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When you scratch deep enough on any of these conspiracy people it’s always Christianity under there. I guess when you believe in an all-powerful and all-benevolent god you have to invent reasons why the world is so messed up just to square it in your head.
False. Your obsession with Christians has reached TDS levels. Watch out, you might be put back on my Karens list.
 
Many associate Marxism with an abolition of private property and normalization of compensation. Soviets confiscating mansions and giving a room to every family. Paying doctors the same as ditch diggers. I catch heat here for associating myself with Marx and not rejecting that rhetoric out-of-hand, but I do not and have not advocated for any of that.

What I advocate for is simply a floor and a ceiling. Most advanced nations on earth have a social safety net floor to support those who fall through the cracks. It varies from country to country, but it is a generally agreed upon economic benefit to support the least fortunate so that they can have a stable platform to use to become more productive. America does it. The issue with ours is that there are many bureaucratic hoops to jump through to qualify, which just wastes time for the person involved managing their benefits instead of improving their skill set for working. Combine that with the loss of benefits when you pass a certain income threshold and it means you actually do worse for more effort, creating a ‘welfare trap’.

I believe the answer to this is normalization of benefits. Give everyone a basic minimal sum. No hoops to jump through and so no giant government bureaucracies to monitor them. Everyone has enough for basic low-income housing and potatoes. Now people have no excuse. If they squander that all of society knows they did and they have no one to blame but themselves. But the real working poor don’t have to worry as much about putting food on the table or navigating complicated government programs. They can put time into improving their skill set for society and their personal lives for themselves.

How do we pay for that? Well that’s always the rub, but the short answer is two ways. The first being the massive cutting in unelected government workers that currently administer all these disparate programs. We piss away so much money and time monitoring compliance for no benefit. I mean in most countries you don’t even have to file your stupid taxes, it’s done automatically.

The second source of funding being the aforementioned ceiling. The median net worth in America is about 120k. If you have a million dollars in personal wealth you’re doing pretty well. Not struggling. A million dollars is a lot of money. Now compare that to Bill Gates. He has around 100 billion roughly. The Staircase Analogy:

We’re on step one. A millionaire is on step ten less than halfway to the second floor. Bill Gates is on the 47,600th floor. Everyone should agree that is completely absurd and not an efficient distribution of resources. That money should be reinvested in society to allow others to prosper like he did. No one person, regardless of what they do or make, is worth that much more than another.
First, what is the criteria for that "safety net floor" you say everybody gets their UBI, does that include everybody, even those who don't need it? Or is there an income cutoff before the UBI goes away? Then what incentive do those getting this "safety net" have to get out from under that safety net? Why should a lazy but able bodied schmuck, content with his UBI, be allowed to just be a mooch on the system without some sort of work requirement?
Then there's that "ceiling" what floor is that ceiling? 3rd floor? 5th floor? 100th floor? need to define that. because what's going to be anyone's incentive to continue to innovate, create jobs, and invest in the overall economy of the country once they reach their ceiling?
 
False. Your obsession with Christians has reached TDS levels. Watch out, you might be put back on my Karens list.
Warrior I love ya man but you have a serious blind spot for any faults in who you consider your own people. Leftists are in general fractious, ineffective, humorless know-it-alls more concerned with theory than practice. I experience that daily interacting in those circles. And that’s just actual leftists, liberals and Democrats are worse. Can you give a similar laundry list of faults with the majority of Christians or the right?
 
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When you scratch deep enough on any of these conspiracy people it’s always Christianity under there. I guess when you believe in an all-powerful and all-benevolent god you have to invent reasons why the world is so messed up just to square it in your head.
Lol…you don’t know me.

Probably the biggest lie inthis world is cloaked in religion. Religion is just another measure for them to control you. Took me 2 1/2 years to figure it out, but boy have I figured it out. But as far as God, I have never been more convinced of Him being real as am at this moment in my life. I definitely know why Satan has to lie and deceive. If we knew the truth, he wouldn’t stand a chance.
 
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If Christians were perfect, there would be no need for Christ. I checked into a Nashville hotel once and the guy at the desk said the Baptist preacher convention checking out was the drinkingest cussingest group they had ever had. We and especially me fall woefully short and that's why we need Christ.
 
First, what is the criteria for that "safety net floor" you say everybody gets their UBI, does that include everybody, even those who don't need it? Or is there an income cutoff before the UBI goes away? Then what incentive do those getting this "safety net" have to get out from under that safety net? Why should a lazy but able bodied schmuck, content with his UBI, be allowed to just be a mooch on the system without some sort of work requirement?
Then there's that "ceiling" what floor is that ceiling? 3rd floor? 5th floor? 100th floor? need to define that. because what's going to be anyone's incentive to continue to innovate, create jobs, and invest in the overall economy of the country once they reach their ceiling?
Several different questions here. I’ll address as many as I can quickly. Yes Universal Basic Income is for all. Universal. Roughly a thousand a month is mostly irrelevant to those who are doing well, they’ll be paying in far more than they take out. Everyone will still have to work for all the things they want, we’re talking about a basic subsistence amount. As for the ceiling that’s up for debate. I personally feel a 90% tax rate on everything above fifty or a hundred million seems appropriate. By that point you’re not just doing well, you’re really really rich and have no more material issues whatsoever. You get a plaque with “I won capitalism!” on it and you can do whatever with your money to your heart’s content. The rest is reinvested into the society that allowed you to prosper. Obviously that’s just my opinion.
 
