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The law may vary from state to state. Here in Tennessee gun show purchases are classified as "peer to peer sales" same as if you sold a gun to the brother-in-law, and they do not require background checks.
Even in Tennessee, if it’s a vendor at a gun show they have to submit a background check to TBI. However what you’re talking about is the individuals who are private sellers at gun shows, which happens just like side of the road sales and pawn shop sales. I’ve helped friends work booths at East TN gun shows and as a dealer they had to submit a background check. When I go to a gun show now in TN, as a KY resident they have to have my paper work sent to a KY FFL dealer to process the paperwork on a handgun or rifle. You could ban private sales at gun shows but you can’t stop them from going to the parking lot and making a deal or meeting up later. Their is no loophole to close unless you make peer to peer illegal without a 3rd party background check.

Even then, a department of justice study in 2016 calculated that only 0.8% of prisoners who possessed firearms during their offense came from gun shows. 43% which was the highest, came from illegal sources such as the stolen goods market.
 
no..... cuomo needed a place for them to go and it was nursing homes that mixed them with the general residents .... you know nursing homes that are known to not to know their head from their azz.

thats what you are talking about right?
Holy shit - you cannot be serious. The Javits Center and the USNS Comfort were barely used...bc Cuomo’s executive order of sending them back to nursing homes.
 
no..... cuomo needed a place for them to go and it was nursing homes that mixed them with the general residents .... you know nursing homes that are known to not to know their head from their azz.

thats what you are talking about right?
False. Cuomo knew what he was doing. He was sending them to their death. You are just too corrupt to admit it.
 
Bigot: a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

without even having to discuss the rest, his tweets and speeches about liberals is bigotry right there. then his views on muslems etc. Now some have claimed he's not talking about all, just some that do bad things but thats never how he words things... he always makes it sound like all liberals or all muslems or all latinos coming from central and south america. etc.
Most of the quotes I have heard him say and read that he said do not support your claim. The Latino comment about rapists, drug dealers, etc., coming across the boarder, in particular, doesn't paint all Latinos with a broad brush. You really have to want to read racism and bigotry into them to come to that conclusion. I personally use those quotes to determine the point of view of the people I am talking to. Liberals want those comments to be racist, so they twist them in that direction and never take them in the context they were meant.
 
Even in Tennessee, if it’s a vendor at a gun show they have to submit a background check to TBI. However what you’re talking about is the individuals who are private sellers at gun shows, which happens just like side of the road sales and pawn shop sales. I’ve helped friends work booths at East TN gun shows and as a dealer they had to submit a background check. When I go to a gun show now in TN, as a KY resident they have to have my paper work sent to a KY FFL dealer to process the paperwork on a handgun or rifle. You could ban private sales at gun shows but you can’t stop them from going to the parking lot and making a deal or meeting up later. Their is no loophole to close unless you make peer to peer illegal without a 3rd party background check.

Even then, a department of justice study in 2016 calculated that only 0.8% of prisoners who possessed firearms during their offense came from gun shows. 43% which was the highest, came from illegal sources such as the stolen goods market.
IF YOU OUTLAW GUNS ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE THEM. Is a saying that is completely true.
 
No social media site "only" censors anyone.

Though I can't imagine why anyone would censor a guy like Alex Jones or Steve Bannon.

Steve Bannon is a patriot and an extremely bright and misunderstood man. But you’d know that if you weren’t part of the propagandized media zombies.

He would also make you look like a fool one on one in a debate, which you wouldn’t dare step to. Don’t be a coward like the rest of the censorship and warmonger crowd.

Steve Brannon was branded by the MSM for people just like you. You fools are going to get America in more wars than you know how to count. Just wait.
 
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you prefer the president to word things in a way that outrages people?
If the truth outrages people maybe they should grow up and live in the real world. You included.

I prefer that they do those things that makes the country better for people long term, not say things that make them feel good for the moment.
 
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no..... cuomo needed a place for them to go and it was nursing homes that mixed them with the general residents .... you know nursing homes that are known to not to know their head from their azz.

thats what you are talking about right?

Cuomo had plenty of places to put them.

1. USS Comfort - But didnt cause didn’t want Trump to get credit.

2. US Army Corp of Engineers facilities - Again, weren’t used cause... “Trump”

3. Salvation Army Med Facilities - The Gays didn’t want people dying w covid being treated by health care professionals who work for an org that supports marriage between a man and a woman. Cuomo agreed.

