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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
There are so many reasons to have hope for the future if Trump wins. I wish so many people on the left weren't so ignorant and/or downright stupid.


It's remarkable; isn't it? If he wins, they'll get the president they don't deserve. Things will be better, or atleast not as bad as they could;ve been, and they'll be none the wiser as he actually advances various causes thye, ostensibly at least, cared about.
 
You're a clown. This is a national debate. Your nutjob party is the one passing these sick laws.
There are ads on television stations all across America addressing this very issue.
Sounds like you are one of those MAGAs that loves to talk big about abortion and pass laws with no exceptions but don't like hearing the disgusting stories of the effects of those laws on little children.
Or as you like to call pregnant 10 year old rape victims...."Mom".
Get over it or vote for a change in those laws. 🤢



So this child was allowed to have an abortion? If you’re trying to drum up support against illegals raping young girls, you have my full backing. Otherwise i’m not sure what your point is.
 
I still can't believe that the left actually thought he would casually forgetfully slip an N word slur during an interview with a major journalist.

It amazes me really what they think about run-of-the-mill conservatives who love this country.
He did.
 
Republicans in red states are pleading for the mindless MAGAts to stop with the insane conspiracy theories. The cult is like a brainless hive that just attacks whatever moves.... Even if what moves is trying to help them.
Idiots
Oh shut up. Mr. dEmOcRaCy!11!!
 
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Absolutely fascinating how an individual who rails so much against fascists and nazis seemingly embraces government bureaucracies being the arbiters of what or who is human. Ironic isn't? Must be a socialist thing. BTW, that is not what he is arguing and if you would have bothered reading his whole stupid diatribe, he was saying that fetus in the womb is not a human distinct from the mother. He then in Wile E Coyote fashion thought the IRS determination of being a dependent or having a social security number proved his thesis, while ignoring the scientific fact that a fetus has unique DNA separate and identifiable from the mothers. So no, his dumb twisted argument is not an argument on bureaucratic recognition for legal purposes but is in fact an argument if the unborn are even "humans" distinct from the mother. But this is par for the course with you two cartoons. You are so insufferably driven by your need to be right with your wildly inconsistent ideology, that you pervert, twist, and move goalposts to the point that you soon forget what your original argument was. I'm starting to wonder if you two are distinct individuals are separate from one another or do you carry the same social security number?
I mean you can ask him but that is indeed what he was arguing. The mother is inarguably a person with legal rights. The only way those wouldn’t trump the fetus’s is if it was a full legal person as well with equal rights to the mother’s. That legal status isn’t conferred until birth. If you want to move that line back through legislation you’re free to try, but that will bring with it many other legal entanglements, for instance the tax dependency issue he used as just one example. Government isn’t the arbiter of who is a “human”, but they are the arbiter of who has what legal status. A Palestinian in the occupied West Bank is unquestionably a “human”, but has no government and no legal status and no rights.
 
I’m still trying to figure out why we needed a moral justification for the cold war.


You'll apply it to current events like Ukraine in a heartbeat, but never to the historical context of past events you've mythologized in your head.
 
Dion. You don’t really care either way. I guarantee you Joe Biden has uttered the N word many many more times in his life than Trump. Yet you voted for Sleepy, and would have again, if he could have kept his vegetative state under wraps in the White House cellar a little longer.
And Trump has used it many more times than Biden. Plenty of former coworkers have said as much. A word isn't going to hurt anyone. It's what those who are willing to use the word represent.
 
I mean you can ask him but that is indeed what he was arguing. The mother is inarguably a person with legal rights. The only way those wouldn’t trump the fetus’s is if it was a full legal person as well with equal rights to the mother’s. That legal status isn’t conferred until birth. If you want to move that line back through legislation you’re free to try, but that will bring with it many other legal entanglements, for instance the tax dependency issue he used as just one example. Government isn’t the arbiter of who is a “human”, but they are the arbiter of who has what legal status. A Palestinian in the occupied West Bank is unquestionably a “human”, but has no government and no legal status and no rights.
Yet if someone murders that Palestinian if they happen to visit the US, the murderer would still go to prison. Murder of another human being is illegal regardless of what rights the individual has been deemed to posses by the US government. The argument is whether a fetus is a human being or not. Having its own separate DNA certainly points to the fact that it is its own individual and not just part of the mother. You can go to prison for destroying an eagle egg because anyone with common sense knows it will become an eagle. I'm pretty sure eagles don't have a social security number and I don't recall having the option to claim one as a dependent on my income taxes.
 


Yes it’s a problem. Its callled the Logan Act. Doesn’t matter what fantasy world Trump lives in, he’s not President. Putin is at war with one of our allies. Trump can’t be engaging in diplomacy with him. Jesus Christ.
 
