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"ABC News reported Friday that Flynn is expected to testify that Trump “directed him to make contact with the Russians” during the 2016 campaign."

Even if that is true, contact is not the same as collusion.

ABC jumped the gun. No one is reporting that but them. Everyone else is reporting that it was during the transition, not the campaign, and the Senior official was Kushner, not Trump.
 
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New report out that Comey, during closed a door congressional hearing, testified, under oath, that even though Flynn lied to the FBI, the FBI didn't think it was purposely misleading or deliberate.

Said that they (FBI) ultimately came to the conclusion that he simply misremembered and didn't warrant being brought up on perjury charges. Guess Mueller disagrees.
 
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Last time I'm explaining this to you. They aren't guaranteed to phase out, only if necessary. Besides, '27 is a decade from now. This country seldom goes a decade without tax policy on the table. Our tax policy will more than likely be revisited before '27 where the cuts will be renewed or adjusted, making the '27 phase out moot.

It's not written that way. Nowhere in the bill does it say that they must phase out or that they are guaranteed to phase out. It's a safety measure to make the budget math work. It's for 'just in case'. Just in case doesn't mean a guaranteed forgone conclusion.
You seem to have major comprehension issues.The Senate rule is written that in order to get a simple majority legislation must not add to the deficit after 10 years, making individual tax cuts temporary and set to expire. Whether that happens or not is of no concern to me and never has been. It's something you made up to fit your agenda driven desire to defend republicans on this issue. Obviously you will go to great lengths to do this on a regular basis.

I'm glad you have faith in Congress to do the right thing 10 years from now. Sorry but I don't share that mindset and never will.
 
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There's something that piques my interest and possibly raises a red flag, though. Flynn, as incoming NSA, was well within the norms to reach out to foreign Ambassadors during the transition.

His contact with Kislyak wasn't illegal in any way, nor was it politically damaging/off limits. Him urging Kislyak to "refrain from escalating the situation" wasn't illegal in any way, nor was it politically damaging/off limits.

There has to be a reason why he lied to Pence and sacrificed his job over such a trivial matter, then carried on with that lie while questioned by the FBI, ultimately sacrificing his freedom.

I don't know what it is, but by lying about something of such little importance, that basically amounted to absolutely nothing, it seems like he's a man who has something to hide.

My guess is he lied because it was nothing, but with all the hysteria about Russia at the time the media would’ve blown it up into something more than it was.

It could also be that whenever there’s a special prosecutor blades have to be wetted.
I believe the only reason Flynn plead guilty is to save his sons ass.
 
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You seem to have major comprehension issues

[laughing] Go back and read through our back and forth. You're projecting... again.

The Senate rule is written that in order to get a simple majority legislation must not add to the deficit after 10 years, making individual tax cuts temporary and set to expire.

No shit? We've already established this. The point is, it's not a guaranteed forgone conclusion that they phase out like you tried to frame it. There's nothing in the bill that says they have to phase out. It's a safety measure just in case they're not sustainable. If they are sustainable, they won't phase out. It's that simple.

Whether that happens or not is of no concern to me and never has been.

I can't tell. You were dishonest about it, then have continuously, for pages, defended your half truth. It's clear to see what you tried to do and you got called on it.

Bottom line, the point is, and has been from the start, you have absolutely no clue what happens a decade from now. There's no guarantee that they will/will not phase out. What I've been explaining to you isn't that hard to grasp.

It's something you made up to fit your agenda driven desire to defend republicans on this issue.

I'm not defending anyone. Only calling you out for your dishonesty on the subject.

Obviously you will go to great lengths to do this on a regular basis.

Obviously you'll go to great lengths to defend your dishonesty.

I'm glad you have faith in Congress to do the right thing 10 years from now

I never once said that. My only point is predicting what's going to happen a decade from now, and acting like you know for a fact is dishonest. You told a half truth. The part that fits your narrative. The whole truth is they could phase out, but they also couldn't. There's no guarantee.
 
So, since it was during the transition, the Trump administration went out of its way to make sure they weren't stepping on any toes and reached out to the Obama administration to get approval to make the calls?

[laughing]That settles it. Worst f***ing colluders in history. Trump might as well had Putin on stage stumping for him.
 
[laughing] Go back and read through our back and forth. You're projecting... again.

No shit? We've already established this. The point is, it's not a guaranteed forgone conclusion that they phase out like you tried to frame it. There's nothing in the bill that says they have to phase out. It's a safety measure just in case they're not sustainable. If they are sustainable, they won't phase out. It's that simple.

I can't tell. You were dishonest about it, then have continuously, for pages, defended your half truth. It's clear to see what you tried to do and you got called on it.

Bottom line, the point is, and has been from the start, you have absolutely no clue what happens a decade from now. There's no guarantee that they will/will not phase out. What I've been explaining to you isn't that hard to grasp.