Because when you’re on a ventilator dying of a covid your number one concern about your nurse is “what’s their position on gay sex?”
 
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no..... cuomo needed a place for them to go and it was nursing homes that mixed them with the general residents .... you know nursing homes that are known to not to know their head from their azz.

thats what you are talking about right?
He put sick ppl, with a virus that disproportionally impacts elderly, in a home FOR old ppl. He couldve put them anywhere else.

So, FTR, you are defending cuomo's actions WRT covid? Ok ... nuff said.
 
Holy shit - you cannot be serious. The Javits Center and the USNS Comfort were barely used...bc Cuomo’s executive order of sending them back to nursing homes.

I'm sorry, was that center set up to take care of those people medical needs other than covid? coverting it into a full blown nursing home ... that requires money that trump wasing giving NY
 
oh there are bigots all over.... and I know many here like trump because he's not a normal politician but I'd prefer the president word things in a way that doesnt cause a major uproar in america lol.
I'm going to play devil's advocate. In many cases, did the President's wording cause an uproar, or did how the liberal media reported those comments cause the uproar. Truthfully, while I think Trump says a lot of needless crap, I think the media has created much more uproar because of the way they report things than Trump did. I will venture a guess, that although Biden can't put together 10 words without a major gaff, the reporting of his misspeaks will not take the same path as they did with Trump.
 
I'm sorry, was that center set up to take care of those people medical needs other than covid? coverting it into a full blown nursing home ... that requires money that trump wasing giving NY
So, cuomo killed old ppl so he could save a few bucks? That is your frigging argument??? Cmon man!

PSA: Dude, youre digging a deeper hole ...
 
I'm going to play devil's advocate. In many cases, did the President's wording cause an uproar, or did how the liberal media reported those comments cause the uproar. Truthfully, while I think Trump says a lot of needless crap, I think the media has created much more uproar because of the way they report things than Trump did. I will venture a guess, that although Biden can't put together 10 words without a major gaff, the reporting of his misspeaks will not take the same path as they did with Trump.
B I N G O!
 
So, cuomo killed old ppl so he could save a few bucks? That is your frigging argument??? Cmon man!

PSA: Dude, youre digging a deeper hole ...

thats not what I said. Trump killed those people by not giving NY funding

i mean since we're being manipulative and twisting words.. i'll just say things to get a rise out of you instead.

you're not interested in logical discussion. you are only interested in making sure this thread is an echo chamber

these nursing homes were supposed to keep them separate. or do we also now blame hospitals for having covid patients and regular patients in the same hospital?
 
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thats not what I said. Trump killed those people by not giving NY funding

i mean since we're being manipulative and twisting words.. i'll just say things to get a rise out of you instead.
False, TDS makes you say that even though what little gray matter you have upstairs screams for you to tell the truth. Get help.
 
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I'm sorry, was that center set up to take care of those people medical needs other than covid? coverting it into a full blown nursing home ... that requires money that trump wasing giving NY
Nope. Decision April 2nd to care for C19 patients in Javits and the Comfort was converted to C19 coverage. Any other questions?
 
Even in Tennessee, if it’s a vendor at a gun show they have to submit a background check to TBI. However what you’re talking about is the individuals who are private sellers at gun shows, which happens just like side of the road sales and pawn shop sales. I’ve helped friends work booths at East TN gun shows and as a dealer they had to submit a background check. When I go to a gun show now in TN, as a KY resident they have to have my paper work sent to a KY FFL dealer to process the paperwork on a handgun or rifle. You could ban private sales at gun shows but you can’t stop them from going to the parking lot and making a deal or meeting up later. Their is no loophole to close unless you make peer to peer illegal without a 3rd party background check.

Even then, a department of justice study in 2016 calculated that only 0.8% of prisoners who possessed firearms during their offense came from gun shows. 43% which was the highest, came from illegal sources such as the stolen goods market.

JMO but I think anyone that sells fire arms to the public should be a registered dealer like the friends you speak off and comply with background check requirements. Peer to Peer sales should be exempted. That's essentially what the Toomey/Manchin bill said that never passed. If, as you say most sales are compliant anyway than I don't see a problem, in fact I think it's only fair to the registered dealers who now have to compete against the unlicensed sellers.
 
thats not what I said. Trump killed those people by not giving NY funding

i mean since we're being manipulative and twisting words.. i'll just say things to get a rise out of you instead.

you're not interested in logical discussion. you are only interested in making sure this thread is an echo chamber
Oh, so now your argument is ... orange man bad. Ok. Was that an echo? Couldnt have been because NO ONE has made that argument on here. Lol.

