So you are now at least admitting to the soft coup? And your only counterpoint is that 1-6 was a hard coup?
Baby steps are better than no steps, I suppose.
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Baby steps are better than no steps, I suppose.
No. But none of that compares to a sitting president trying to overturn the election to stay in power. Do you think it does?
You do realize there were THOUSANDS of protesters there that day, correct? And only a small percentage were playing dress up.
Now compare that to the summer of destruction and try to tell me who the sane/insane people are again.
Everything he was attempting to do was under his constitutional powers.
Now do the Russian collusion hoax.
Glad I moved out of that city. Unfortunately I still have to work in it though. Louisville will vote themselves in some activist mayor the likes of Lori Lightfoot. The city is doomed.
Bullshit. He was trying to get his VP to set aside the election results to stay in power. If you think they have the constitutional power to do that, what’s to stop any president/VP from doing it in the future by that constitutional power? Any president could just ignore the election and stay in power indefinitely.
So a large number of people were there to protest peacefully and a small number of bad actors resorted to hooliganism? You've been comparing it to the BLM protests since it happened, but somehow don't extend that same argument? And for future reference I'm not upset with the hogs for going hog-wild. They do what they do. My ire is directly firmly where it should be, at the coup attempt made by the people in charge, not the gullible rubes who do their bidding.
Everything I stated actually happened. Joe Biden is still in the Whitehouse, therefore whatever attempt Trump made was lame at best. David Dorn's widow might beg to differ with your comparison.
I’m sorry - were businesses destroyed, buildings/cities burnt, people killed, livelihoods wrecked? No? Then there is no reason to extend the same argument BECAUSE THE END RESULTS ARE NOT REMOTELY COMPARABLE.
Watch the Dems try it in 2024 if Trump or DeSantis or another Republican wins. Will you condemn it then?
They absolutely have that power under the constitution if there is reason to believe the electors are fraudulent.
If what he did wasn’t constitutional/lawful, the democrat party of communists would’ve already had him in front of a firing squad.
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Constitutional scholars are already worrying about another January 6 crisis, and they warn that the next election might be harder to save.
I absolutely would. It's not going to happen. Will you condemn Trump and Jan 6th when it doesn't?
Please explain how an unarmed protest lasting a few hours that killed no one, damaged a little property, and where the participants left at curfew time was gonna overthrow the government?
Don’t fret though. Because of people like you, you’ll get to see what a real uprising looks like in the near future.
Leaked info showed Hillary and co pushing extremely hard to stop or change the ec vote. That's why states had to react by passing laws requiring the votes be consistent with election outcomes.
They'll absolutely try again. It's why they should never be allowed anywhere near power
No one tried to overthrow the government. You are not a serious person if you think they did. How many guns were used in this revolt?
Yeah definitely not sane people. I mean why would so many millennials change their all black clothes and face masks to Trump clothing and maga hats underneath a tree before breaking shit and fighting with cops. So weird.
Wait. Kavanaugh's confirmation. Democrats did an insurrection and you didn't say crap. That caused more damage than the FBI Jan 6th
He’s not a serious person. I should’ve know better than to engage the nonsense.
He didn't do it man. He refused. And had a rabid mob of "Hang Mike Pence!" Trumpers sicced on him for it. That's what we're talking about.
Just because he didn’t do it doesn’t make it unconstitutional. Just makes him a p*ssy-a$$ b*tch.
Everything that happened was legal (other than many of the people entering the building).
Congress was following the process of certifying the election, including the right to debate each individual state’s electors.
Arizona was legally being debated in both houses of Congress, when everything stopped due to the “breach”.
Who benefited from the live, televised debate being stopped?
Have you completely missed all the times we've gone over it in this thread over the last year? The Capitol storming was just a last ditch effort to apply some real world pressure to Pence. The coup attempt was having Pence unilaterally set aside EC votes from contested states, thereby denying both candidates the requisite 270 which would kick the election to the House keeping Trump in power. It's all laid out in the Eastman memos. They had meetings about it literally in the Oval Office. All of this is public knowledge, you don't have to take my word for it. Go google it. Or wait until Nancy puts on her show with the committee.
It is though, otherwise any election could be set aside unilaterally. The Electoral Count Act of 1887 even attempted to remove any ambiguity on the topic after it was abused in the 1876 election.
I won't condemn Trump for thinking thinking he was voted out through fraudulent means. He had a myriad of reasons to believe that was the case and made a half-assed attempt to rectify it. Obviously he was wildly unsuccessful at it and we still have the moron dementia patient in the Whitehouse actively destroying the very fabric of our society.
I have never condoned what happened on Jan. 6th. it was a riot. Nothing more, should have never happened. The unarmed idiots that entered the Capitol were no more going to "overthrow" the Government than the man in the moon.
And the pussification of America continues
Well I think even you would agree that the Antifa /BLM riots caused way more death and destruction than what happened on Jan 6. I mean it’s not even comparable.
Yeah , it’s a great idea to make race or gender a determining factor to choose EMS, cops, firefighters, and other people who literally may have to save someone’s life one day
No that isn’t what he was trying to do, simply have Pence say the election was fraudulent and push it aside. What didn’t happen due to the “ riot” was States being contested in the house abd senate, which would them present the evidence gathered in state legislative hearings. AFTER that, if the evidence is compelling the VP can send it to the House to vote on President, each state gets one vote. That is exactly how the Constitution lays out to handle it.
State Sec of States ignored or altered their voting laws, that directly opposes the US constitution. Therefore that election is unconstitutional.
And what’s funny is - all the stuff you are discussing was talked about openly, in advance.
Even the msm made efforts to discuss the constitutionality of the process.
Which is why, if you think critically, it makes sense to question who was actually behind the “storming” of the capitol.
Trump & Co. made no secret that they planned to use every legal avenue they had to try and stop the certification of the election.
What benefit was it, to them, to disrupt that process by illegally entering the Capitol building?
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