So this child was allowed to have an abortion? If you’re trying to drum up support against illegals raping young girls, you have my full backing. Otherwise i’m not sure what your point is.
That child shouldn't have to travel hundreds of miles and be made to feel she is breaking the law in her state for wanting to get a rapist's baby out of her body.
 
Yet if someone murders that Palestinian if they happen to visit the US, the murderer would still go to prison. Murder of another human being is illegal regardless of what rights the individual has been deemed to posses by the US government. The argument is whether a fetus is a human being or not. Having its own separate DNA certainly points to the fact that it is its own individual and not just part of the mother. You can go to prison for destroying an eagle egg because anyone with common sense knows it will become an eagle. I'm pretty sure eagles don't have a social security number and I don't recall having the option to claim one as a dependent on my income taxes.
No they wouldn’t. Netanyahu and other Israeli officials are welcomed here with open arms. Speaking to Congress and presidential candidates. They aren’t arrested for murder when they step on our soil. Are you dumb?
 
No they wouldn’t. Netanyahu and other Israeli officials are welcomed here with open arms. Speaking to Congress and presidential candidates. They aren’t arrested for murder when they step on our soil. Are you dumb?
US soldiers aren't arrested for murder for acts committed during war. There are exceptions idiot. Are you dumb? No need to answer. The question was rhetorical.
 
Because the IRS does not determine if someone is human. They merely issue a social security number at birth, then you can claim them as a dependent. But you absolutely can deduct the medical expenses of pregnancy.
Illegals do not have social security numbers......Are they human?
Not sure why I have to explain this to another supposed adult, but here we are.
Excuse Me What GIF
Yes, many illegals have been issued SSN’s, along with pseudo identities. It part of the ruse to use them as voters.
 
US soldiers aren't arrested for murder for acts committed during war. There are exceptions idiot. Are you dumb? No need to answer. The question was rhetorical.
Israelis have been killing Palestinians for decades. They occupy their lands. Are you arguing they've been at war for almost a hundred years? Kinda changes the perspective on 10/7 then, doesn't it? No, they slaughter with impunity because they're outside the legal mechanisms that would hold them accountable. Not because it's allowed by war.
 
The Kommila puppet is exposed to the ignorant masses on 60 Minutes😯for causing the illegal invasion.

Most demo☭rats won't care because they are all brainwashed morons. But maybe a few still have a brain cell or two left?

Every interview she does is said to be “ending her campaign” or “the nail in the coffin” for her. Yet here we are with a race still too close to call when it should be an epic landslide for Trump.
 
Israelis have been killing Palestinians for decades. They occupy their lands. Are you arguing they've been at war for almost a hundred years? Kinda changes the perspective on 10/7 then, doesn't it? No, they slaughter with impunity because they're outside the legal mechanisms that would hold them accountable. Not because it's allowed by war.
Dude, you are totally changing the subject to something completely unrelated in order to avoid my point. Is this you Kamala?

Maybe I need to dumb it down for you. If an illegal alien from Mexico crosses the boarder and I shoot and kill him for no reason related to self defense, is that or is it not illegal? He has no social security number, isn't a dependent of any American citizen. By your logic he has no rights. But I would still be arrested for killing him without a justifiable cause. Right?
 
Dude, you are totally changing the subject to something completely unrelated in order to avoid my point. Is this you Kamala?

Maybe I need to dumb it down for you. If an illegal alien from Mexico crosses the boarder and I shoot and kill him for no reason related to self defense, is that or is it not illegal? He has no social security number, isn't a dependent of any American citizen. By your logic he has no rights. But I would still be arrested for killing him without a justifiable cause. Right?
No, he has the rights given to him by our Constitution when he enters the US. It specifies that all persons in the US have those rights. Not fetuses. Just not the rights reserved for citizens. Fly to Palestine, kill a Palestinian, then see what happens to you when you come home. Hint: nothing, unless Israel desires different.

I'm apparently not the one who needs it dumbed down.
 
No, he has the rights given to him by our Constitution when he enters the US. It specifies that all persons in the US have those rights. Not fetuses. Just not the rights reserved for citizens. Fly to Palestine, kill a Palestinian, then see what happens to you when you come home. Hint: nothing, unless Israel desires different.

I'm apparently not the one who needs it dumbed down.
I'm not talking about Palestine. I couldn't give two shits what happens there. I'm talking about the US where I'm a citizen. And yes, as soon as you are on US soil you have the right not to be murdered. A fetus in the US is on US soil, therefore has the same right not to be murdered, whether it has a social security number or not is meaningless, which is the point you were trying to argue.
 
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