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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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GDP was 2.9 not 3.1. You don't take the average of quarterly annual gdp growth to get final growth. You add each quarterly GPD growth. Trump is taking (2.6+3.4+4.2+2.2)/4 to get 3.1. Well we all now he is to stupid to do math, whoever he is retweeting did that. Real GDP was .6+.8+1+.5=2.9
Trump should stop tweeting fake news.
average GDP since 1950 is 3.2 so he can't even beat the average. Obama had 2.9 in 2015 so he can't even beat Obama. MAGA!
https://countryeconomy.com/gdp/usa
Here us a nice graph to show how pathetic TRumps GDP has been and will be. The best possible prediction for 2019 is 2.2%
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So the only metric that matters is US soldier deaths? That's obviously insane, but also very nationalistic. A bizarre perspective coming from you.
Those are your words not mine, an effort on your part to distort what people say so you can argue. Juvenile. But if you think I first care about the US sending soldiers to their death for nothing of any value beyond a Texas size ego, then you would be right.
 
The president had to issue an EO to force universities in America to allow free speech on their campus. We deteriorated as a society, especially in the Ivory Halls of higher education. The schools have become Nazis .
You don't even know the definition of words you string together.
 
GDP was 2.9 not 3.1. You don't take the average of quarterly annual gdp growth to get final growth. You add each quarterly GPD growth. Trump is taking (2.6+3.4+4.2+2.2)/4 to get 3.1. Well we all now he is to stupid to do math, whoever he is retweeting did that. Real GDP was .6+.8+1+.5=2.9
Trump should stop tweeting fake news.
average GDP since 1950 is 3.2 so he can't even beat the average. Obama had 2.9 in 2015 so he can't even beat Obama. MAGA!
https://countryeconomy.com/gdp/usa
Here us a nice graph to show how pathetic TRumps GDP has been and will be. The best possible prediction for 2019 is 2.2%
D2RAVu1X4AIhQe7.jpg
That's not how the 3.1% or the 2.9% are calculated. For example, look at Ireland, which shows 6.7% growth, but their quarterly growth numbers are .1%, .9%, 2.1% and -.5%. There are two ways of calculating GDP growth. One is annualized level compared with annualized level of the previous year. That number is 2.9% The other way is to use fourth quarter compared with the fourth quarter of the previous year. That number 3.1%
 
You're so far from the truth you've lost contact with it. I've been paying for extremely expensive wars that a couple of Texas cowboys wanted to play in now.

People who are crazy typically don't know it, they think everyone else is... there's something wrong with everyone else, you're the one that is normal, you are special.

No, I was born in an actual socialist country, have lived in a social democratic one and have an EU passport. I'm probably the only person you have ever actually talked to that actually knows what they are talking about wrt to this. These aren't foreign ideas, vague 99% fantasies to me like they are to you; i've lived it, talked to real people and I've never met anyone who actually understands both, has lived both to disagree with me. Sure, there are complete idiots notwithstanding like the ones you or someone linked earlier that think the actual cost difference between a US birth and Finland birth is 12k $ vs 60 euros. So myopic it strains credulity, not just ignoring real cost, totally ignoring the reality that these countries have to go through various loops and measure to increase birth rates, why? amoung other reasons, because raising a family is so tax burden and cost prohibitive due to what? that's right, democratic socialism.

In the end, you actually think the free lunch exists, that if it weren't for those greedy rich to blame you'd have a better life, and that simply isn't the case... not even close. I'm fully aware you think you are privy to some special truth, but it is a delusion. You would be even unhappier then than now, you'd just find someone new to blame, a new opressor. There's nothing but historical precedent for that reality.

And under democratic socialism you'd pay even more for thos wars you don't like. As it is now, 90% of the income tax burden falls on the top 10% of wage earners, or whatever it is similar, under socialism you'd be paying even more regardless of tax bracket you fall under until I guess the eventual weakening of the armed forces to the point Chinese invasion occurred. This is what would actually happen eventually, military and economic collapse especially considering as it is now we are the only country, to some degree china too i guess, that can actually get away with printing our own money.... that's just begging for world war 3 with china.
 
That's not how the 3.1% or the 2.9% are calculated. For example, look at Ireland, which shows 6.7% growth, but their quarterly growth numbers are .1%, .9%, 2.1% and -.5%. There are two ways of calculating GDP growth. One is annualized level compared with annualized level of the previous year. That number is 2.9% The other way is to use fourth quarter compared with the fourth quarter of the previous year. That number 3.1%


It really isn't worth it.
 
