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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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There was even a group of democrats BEFORE jan 6 who similarity war-gamed the plausibility of it; for THEM to do it through the house had Trump won.
No, there's a constitutional process for objections through the House, not what Trump did.
 
total commie loon. he’s gonna bring in a bunch of votes from the moonbats


 
Dude….if you really think that bunch of goofballs roaming around the Capitol was trying be or capable of an overthrow, or that Trump could actually change election results, then you are the most clueless Liberal alive. We all know only your side screws with the votes anyway. I doubt any Liberal today has ever even read the Constitution. You still think abortions and health insurance are guaranteed by it.

And after the shit you guys just pulled getting Harris anointed, don’t even mention the word Democracy ever again either.
Same question for you as all the rest. What would have happened had Pence just said yes to what Trump wanted him to do, read out his fake electors instead of the real ones and just gavel him reelected when he wasn't? Kamal Harris is the current VP. You think she should be able to just acknowledge her own fake electors on Jan 6th and crown herself president, no matter if she loses the election?
 
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It’s not a matter of agreeing, his take applies no matter how many times you rewrite the law because he’s making a constitutional argument that would supersede that, in his mind a non-justiciable one. I don’t want Kamala to copy what Trump did, but she could. And it would lead to the same constitutional crisis. If we don’t punish that crap it'll happen again, and y’all are saying not only should he not be prosecuted but you’re going to vote for him to be president again. It's insanity.

If Kamala could make the same legal argument, you’re acknowledging a legal argument exists. Imprisoning people so they don’t make the legal argument is the constitutional crisis.

If Eastman was wrong enough to be imprisoned for his error in analysis, why would anyone be worried about a constitutional crisis?
 
Trump/Eastman's plan was to delay the vote so that they could raise a stink and say that the time for the vote had passed and that the election must be sent to the House. That was the plan on Jan 6. That's the plan this year. They want to get it to the House. You can minimize it all you want. They wanted to force a delay so that the Electoral votes couldn't be counted. That was always the plan. Get the election into the House.
That was one of the backup plans because any way they could get it to a contingent election in the House he'd win. But the main plan was just screw all that noise, have Pence just acknowledge Trump's fake electors instead of the real ones and gavel him president. They lay it out themselves in the Eastman memos. It was never seriously on the table in implementation because Pence refused, but that was the plan. All the rest with the mob and such was backup to muddy the waters and either get him removed for Chuck Grassley or get it delayed for a contingency election. You're right they'd love a contingency election and that's the current avenue since Pence failed them, but they wanted and tried an even more direct one.
 
Yeah, because some people didn't go along with it. And Trump sicced a mob on his own VP for that. This time he has toadies around him and so that failsafe has fallen. So one of the gates of Hell has been unlocked and it's on to the next. The military is on that list. And he is its commander-in-chief, as you point out.


What now? You think Trump is going to take control of the military and seize office if loses in November? You are a goddam lunatic.
 
Here's the cool thing, regardless of what anyone thinks. Our system works and the US is too decentralized for any such thing to seriously happen.

Another strike against support for big government and a centralized planner.
Bull. We were one evangelical away from it failing completely just a few years ago. That's what this whole conversation has been about.
 
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What now? You think Trump is going to take control of the military and seize office if loses in November? You are a goddam lunatic.
Not now, had Pence followed through for him then. Or if the toadies he's surrounded himself with this time do it for him in 2028.
 
It's funny to hear in one breath "look at these rednecks/boomers thinking they can do anything" and then in another breath "January 6th was a real threat!".

Which is it?

Trump had one or two quotes which at worst *might* have enraged some of these people passed a tipping point, when in reality, it was just a bunch of really pissed off people on the right (admittedly, fairly radicalized right folks) who, after the last 10 years of having their religion spat in it's face (abortions/gay marriage), that we must let in illegals, that they're racists, that they need to forgive student loans/reparations, that it's OK to watch cities burn... just collectively lost it. One person died, some minor damage was done to a single building, the Capitol, and it was over by dinner time.

