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MAGA eating their own over lack of purity:
"Now the Wisconsin Elections Commission has to determine whether Republican Assembly Leader Robin Vos will face a recall election based on signatures gathered by . . . other Republicans.
The commission has until June 28 to rule on whether Mr. Vos’s critics have gathered enough signatures to force a recall. An earlier recall attempt failed in April after falling short of the 6,850 signature threshold, but revenge is a Trumpworld staple. The plan is to force the Assembly Speaker to face a recall election only months before his normal election race in November.
You can’t get much politically dumber than this. The recall effort is the brainchild of Trump supporters, including former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, who are upset with Mr. Vos for not decertifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory in Wisconsin, and for refusing to oust state election official Meagan Wolfe. Mr. Trump lost the state by some 20,000 votes while running behind down-ballot Republicans."
"Rational forces are not at work here. Mr. Vos hired Mr. Gableman in 2021 to lead an investigation into the 2020 results, which found no wrongdoing but racked up more than $1 million in legal bills for taxpayers. Mr. Vos said Mr. Gableman’s investigation had been “an embarrassment to the state” and called him “a moron.” Mr. Gableman claimed his first anti-Vos signature petition was “sabotaged.”
The real victims in this fiasco are Wisconsin voters who have to watch state GOP leaders burn resources attacking each other. Mr. Vos’s time is occupied fending off a pointless revenge play instead of raising money for other Republicans now drawn into unfavorable districts by the new maps.
Even if the anti-Vos signatures are approved, the recall would be held at the tail end of Mr. Vos’s current term. He is likely to be re-elected in November regardless, but other Republicans may not be so lucky."
"Now the Wisconsin Elections Commission has to determine whether Republican Assembly Leader Robin Vos will face a recall election based on signatures gathered by . . . other Republicans.
The commission has until June 28 to rule on whether Mr. Vos’s critics have gathered enough signatures to force a recall. An earlier recall attempt failed in April after falling short of the 6,850 signature threshold, but revenge is a Trumpworld staple. The plan is to force the Assembly Speaker to face a recall election only months before his normal election race in November.
You can’t get much politically dumber than this. The recall effort is the brainchild of Trump supporters, including former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, who are upset with Mr. Vos for not decertifying Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory in Wisconsin, and for refusing to oust state election official Meagan Wolfe. Mr. Trump lost the state by some 20,000 votes while running behind down-ballot Republicans."
"Rational forces are not at work here. Mr. Vos hired Mr. Gableman in 2021 to lead an investigation into the 2020 results, which found no wrongdoing but racked up more than $1 million in legal bills for taxpayers. Mr. Vos said Mr. Gableman’s investigation had been “an embarrassment to the state” and called him “a moron.” Mr. Gableman claimed his first anti-Vos signature petition was “sabotaged.”
The real victims in this fiasco are Wisconsin voters who have to watch state GOP leaders burn resources attacking each other. Mr. Vos’s time is occupied fending off a pointless revenge play instead of raising money for other Republicans now drawn into unfavorable districts by the new maps.
Even if the anti-Vos signatures are approved, the recall would be held at the tail end of Mr. Vos’s current term. He is likely to be re-elected in November regardless, but other Republicans may not be so lucky."
All of which cries out for competition. Vote for the amendment if you want better outcomes for our children and teachers.
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Panel: Douglas judge guilty of 'systemic incompetence'
She must go. That’s the unanimous recommendation from a hearing panel investigating Douglas County Probate Judge Christina Peterson.
You're an F-ing joke. Of course we argue with the non-conservative MAGA groupies here. Net (get that?), not being MAGA is the way to be conservative.
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National polls have directionally moved Biden's way over the last two weeks or so.
National : President: general election : 2024 Polls
The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight.
I'll wait for the MAGA comments that I'm supposedly happy about that.
Vegas odds of Biden winning these states:
TX: +500
FL: +500
NC: +185
NV: +145
GA: +140
AZ: +125
WI: +110
PA: -100
MI: -145
NM: -420
MN: -475
VA: -550
NH: -625
ME: -640
NJ: -3400
Think as of now, pretty accurate.
TX: +500
FL: +500
NC: +185
NV: +145
GA: +140
AZ: +125
WI: +110
PA: -100
MI: -145
NM: -420
MN: -475
VA: -550
NH: -625
ME: -640
NJ: -3400
Think as of now, pretty accurate.