I think a lot of it sucked for sure but I don't recall hundreds or thousands of American servicemen coming home in coffins from those countries.

Those are your words not mine, an effort on your part to distort what people say so you can argue. Juvenile. But if you think I first care about the US sending soldiers to their death for nothing of any value beyond a Texas size ego, then you would be right.

You used specifically #of US military deaths to downplay involvement in Syria, Yemen, and Libya.
 
That's not how the 3.1% or the 2.9% are calculated. For example, look at Ireland, which shows 6.7% growth, but their quarterly growth numbers are .1%, .9%, 2.1% and -.5%. There are two ways of calculating GDP growth. One is annualized level compared with annualized level of the previous year. That number is 2.9% The other way is to use fourth quarter compared with the fourth quarter of the previous year. That number 3.1%
annualized is real GDP which is 2.9%. TRump is just saying 3.1 because he wants to break the magical 3% barrier that Obama couldn't and he also hasn't and never will.
 
GDP was 2.9 not 3.1. You don't take the average of quarterly annual gdp growth to get final growth. You add each quarterly GPD growth. Trump is taking (2.6+3.4+4.2+2.2)/4 to get 3.1. Well we all now he is to stupid to do math, whoever he is retweeting did that. Real GDP was .6+.8+1+.5=2.9
That's not right either.

It's 1.006x1.008x1.010x1.005 = 1.0293.
 
annualized is real GDP which is 2.9%. TRump is just saying 3.1 because he wants to break the magical 3% barrier that Obama couldn't and he also hasn't and never will.
Both numbers are calculations of real GDP growth. It is 3.1% depending on which calculation you use. Both calculations are commonly used depending on the source you are looking at. The BEA calculates and uses both methods. Frankly, I prefer looking at the fourth quarter 2017 compared with fourth quarter 2018 instead of annualized 2017 compared with annualized 2018. But that is just my opinion.
 
annualized is real GDP which is 2.9%. TRump is just saying 3.1 because he wants to break the magical 3% barrier that Obama couldn't and he also hasn't and never will.


He moved the goal posts. We all understand that, you dunce. You however have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
 
Privacy. That's Iphone.

Just saw that commercial. They only maintain your privacy if you're a terrorist, correct? Didn't they give free and clear access to Roger Stone's accounts?
 
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GDP was 2.9 not 3.1. You don't take the average of quarterly annual gdp growth to get final growth. You add each quarterly GPD growth. Trump is taking (2.6+3.4+4.2+2.2)/4 to get 3.1. Well we all now he is to stupid to do math, whoever he is retweeting did that. Real GDP was .6+.8+1+.5=2.9
Trump should stop tweeting fake news.
average GDP since 1950 is 3.2 so he can't even beat the average. Obama had 2.9 in 2015 so he can't even beat Obama. MAGA!
https://countryeconomy.com/gdp/usa
Here us a nice graph to show how pathetic TRumps GDP has been and will be. The best possible prediction for 2019 is 2.2%
D2RAVu1X4AIhQe7.jpg

1. False
2. Never seen anyone so miserable they want the US to fail - economically, socially, militarily... because their girl Hillary did not win. Absolutely sad place you are in 24/7 wishing for misery.

You are the type of person who would beg Cindy Crawford for a date, and then spend the entire evening complaining about her mole.
 
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Lol at AOC saying ppl dont have american prosperity anymore. I guess to fair she became an adult when obama was president so she probably did see a decline
 
lmao Trump nominates complete moron Stephen Moore to the fed board. The guy that said Clinton would crash the economy and destroy tax revenue. His entire career is based around just spamming supply side articles endlessly and always being wrong. He spent all of Obama's years telling everyone to ditch currency and buy gold because hyperinflation was on the way.
 
Privacy. That's Iphone.

Just saw that commercial. They only maintain your privacy if you're a terrorist, correct? Didn't they give free and clear access to Roger Stone's accounts?


Apple wouldn't assist breaking into someones phone, but if your info is on their cloud just get a search warrant. The cloud is Apple's property.





I hated writing that.
 
and the markets crash as bond rates invert. the question now is if Trump can hold off the recession until after elections?