Trump wasn't there, He tweeted for them to go home, there were riots doing far more damage to cities and homes, and he's far from the first politician to wink-wink a "possible" message across his voter base. Kamala herself backed and funded the efforts to release criminals for rioting during these protests.

So what the **** are we talking about here?
The fake electors he asked his VP to read out instead of the real ones. Go back and read all the posts. I've been chastised repeatedly for talking about it too much, should be plenty there.
 
Friedman was amazing and should be mandatory reading and viewing in school.



Definitely weird lol.



Who could predict fetterman would go from literal brain damage to someone who actually has some degree of independent thought.
Fetterman is still brain damaged.

It just shows you a literal retard is a better decision maker than a liberal.
 
If Kamala could make the same legal argument, you’re acknowledging a legal argument exists. Imprisoning people so they don’t make the legal argument is the constitutional crisis.

If Eastman was wrong enough to be imprisoned for his error in analysis, why would anyone be worried about a constitutional crisis?
Someone can make the legal argument of 'I'm a sovereign citizen because of maritime law blah blah (insert sovereign citizen rant)' but that doesn't make it right or keep their asses from getting thrown in jail. If Kamala just takes the actions Trump told Pence to a constitutional crisis will occur. Just like his would've precipitated. Whatever laws or legal arguments are out there. Calling your criminal plotting a different name doesn't change the substance of the actions.
 
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The fake electors he asked his VP to read out instead of the real ones. Go back and read all the posts. I've been chastised repeatedly for talking about it too much, should be plenty there.

Even IF all that is true, these people acted on their own. This was brewing for quite a while. It's just silly for the left to keep hanging onto this without any real proof or logical reasoning that Trump caused this.

If Trump caused Jan 6th then Biden/Kamala caused the hundreds of race riots. A single tweet isn't the difference maker here.

And as I've continued to say, if the left didn't care about the summer Riots in 2020, then they don't get to pick the one time the right fought back, as the time to say "Riots are bad". If you wanted to make a big deal out if Jan 6th, your side shouldn't have been so quiet for all the Riots before (or worse, even encouraging it as some did).
 
WKYT weather on 4 pm show today is forecasting record lows for two days this week. Global warming is freezing my ass off.
It's funny how the so called climate experts don't talk about this kind of thing. I remember just a few months ago they said it would be the hottest summer in history. We had a decent hot stretch in early June but this summer has had many cool and rainy days. Not even close to the hottest ever.
 
yep. libs might say they care about immigration, inflation and the economy but come time to vote—it’s all about “orange man bad,” issues be damned
There is an old saying that fits. Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. People who are taught to emote in the place of reasoning, are the easiest people to manipulate and control. You can literally manipulate them into voting against their own self-interest.
 
WKYT weather on 4 pm show today is forecasting record lows for two days this week. Global warming is freezing my ass off.
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The top 2 lines are for 2023 and 2024.

There are some interesting things about this graph.
1) The steady increases in temps from the bottom to the top.
2) The huge gap between the 2023 red line and the rest.
3) And, finally, the continued high temps represented by the black line of 2024.

You can see the steady small increases over time from 1850 to the present. Then, in 2023, there was a preposterous increase over all the rest. Half a degree! That large increase has gobsmacked and frightened scientists who don't know why there such a huge increase. Other scientists have said that the consensus was too cautious and that there were large increases coming. Some models have inflection points where temps just take off. The consensus has been that there would be no inflection or only a slight one. Many scientists pointed out that there was an El Nino in 2023. That was what they pinned their explanations of the increase on. In El Nino events, the ocean overturning brings heat that is trapped in deeper waters to the surface. And as a result, there's an increase in global atmospheric temps. When the El Nino disappeared in the winter, scientists thought, temps would return to normal. Then, 2024 came, the El Nino left, and temps continued to be record high. And not just by a small amount.
 
