Yep- social engineering at its finest.
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And though I voted Trump, I'll admit that I'm ready for him to go away and let's just move forward. An election overturn would be the worst thing to ever happen to this country. I'm not ready to go there. Elections have been rigged/stolen before...and there will be many more in the future. But overturning on it's face what is a convincing win for Biden? Yikes. Can't imagine.
Move on. Fix it in 4 years. Trump lost because he was an asshole...similar to Bevin.
Move on. Fix it in 4 years. Trump lost because he was an asshole...similar to Bevin.
Same thing with peanuts. When i was a kid it was perfectly fine to bring a PBJ to school.
So just let Biden just get away with the heist? Yes makes perfect sense.
You must be very happy that OJ was acquitted too.
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The eyeroll is how I feel about your view, but I respect your right to feel that way.No one blames Trump for recounts in close states, anyone would do the same. And all these lawsuits are BS
But the above is really disturbing, Benedict Arnold would have been proud.
Tucker Carlson: Time for Sidney Powell to show us her evidence
On Thursday, Rudy Giuliani and a number of the president's other lawyers held a press conference on the topic of voter fraud. If you didn't actually see it, you've probably heard about it by now.www.foxnews.com
If Trump's team can conclusively prove that the election was stolen from Trump and the American people that voted for him, then full steam ahead to whatever it takes to get the election overturned. Otherwise, if this is some kind of dog and pony show then man up and admit you lost and lets move on. I'm not looking forward to 4 years of Biden/Harris, that's for d@mn sure. But this side show, if that's what it is, isn't good for the country either.
Let it play out in court there's to much on the line. Election security cannot be undervalued.
What on earth makes you think you'd have a fair election ever again if nothing is done about this travesty ? They probably said this in Cuba when the Castros came to power
Peanut allergies, ADHD, and gluten intolerance were all cured with switches.
Why do you all throw out the dictator word? You are just cheapening the true meaning of a dictator. If Trump was a dictator or was exhibiting dictator like behavior, there would be no decision for state lawmakers to make, he would make the decision himself. If there were state lawmakers and they went against his decision or even spoke out against it, he would have them silenced one way or another.
Because you think with your feelings, you think that using buzz words like dictator and Hitler adds more 'weight' to your argument. In reality, it negatively affects your argument when any rational and critical-thinking person hears them. A simple, 'I don't agree with Trump lobbying state lawmakers' would suffice and be much more respected and received. I and many on here would listen to those arguments, but when you continually use those buzz words, we immediately discredit the argument and tune you out.
That’s dumb. No matter who the lower courts rule for, the other side will appeal. The SCOTUS is the inevitable endgame. Amazing how stupid you sound compared to your arrogant posture.
I understand your sentiment, '73, but I'm more along the lines of "put up or shut up," if Trump's lawyers have something that is significant enough to overturn an election let's see it, but if not and they're playing some game to try to reverse what appears to be the will of the people, eff that noise, let's move on.
Edit: Which is what I think Tucker Carlson was saying last night.
Same. I remember in High School (graduated in 2001) my friends and I went to a Dairy Queen and they had a sign that warned that peanuts were being served and we were all like "WTF?!"
If they have it they'll put it out before a judge not before the media.
Fact: we don't know Trump's strategy.
Wouldn't be surprised at all if there's some misdirection.
Let it play out.
Wouldn't be surprised at all if there's some misdirection.
Let it play out.
if they had it, they wouldnt be going the faithless electors route and stalling certification to get to that route.
Well, he has made the argument publicly that the legislatures ought to change the law about reps to the electoral college (which almost all legislators have already flatly rejected as being illegal as hell).
So what legitimate business do you think the President is discussing with the Michigan legislators, pr even local election boards, if not to twist their arms to change the law after the election and send Republican electors to Washington to vote, instead of Democrats who actually won the state by 150,000 votes? What would you call that? Trump being Trump, and laugh it off?
Imagine a house being on fire in a neighborhood, and when the fire department shows up, they're like, "It's okay, no need to do anything. It's not widespread."
Maybe to show them some of the proof that he has that there was massive statewide fraud and that he legitimately won Michigan? Making sure that they don't certify the votes for Biden because he knows Biden didn't win. The court battle could take time and might very well not be resolved before the EC meets.
Trump using constitutional and legal methods to be elected president = dictatorial moves.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Imagine posting something like this thinking you made a point.
Once the truth comes out, history will treat Joe Biden's presidency like UL's 2013 NCAA title...with an *
If it comes out I agree. I just hope they can get it before he's inaugurated. Otherwise who knows what will happen
Half the country and the Democrat Leaders that never let the man sleep a single night the whole time he was in office with lies and smear deserve a quick resolution? Doesn't work that way.
Have any of you listened to questions asked of Joe Biden? The man can not complete a sentence or thought. And these are soft ball questions.
Here are the facts and truth. If you voted for him and he does become your president he will not be in charge of anything. Harris will be and she has a one track mind of everything far left identity politics. It all boils down to racism with her.
Good grief
Here are the facts and truth. If you voted for him and he does become your president he will not be in charge of anything. Harris will be and she has a one track mind of everything far left identity politics. It all boils down to racism with her.
Good grief
In all seriousness, I do agree with those that say Trump’s team needs to start presenting the evidence. Every day that passes after the election makes the claim harder to prove as well as further cementing Biden as the winner. It’s time to make the move if you have it.
In regards to attempting to persuade the legislatures to submit pro-Trump electors, I’m not sure how to feel about it. It’s a very dangerous precedent to set that our elections are irrelevant to selection of the President. Yes, it’s fully constitutional and legal. But it undoubtedly gives me pause. It’s clearly not an ideal situation.
On the other hand, when I look at the modern day left what I see terrifies me. You have a party that has come to embrace communist ideals, abhors free speech, cheers censorship, wants to throw open the border, espouses openly racist ideology, will sell us out to China, and silence anyone who disagrees with them. When I consider that, I’m much more likely to agree with using those mechanisms to keep Trump in power.
I honestly don’t see how America can last much longer in its current form. We’re too divided and the foundational core values that transcended party lines - belief in our constitution, individual liberty, limited government, love of country, and yes, Judeo-Christian values - are no longer present on one side. How do you compromise with a side that not only wants radical change from our traditional beliefs but also HATES those that cherish those beliefs. I don’t know...
In regards to attempting to persuade the legislatures to submit pro-Trump electors, I’m not sure how to feel about it. It’s a very dangerous precedent to set that our elections are irrelevant to selection of the President. Yes, it’s fully constitutional and legal. But it undoubtedly gives me pause. It’s clearly not an ideal situation.
On the other hand, when I look at the modern day left what I see terrifies me. You have a party that has come to embrace communist ideals, abhors free speech, cheers censorship, wants to throw open the border, espouses openly racist ideology, will sell us out to China, and silence anyone who disagrees with them. When I consider that, I’m much more likely to agree with using those mechanisms to keep Trump in power.
I honestly don’t see how America can last much longer in its current form. We’re too divided and the foundational core values that transcended party lines - belief in our constitution, individual liberty, limited government, love of country, and yes, Judeo-Christian values - are no longer present on one side. How do you compromise with a side that not only wants radical change from our traditional beliefs but also HATES those that cherish those beliefs. I don’t know...
It's not. there's civil war next year starting either way
The most dangerous thing for this country would be for an illegitimate President to be inaugurated and then to later have iron clad proof come out that he was illegitimate. A civil war would break out if he didn't resign immediately.
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