No, Trump Did Not Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People'
Trump's remarks about the deadly Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally in 2017 remain controversial.
www.snopes.com
Unemployed politicians are just employed lobbyists. So if you think that’s better, okay.
Those are the ones that matter. The bold pluses would give Trump about 278 EV's assuming rest of 2020 stays fixed. RCP gives Trump all of the bold, but I believe bettors.
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Saw a little of Parks and Rec episode this morning, at one point Ron Swanson asks "Is Stars Wars the one with the little wizard boy?"
And a minute later he is talking about he only signs his name on some steakhouse card or something, but he gives a fake name "Les...Les Vegetables"
Saw a little of Parks and Rec episode this morning, at one point Ron Swanson asks "Is Stars Wars the one with the little wizard boy?"
And a minute later he is talking about he only signs his name on some steakhouse card or something, but he gives a fake name "Les...Les Vegetables"
Biden holed up with his staff at Camp David. Trying to come up with the perfect drug cocktail to make him coherent for an hour and a half next week. Trump out doing rallies in supposedly anti-Trump locations. Interacting with the people. Pretty much the same campaigns we got last time.
Trumps not winning Arizona. The corrupt are too dug in. Michigan the same. His only chance is to eke out Ga, Wis, Nv, NC. Not sure he will win any of those honestly.
Those aren't enough w/o AZ unless he gets PA or MI. He already won NC twice.
Yeah. I haven’t done the math. I just know he’s not winning AZ Or MI. PA Dems fraud game too strong too. I will honestly be surprised if he wins any of the swing states. The Dems especially with Biden don’t really campaign. They harvest ballots.
LGBTQ is a taxable organization and not just a bunch of letters identifying a movement?
And if there is an LGBTQ organization to donate to that has a specific flag, along with BLM, are they not a 501c3 and thus not taxed? If not their organizers are stupid.
it’s hard to feel confident about this election after all the corruption we’ve seen since ‘20. hopin’ and prayin’
Robinson is not a bad candidate. He speaks honestly and with common sense. He’s just painted poorly by the media in every way because of his affiliation with Trump.
This country is going to hell in a GD hand-basket immediately if not sooner. Jesus, what the hell is wrong with those Democrat SOBs?
They’re Democrats in name only. They’re actually Marxists. Following the orders of their leader Barry Obama.
He isn’t a bad candidate, he’s already won lt governor as a Republican while the state elected a Democrat gov.
This narrative building is what’s bad, likely by the same person under different screen names, you make it too obvious.
I don't trust polls in general, still found this interesting:
In a 9 poll average Trump is up +0.9.
On this same date in 2020 as you can see the average was Biden +10.2, and 8 years ago on this date the average was Hillary +5.9.
This Day In History: June 23, 2020: Biden +10.2 | June 23, 2016: Clinton +5.9
In a 9 poll average Trump is up +0.9.
On this same date in 2020 as you can see the average was Biden +10.2, and 8 years ago on this date the average was Hillary +5.9.
This Day In History: June 23, 2020: Biden +10.2 | June 23, 2016: Clinton +5.9
| pollster | date | sample | moe | Trump (R) | Biden (D) | spread |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RCP Average | 6/3 - 6/21 | — | — | 46.1 | 45.2 | Trump+0.9 |
| CBS News | 6/17 - 6/21 | 1881 RV | 3.4 | 50 | 49 | Trump+1 |
| Rasmussen Reports | 6/20 - 6/20 | 1000 LV | 3.0 | 49 | 40 | Trump+9 |
| FOX News | 6/14 - 6/17 | 1095 RV | 3.0 | 48 | 50 | Biden+2 |
| Morning Consult | 6/14 - 6/16 | 10132 RV | 1.0 | 43 | 44 | Biden+1 |
| NPR/PBS/Marist | 6/10 - 6/12 | 1184 RV | 3.8 | 49 | 49 | Tie |
| Reuters/Ipsos | 6/10 - 6/11 | 930 RV | 3.0 | 41 | 39 | Trump+2 |
| Daily Kos/Civiqs | 6/8 - 6/11 | 1140 RV | 3.1 | 45 | 45 | Tie |
| Yahoo News | 6/3 - 6/6 | 1239 RV | — | 44 | 46 | Biden+2 |
| Emerson | 6/4 - 6/5 | 1000 RV | 3.0 | 46 | 45 | Trump+1 |
His lead was a blip that faded as soon as he got it. Yes noone thought Trump would win either I never said anyone thought he would win. Try again
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