What would the constitutional argument be that would allow him to stay in office?
That the 22nd doesn't apply to consecutive terms. Or whatever else they have in the works for this time; making up fake electors in secret meeting with fake documents like they did wasn't widely foreseen four years before they cooked it up.
 
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Even IF all that is true, these people acted on their own. This was brewing for quite a while. It's just silly for the left to keep hanging onto this without any real proof or logical reasoning that Trump caused this.

If Trump caused Jan 6th then Biden/Kamala caused the hundreds of race riots. A single tweet isn't the difference maker here.

And as I've continued to say, if the left didn't care about the summer Riots in 2020, then they don't get to pick the one time the right fought back, as the time to say "Riots are bad". If you wanted to make a big deal out if Jan 6th, your side shouldn't have been so quiet for all the Riots before (or worse, even encouraging it as some did).
What? Trump himself was the leader of the fake elector plot. He was in all the meetings, all the communications were to him. It was just him and his lawyers and the team they personally put together to do this. The fake electors have testified in court about how they were approached by Trump's lawyers.

This has nothing to do with riots. The storming of the Capitol on Jan 6th was one small backup plan part of the coup plot. Please stop comparing Trump's fake elector coup to a riot. The actual mob on Jan 6th was not ever the main problem, just the most visible part.
 
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The top 2 lines are for 2023 and 2024.

There are some interesting things about this graph.
1) The steady increases in temps from the bottom to the top.
2) The huge gap between the 2023 red line and the rest.
3) And, finally, the continued high temps represented by the black line of 2024.

You can see the steady small increases over time from 1850 to the present. Then, in 2023, there was a preposterous increase over all the rest. Half a degree! That large increase has gobsmacked and frightened scientists who don't know why there such a huge increase. Other scientists have said that the consensus was too cautious and that there were large increases coming. Some models have inflection points where temps just take off. The consensus has been that there would be no inflection or only a slight one. Many scientists pointed out that there was an El Nino in 2023. That was what they pinned their explanations of the increase on. In El Nino events, the ocean overturning brings heat that is trapped in deeper waters to the surface. And as a result, there's an increase in global atmospheric temps. When the El Nino disappeared in the winter, scientists thought, temps would return to normal. Then, 2024 came, the El Nino left, and temps continued to be record high. And not just by a small amount.
What I bet Dreadlox looks like when writing this.
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The 1.45 billion dollar figure for NYC illegal immigrant expenses was published as of the 9th of August 2023 for at most the first 6 months of 2023, and was for a total number of immigrants only "approaching 100k" and not for 175k. It could've been lower than 75k at that point, but even using 90k the city would've been spending about $2700 per migrant per month at the time.

That's why they expected at that time for it to be between 9 billion and 12 billion dollars by the end of 2025 at that time. They were expecting at most 100k people. They weren't expecting to be at 175k or more and they're NOT going to publish those figures accurately during an election year. They do not want that faucet turned off because too many people of influence have their hands in that pie.

Distorting even the underreported figures and timeline is expected of democrats excusing and seeking to minimize the destruction they've brought upon themselves and this country and just confirms how much they will lie to support their abusive policies.
You and the Republicans have some valid points about the border and immigration policy. Most Americans feel that the border was a mess for most of Biden's term until just recently when he pulled the EO out of his ass.
The problem is that Americans also saw what Trump and the Pubs did when there was a legit border bill that was written by a Republican and had Dem support. They trashed it because Trump told them to.
So the border isn't the winning card you might think it is with knowledgeable center right leaning voters and Independents.
The Pub border bill failure, abortion, booming stocks, low unemployment, stable gas prices, lowering inflation, positive GDP and increased manufacturing are all net positives for Kamala.
Couple that with Trump's name calling, non stop negativity and bashing/trashing of America.... It's no wonder people are now drawn to Harris and her positivity.
His schtick is old and tired just like he is.
Nobody wants to hear Debbie Downer another 4 years.
 
