from the other side. If the left would call out this behavior from their side as vehemently as they call it out on our side, we might listen and respect it more when they do. Their arguments are like North Carolina fans calling out cheating on another University but then doing mental gymnastics to defend the cheating they do. It makes their argument worthless. Hillary talked about electors not following their states outcomes, but none of them threw around the dictator word for her.
 
I share your fears bud along with millions of other Americans. I would be okay with splitting this country into two separate countries than to live in a communist plantation.


The conservative states should make a pact with Mexico.

The liberal states should make a pact with Canada.

Ideally, this gets handled without war.
 
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You do realize that election laws were changed without going through the legislature? I don't recall you being upset about that, even though its unconstitutional.

No, that is a stretch, laws were not changed, the methods of voting were changed to accomodate the virus, as we did here in Kentucky, e.g., in Lexington, only 8 polling places open instead of 160 or so, and you could vote early. Maybe we disagree on semantics. And in each Kentucky county, various methods of voting have been used for many years, some have machines, some have scanners, etc. There has never been one size fits all method. Since Trump/McConnell/Barr and 90% of the legislature seats went Republican, with a near record turnout, I am having a hard time seeing the problem. It is just your guy did not win in other states. That sometimes happens in a Democracy.

But whoever gets the most votes in Kentucky, and almost every other state. the winner's party designates the electors and they troop off to DC to cast a ceremonial vote. Those laws have not changed in many years. But I guess it is OK with a lot of you if THIS President gets to cut a new deal after the election.
 
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Worth watching. George Soros can't be gone soon enough.

 
Bill is surprised that in the densest democrat districts in America whereby all the relatively few Republicans voted in person so their votes were counted first because their State Legislatures refused to allow the mail in votes to be counted prior to election day while the vast majority of Democrats voted via mail in ballots and had their votes counted later, that this numerical bulk votes are an anomaly indicating cheating.

If that were true, then why isn't the bulk of early Republican leads in primarily Democratic districts a sign of Republican cheating? How on earth were the Republicans up so far in these key Democratic districts? Obviously it is cheating even if I am laughed out of every court I try to present it in. Simply invoking the fact that Republicans were up early by large numbers means the Republicans cheated this election. Biden is the new President. Trump must concede immediately as statistically cheating is the only way Republicans could have been up by so many votes in these key Democratic bastions.
 
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And though I voted Trump, I'll admit that I'm ready for him to go away and let's just move forward. An election overturn would be the worst thing to ever happen to this country. I'm not ready to go there. Elections have been rigged/stolen before...and there will be many more in the future. But overturning on it's face what is a convincing win for Biden? Yikes. Can't imagine.

Move on. Fix it in 4 years. Trump lost because he was an asshole...similar to Bevin.
Generally enjoy your takes but cowering to the left is never the answer.
 
How about St Louis, Memphis, Birmingham, Norfolk, Newark?

My point is there are large cities all over the nation, similar dumps should be apparent.
Because MI, WI, and PA, the states with those lopsided dumps, all had to wait until election day to count their mail-ins which were extremely lopsided Dem. Norfolk is the only one that had a similar process, and it did have the same pattern of an extremely heavy Biden mail-in dump that came in late. That's why networks all night had to defend their early calls of VA for Biden when viewers saw Trump ahead. They called it based on outstanding vote in cities which they knew were coming in last and heavy Biden.
 
Republicans took a huge early lead in Virginia so obviously there was massive Republican cheating even if I can't prove it. That settles it. Game over. I just proved Republican vote cheating. The machines were owned by Vladimir Putin's son Baron-kryefke and Roger Ailes. I filed all the evidence with the court then promptly withdrew it before the court could examine it. This information is damning and if it isn't front page news in the next 15 minutes that is more evidence of cheating. All your votes are ours.
 
No matter if its Trump or Biden the next 4 years there will almost definitely be a civil war. 50% of the country on one side is going to think Biden or Trump is illegitimate. Not sure how that doesnt end up in widespread violence either way.
 
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