Warrior I love ya man but you have a serious blind spot for any faults in who you consider your own people. Leftists are in general fractious, ineffective, humorless know-it-alls more concerned with theory than practice. I experience that daily interacting in those circles. And that’s just actual leftists, liberals and Democrats are worse. Can you give a similar laundry list of faults with the majority of Christians or the right?
No blind spot at all. I see things everyday that people who say they are Christians do that could be seen as wrong depending on your point of view. I also consider all people my people since God created all things. But that does not mean I will not oppose them or let them know when I think they are wrong. Now as far as faults, what some see as faults Christians consider the will of God. But I will also say that some Christians are judgmental, sanctimonious, unyielding (obeying Gods Laws notwithstanding) and some seem to think they are above criticism. The problem I have with religion not Christianity is that many think their religion in Christianity because of differences in understanding the text is the end all be all which is the reason we have so many. (Satan attacks the church with the intent to divide)

Now, I have said many things on here that would have those who do not believe questioning my faith based on a lack of their understanding of the Bible (God's Word). I am no saint and sin as do many others but also understand that these sins are forgiven with sincere repentance and forgiveness ask of God. I believe most Christians live this way and understand that.
 
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Because it's a fetus and it's a feticide law. They don't make an exception in the homicide law for a mother's abortion choice, they make it in the feticide law. You understand now?

My personal position is irrelevant to the debate other than giving my opinion. The abortion debate is about when a fetus becomes a person with legal rights. Like that of not being murdered. Currently that line is at birth. You can endeavor to move that line but at the moment it is where it is.
I understand, it's still the killing of an unborn child, regardless of your twisting.
 
Lol…you don’t know me.

Probably the biggest lie inthis world is cloaked in religion. Religion is just another measure for them to control you. Took me 2 1/2 years to figure it out, but boy have I figured it out. But as far as God, I have never been more convinced of Him being real as am at this moment in my life. I definitely know why Satan has to lie and deceive. If we knew the truth, he wouldn’t stand a chance.
Why? If you recognize organized religion as the sham it is why does that not extend to God Himself? It’s the same grift.
 
When you scratch deep enough on any of these conspiracy people it’s always Christianity under there. I guess when you believe in an all-powerful and all-benevolent god you have to invent reasons why the world is so messed up just to square it in your head.
Imagine if you’d said Judaism.
 
Yes it could, as designated in the specific law. Just like it’s illegal to kill endangered animals and they aren’t “human life”.
“Kill”.

We don’t kill things that aren’t alive. Again, this is torturous logic that you’re trying to apply.

A fetus is a living human being. I can agree that the first few weeks are debatable but after that, you and I both know that life is occurring.
 
How much Spermicide have you committed in your lifetime?? The little guys are alive too.
Is hair alive until you cut it?

Trying to distract from the central
Premise- that shredding a functional and healthy human being in the womb is wrong- won’t hide the fact that, well, it’s wrong.
 
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“Kill”.

We don’t kill things that aren’t alive. Again, this is torturous logic that you’re trying to apply.

A fetus is a living human being. I can agree that the first few weeks are debatable but after that, you and I both know that life is occurring.
I’ve never debated whether a fetus is alive. Only when it gains legal status. As I said, sperm and unfertilized eggs are alive too.
 
Sounds like you’re an anti-Christian conspiracy theorist. That’s the point.
I’m anti all religions. Christianity is just the one I’m predominantly surrounded by so come into conflict with the most. If I was in Turkey right now I’d be doing the same to Islam. They’re famously not too fond of the Jewish people/religion either.
 
None of this should be tolerated. ZERO. No one should care what names they call you. These people are sick predators and deserve the gallows. It is clear you cannot coexist with this group. We tried. Doesn't work. We said "That's none of my business. You do what you want in your own personal life" yet they came after their opposition with lawsuit after lawsuit. They moved to wanting to be in the bathroom with little girls/women. They moved to play against girls in sports. They now declare pronouns, use "they/them" for a singular person, pretend men can get pregnant, got people who claim they're animals, talk pornography with your kids, and groom them.

This is a sick group of people. It's really a disgusting group and it has shown to be quite different than how they originally tried to push it to the public. These types are mentally ill perverts. Go ahead and call me names or ban my account. IDGAS because it's true.
 
Didn’t Graham bend over backwards to defend Trump on all issues, as well?
The only thing Lyndsey is good at is kissing whoever's a$$ to keep himself in office. Trump owns SC (same state Lyndsey got around 1% of the Presidential primary vote in) so he panders to Trump when it benefits him. Loves the cameras and will beg for donations when given the opportunity. When it comes to voting time, he has sided with the Dems more times than you can count including the recent spending bill. Complete fraud but for whatever reason SC still continues to give him a job in the Senate. Surely there is someone in that state who can run against him and win in the next Senate primary he runs in.
 
Sounds great. Imagine actually learning something other than "DATS RAYCIST!" "I'm a victim and you're an oppressor."

Here's a novel concept, morons. Read your racial fantasies and revisionist history on your own time and then run to Reddit for your posts. No one should have to sit through 24/7 indoctrination to satisfy their insecurities and diversity quotas because you can't compete in a meritocracy.
 
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