Barbara Comstock saying she is voting for Harris because of a lot of Trump supporters standing outside the White House and a small percentage of them going in along with some non- Trump supporters going in. She just can't vote for Trump because of the handful of people that went in.

She had no comment about the border being open for four years for gangsters, rapists, terrorists, child molesters, criminals, killers and drug dealers raiding our country. And nothing to say about the million that has died because of drugs being let in and a lot of Americans killed and raped from Biden and Harris allowing this. Also, no comment on throwing Biden out as President. In addition, no comment on the trillion dollars spent from the Biden/Harris administration that was the biggest cause for inflation blowing out of control subjecting Americans to becoming poorer to the point a lot cannot eat out even at a fast food or afford half the groceries they need to not be hungry. And finally, she did not comment on those in charge of the education system shielding students, as young as elementary kids, from their parents and trying to help them if they want to change their sex without a parent consent.

She also did not comment on the Harris plan to control food prices that will lead to food shortages and even higher prices like Argentina and Russia tried and Venezuela is currently doing. Also, no mention of the amnesty of all illegals that Harris is for so they can get benefits like Americans have and drive the benefits sky high. So she can have a medical insurance for all and you will have to have the doctor you don't want and have to wait in long lines for appointments. She also said she wants to let all illegals out of detention centers day 1 even if they can't be vetted. Comstock also had no comment on the wars going on and it being the most dangerous time in history of World War 3 breaking out that will put us directly in the middle of the world war with us being the superpower. No mention of the possibility of thousands of young service members losing their lives just because the Harris administration has no domestic or foreign skills to help keep this from happening.

Also, no comment on Harris wanting to abolish ICE and start from scratch. In addition, she wants to take patents from the drug companies that will not lower prices. When asked about the possibility of those drug companies not making life saving drugs for diabetics for instance, no comment. She just said she could do it herself if she was president, even if it means millions will die not being able to get the drugs they need.
 
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Barbara Comstock saying she is voting for Harris because of a lot of Trump supports standing outside the White House and a small percentage of them going in along with some non- Trump supporters going in. She just can't vote for Trump because of the handful of people that went in.

She had no comment about the border being open for four years for gangsters, rapists, terrorists, child molesters, criminals, killers and drug dealers raiding our country. And nothing to say about the million that has died because of drugs being let in and a lot of Americans killed and raped from Biden and Harris allowing this. Also, no comment on throwing Biden out as President. In addition, no comment on the trillion dollars spent from the Biden/Harris administration that was the biggest cause for inflation blowing out of control subjecting Americans to becoming poorer to the point a lot cannot eat out even at a fast food or afford half the groceries they need to not be hungry. And finally, she did not comment on those in charge of the education system shielding students, as young as elementary kids, from their parents and trying to help them if they want to change their sex without a parent consent.

She also did not comment on the Harris plan to control food prices that will lead to food shortages and even higher prices like Argentina and Russia tried and Venezuela is currently doing. Also, no mention of the amnesty of all illegals that Harris is for so they can get benefits like Americans have and drive the benefits sky high. So she can have a medical insurance for all and you will have to have the doctor you don't want and have to wait in long lines for appointments. She also said she wants to let all illegals out of detention centers day 1 even if they can't be vetted. Comstock also had no comment on the wars going on and it being the most dangerous time in history of World War 3 breaking out that will put us directly in the middle of the world war with us being the superpower. No mention of the possibility of thousands of young service members losing their lives just because the Harris administration has no domestic or foreign skills to help keep this from happening.

Also, no comment on Harris wanting to abolish ICE and start from scratch. In addition, she wants to take patents from the drug companies that will not lower prices. When asked about the possibility of those drug companies not making life saving drugs for diabetics for instance, no comment. She just said she could do it herself if she was president, even if it means millions will die not being able to get the drugs they need.

 
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