I'm not defending anyone. Only calling you out for your dishonesty on the subject.

Obviously you'll go to great lengths to defend your dishonesty.

I never once said that. My only point is predicting what's going to happen a decade from now, and acting like you know for a fact is dishonest. You told a half truth. The part that fits your narrative. The whole truth is they could phase out, but they also couldn't. There's no guarantee.
What a crock! You made up a narrative as you do in most of your posts and attribute it to others, in this case me.

The dishonesty is something you own since it never occurred to me what Congress would do when the tax cuts expire, only that the process is for them to do so. I can see your vigorous defense and an attempt to be cunning is something you seem to relish but my consistency seems to baffle you. I suppose you are so used to getting your way you feel entitled to act in the behavior you've shown. Feel free to post more drivel about how I guaranteed anything with regards to the tax cuts. As I've said, it's STILL in the legislation and no one can predict what will happen 10 years from now. Not even you. But you own it. You're the GOP!
 
You made up a narrative as you do in most of your posts and attribute it to others, in this case me.

I didn't make up anything. I can go back and quote the post that I replied to. It's plain as day. You tried to frame the phase out as a guarantee in order to use it as a negative talking point and laugh at everyone else for falling for it.

I simply pointing out that you were being dishonest, not telling the whole truth and that there wasn't any guarantee that they will phase out. I'm not the only one, either. @PhattyJ4UK even called you out on your dishonesty and pointed out to you it wasn't guaranteed. Did we both make it up?

I'm over, though. You're right. They are guaranteed to phase out the way Hillary was guaranteed to win the election.
 
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I'm sure I'm missing a few other connections, but off the top of my head; the Obama administration being well of aware of Russian meddling months before the election and ignoring it; the so called 'hack' framed as Russian; all the leaks; Fusion GPS fake dossier; the fake dossier being presented in a presidential briefing guaranteeing it got leaked to the media; FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign obtained using the fake dossier as evidence; the Russian lawyer who is connected to Fusion GPS that set up a meeting with Don Jr was also invited into the country by the Obama administration and now the Flynn calls being approved by the Obama administration.

[laughing] They set those fools up and created just enough reasonable doubt for the imbeciles to believe the Russia collusion narrative. Damn, they're good.
 
Oliver Darcy Retweeted ABC News

ABC News spokesperson tells me that “World News” will clarify that this should be president-elect Trump, not candidate Trump.

Pretty big clarification. FYI Ross was the ABC guy that googled the Aurora shooter's name and started claiming he was a tea party guy.
 
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Oliver Darcy Retweeted ABC News

ABC News spokesperson tells me that “World News” will clarify that this should be president-elect Trump, not candidate Trump.

Pretty big clarification. FYI Ross was the ABC guy that googled the Aurora shooter's name and started claiming he was a tea party guy.
Was just about to post that. Ha



Poor jameslee, got his hopes up for nothing.
 
Have you guys seen what the author looks like? Lol.



Also, the paper saying it got death threats is a total lie. You publish a piece calling for the death of whites and abolishing white DNA and then you claim you're a victim?

That’s what these people have had drilled into their head. No matter what happens, no matter what the circumstances, you are the victim.
 
Oliver Darcy Retweeted ABC News

ABC News spokesperson tells me that “World News” will clarify that this should be president-elect Trump, not candidate Trump.

Pretty big clarification. FYI Ross was the ABC guy that googled the Aurora shooter's name and started claiming he was a tea party guy.

Was just about to post that. Ha



Poor jameslee, got his hopes up for nothing.

Called this earlier and said they jumped the gun. Not that it matters, but they're still wrong, though. They should also correct that the Senior official who directed Flynn to make the call wasn't president elect Trump, but instead was Kushner.
 
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Called this earlier and said they jumped the gun. Not that it matters, but they're still wrong, though. They should also correct that the Senior official who directed Flynn to make the call wasn't president elect Trump, but instead was Kushner.
A perfect example of why no one trusts the media anymore. Even their bombshell stories fall apart within hours.
 
It's looking like the market has weathered the storm, and it's being reported that the Senate has more than enough votes and the bill is, 100%, going to pass as early as tonight, no later than tomorrow. Seems like the political fall out from all of this was nil...well, unless you count social media/message board outrage.
 
It's looking like the market has weathered the storm, and it's being reported that the Senate has more than enough votes and the bill is, 100%, going to pass as early as tonight, no later than tomorrow. Seems like the political fall out from all of this was nil...well, unless you count social media/message board outrage.
Occasionally I peep people like Louise Mensch’s Twitter....:lol. They literally believe Trump et al are going to be sent to the Gulag at any moment. No joke, they think that Trump, Pence, and Ryan will all be impeached due to Mo’er Russia which I guess makes Hillary potus or something or whatever.