Cuomo had PLENTY of options and he CHOSE to put sick ppl with the elderly. Those are both facts. Yet, you are so ate up with tds you will not admit that cuomo f'd up.

You said Trump killed those ppl because cuomo mixed sick and elderly. Who is missing logic? Not me, man.
 
Pretty big if Rudy and not some random person on Twitter reporting. If more and more come forward seeking immunity what does that tell you? They aren’t stupid. They know there are widespread glitches that changed the election otherwise they wouldn’t be coming forward. What a glorious time to be a patriot.

Hundreds of years from now when you open a history book you will read about the coronavirus and the great election fraud of 2020 and we are going to beat both.
 
Pretty big if Rudy and not some random person on Twitter reporting. If more and more come forward seeking immunity what does that tell you? They aren’t stupid. They know there are widespread glitches that changed the election otherwise they wouldn’t be coming forward. What a glorious time to be a patriot.

Hundreds of years from now when you open a history book you will read about the coronavirus and the great election fraud of 2020 and we are going to beat both.

Exactly
 
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They are already mail in so you guessed wrong. You can already apply for your ballot. You can also still move to GA, gain residency, and vote. While the GoP watches Trump circle the toilet the Dems are already all in on GA.

They’ll lose both races handily, watch and see. And when they lose handily the appearance of fraud in this election will grow louder.
In fact, here’s what the excuse will be, “ Trump wasn’t in the ticket”.
 
thats not what I said. Trump killed those people by not giving NY funding

i mean since we're being manipulative and twisting words.. i'll just say things to get a rise out of you instead.

you're not interested in logical discussion. you are only interested in making sure this thread is an echo chamber

these nursing homes were supposed to keep them separate. or do we also now blame hospitals for having covid patients and regular patients in the same hospital?

Why does the state of New York, probably one of the overall wealthiest places in the world, have to rely on Federal dollars to save lives in this specific situation? That's pretty scary that the state is that dependent on the Federal government.

If the money was that important to the cause, then:
- They couldn't get a loan from one of the megabanks that conducts business in New York City?
- People like Michael Bloomberg couldn't step forward to donate the money to save lives, but he could spend $1 billion on his election bid and for other political purposes?
- ActBlue couldn't crowdfund it within 24 hours?
- Nobody could step up to volunteer without being paid?
- No company could donate the necessary supplies?
- Trump giving Federal money was the magic wand of survival to supplant all of the above alternatives?

Yes, let's discuss the logic, please.
 
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Man, I'd hate see liberals react if an entire Presidency was held up by investigations, impeachments, and general feet dragging all around just because one side was red assed about loosing...

Great thing about Washington, is that it's the same old faces or friends of same old faces with every "new" admin...

We all know it's going to be the Obama admin mixed with some lifer friends of Joe from Bush and Clinton camps. After 4 years of red ass and feet dragging, it's pretty clear those groups of people never left town...so it shouldn't take much to get them going.
 
Well he's blatantly violated the Constitution's emoluments clause multiple times, like when he accepted a billion dollar personal business loan from the Chinese government in exchange for lifting U.S. sanctions on China's telecommunications structure.

But I think that my peronal favorite is when, in the middle of a pandemic, without any notification, he seized millions from NYC's fund for 9/11 first responders, suddenly defunding treatment for many, many suffering heroes. It's bad enough that he lied about personally pulling victims from the rubble at ground zero, but to screw so, so many suffering police officers, firefighters, and other who actually did is just spectacular.

That entire post is a lie, it’s unbelievable if you believe that.
 
Cuomo had plenty of places to put them.

1. USS Comfort - But didnt cause didn’t want Trump to get credit.

2. US Army Corp of Engineers facilities - Again, weren’t used cause... “Trump”

3. Salvation Army Med Facilities - The Gays didn’t want people dying w covid being treated by health care professionals who work for an org that supports marriage between a man and a woman. Cuomo agreed.

Because when you’re on a ventilator dying of a covid your number one concern about your nurse is “what’s this persons position on gay sex?”


How long did Comfort sit empty while in New York? The whole time it was there. Nobody to blame except that inept Governor and Mayor..
 
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