Over/under on when the market goes down 2 points he will say it is Trump’s market, and next week when it goes up 139 points he will jump back in and say it is because of what he did 7 years ago. [eyeroll]
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...tions-immediately-after-treasury-imposes-them
So Treasury imposed new sanctions yesterday because NK is cheating on the trade sanctions like they always have. Today Trump cancels the sanctions. Does Trump not communicate with anyone in his administration?

Several White House officials told CNN they were confused by Trump's tweet and were unsure what he was referring to. But in the 24 hours before Trump walked back the sanctions, top administration officials were busy publicly heralding the new designations targeting the Chinese shipping companies.
 
Lol at AOC saying ppl dont have american prosperity anymore. I guess to fair she became an adult when obama was president so she probably did see a decline

I don’t want to sound like I think she has a point, but Americans are more riddled with debt than ever before. Yes, the job market is humming. Yes, people are spending. But they’re spending money they don’t have.
 
I don’t want to sound like I think she has a point, but Americans are more riddled with debt than ever before. Yes, the job market is humming. Yes, people are spending. But they’re spending money they don’t have.
People are in debt mostly bc of govt interference. Ppl are in student loan debt bc nothing is there to keep colleges in check bc everyone gets loans...they know theyll get paid. Same thing happened in healthcare.

But to say we arent in the most prosperous time in human history is silly. 99% have running water, cell phones, indoor plumbing, and arent forced to grow their own food or hope they arent devastated by a bad harvest that starves them.

Total moving of the goal post of what "poverty" is. Otherwise ppl are in debt bc of their envious attitude to keep up with the Jones. If you cant afford a 300k house, dont buy one. The "real cost" of products is falling and continues to do so.

Facts and reality are important, not policy based on good intentions and misguided theory

AOC has what's called "wealth privilege" not meaning she's rich, but that she's wealthy in how easy things are compared to the rest of the world that she refuses to see how good things are

 
People are in debt mostly bc of govt interference. Ppl are in student loan debt bc nothing is there to keep colleges in check bc everyone gets loans...they know theyll get paid. Same thing happened in healthcare.

But to say we arent in the most prosperous time in human history is silly. 99% have running water, cell phones, indoor plumbing, and arent forced to grow their own food or hope they arent devastated by a bad harvest that starves them.

Total moving of the goal post of what "poverty" is. Otherwise ppl are in debt bc of their envious attitude to keep up with the Jones. If you cant afford a 300k house, dont buy one. The "real cost" of products is falling and continues to do so.

Facts and reality are important, not policy based on good intentions and misguided theory

AOC has what's called "wealth privilege" not meaning she's rich, but that she's wealthy in how easy things are compared to the rest of the world that she refuses to see how good things are


You got way too deep there, I wasn’t inferring that we aren’t in fantastic shape. But remember when you drive down suburban lane USA, that Tahoe you see in the driveway is getting towed if the owner misses a paycheck.
 
https://arstechnica.com/information...-have-prevented-737-max-crashes-as-an-option/
Boeing is going to be crucified. They sold the safety features for their new MCAS system as add ons. Those 2 planes crashed becasue the pilots had no idea the sensor werent working because they didn't have the indicators. Of course now boeing is adding them in. They are going to lose bigly lawsuits
Are you cheering a large American employer to suffer because DT said something about airplanes?
 
https://www.axios.com/federal-budge...ord-ecaf2f50-89a8-4124-bb9a-103b078a8933.html
Trump sets monthly deficit record! deficit now up 40% over last year. MAGA!

According to Treasury data released Friday, the deficit for the first five months of this fiscal year jumped to $544.2 billion — a 40% increase from the 2018 fiscal year — as corporate and individual tax revenues declined following President Trump's $1.5 trillion tax cut package.
 
Are you cheering a large American employer to suffer because DT said something about airplanes?
they deserve to suffer because they put money before safety. They wanted to charge airlines millions in extra fees to have the proper safety indicator lights come with their planes. Their software was also garbage and wasn't taking data from all of the senors. The one sensor it was taking data from was faulty. This killed over 300 people and almost killed more if it wasn't for some very good pilots. The Obama and Trump administrations both let this happen by giving Boeing all the power in putting the plane in circulation. They let Boeing certify most of the safety results instead of the FAA & NTSB doing their job. Boeing worships the dollar and is going to pay for it.
At some point the GoP also needs to learn to stop worshiping money. They have sacrificed everything they used to stand for in the name $$$$. Some things in life are more important than being rich.
 
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