Saddest part is the little fans that ask questions, you can tell they truly believe. Meanwhile MAGA but whatevs. Weirdos.
 
Occasionally I peep people like Louise Mensch’s Twitter....:lol. They literally believe Trump et al are going to be sent to the Gulag at any moment. No joke, they think that Trump, Pence, and Ryan will all be impeached due to Mo’er Russia which I guess makes Hillary potus or something or whatever.

Saddest part is the little fans that ask questions, you can tell they truly believe. Meanwhile MAGA but whatevs. Weirdos.
Yeah, last I read of her every Republican at the top was going to jail, leaving Hatch as the president by succession. Nevermind Hatch just announced he's retiring from politics.

Although, maybe he's retiring because he knows he's getting ready to be potus?
 
I didn't make up anything. I can go back and quote the post that I replied to. It's plain as day. You tried to frame the phase out as a guarantee in order to use it as a negative talking point and laugh at everyone else for falling for it.

I simply pointing out that you were being dishonest, not telling the whole truth and that there wasn't any guarantee that they will phase out. I'm not the only one, either. @PhattyJ4UK even called you out on your dishonesty and pointed out to you it wasn't guaranteed. Did we both make it up?

I'm over, though. You're right. They are guaranteed to phase out the way Hillary was guaranteed to win the election.
Go back to the post. Read the guarantee. Oops!
Defend to the end. Drain the swamp!!

Enjoy your tax cuts that phase out, better wages and bonuses for execs and a safer American embassy. [jumpingsmile]mfao
Your dishonesty rants are amusing Moe.
 
Yeah, last I read of her every Republican at the top was going to jail, leaving Hatch as the president by succession. Nevermind Hatch just announced he's retiring from politics.

Although, maybe he's retiring because he knows he's getting ready to be potus?
I’ll buy you an item of your choice from Cardkillers “ecommerce business” if you can float that idea to her and get it RT’d, max $250 because I have no idea what kind of crap he sells. Would be just my luck he sold $1000 naked Joe Biden oil paintings.

Seriously.....send her “Louise omg I’m hearing Orrrrin Hatch is retiring so he can become potus after the Trump team is sent to Leavenworth can you please confirm”......she’ll do it. MAKE IT SO.
 
Wonder what the national conversation would be if Republicans blatantly defied federal gun laws the way Democrats blatantly defy federal immigration laws?

Could you imagine if a dark red state told the federal government to f*** off, set up sanctuary cities for open carry gun owners and started selling them fully automatic weapons and explosives?
 
Go back to the post. Read the guarantee. Oops!

I know exactly what the post says. I've reposted it for you to see once already. I also know exactly what you defended in the several posts that followed. You were dishonest and tried to mislead with a half truth.

Play stupid all you want but it's easy to see what you were doing and how you were trying to frame it. I'm not the only one who took notice, either. You're only backtracking now because you were called on it.

Besides, what more do you want? I already said you were right. The tax cuts are guaranteed to phase out in '27 the way Hatch is guaranteed to become Potus.
 
I know exactly what the post says. I've reposted it for you to see once already. I also know exactly what you defended in the several posts that followed. You were dishonest and tried to mislead with a half truth.

Play stupid all you want but it's easy to see what you were doing and how you were trying to frame it. I'm not the only one who took notice, either. You're only backtracking now because you were called on it.

Besides, what more do you want? I already said you were right. The tax cuts are guaranteed to phase out in '27 the way Hatch is guaranteed to become Potus.
I want you to know that regurgitating a falsehood over and over doesn't make it true. No matter how you READ it. I believe the cuts are pointless and you don't. Let the results speak for themselves and if it doesn't do as promised, we ALL hold the GOP's feet to the fire. Your feet.
 
I want you to know that regurgitating a falsehood over and over doesn't make it true.
Seriously, dude? Still? Do I honestly need to explain this to you? Read your stupid f***ing post, slowly.

You specifically said they were going to phase out as if it were a fact. There's no denying you did. Verbatim, "Enjoy your tax cuts that phase out."

I pointed out to you that you were being dishonest, misleading and telling a half truth.The other half to your half truth, that you conveniently left out, is that they aren't guaranteed to phase out and could actually stay in place. But we both know you purposely left that part out because it goes against your CNN talking points.
 
What is the rationale for this? Makes zero sense.


“These laws do not prevent HIV infections. All they do is stigmatize people living with HIV and reduce access to testing and care.”

– State Sen. Scott Wiener, a San Francisco Democrat


The hell with protecting you, it makes the infected feel bad.

The same thing happened in Canada last week when the PM was on his apology tour. The CDC here says it's a remote chance, but we must soldier on to protect the AIDS infected's feelings.

I would be curious as to CastleRubric CDC take.
 
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