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No. Cannot agree. YPE, you may have noticed, I'm running the committee on "The Media is Blatantly Unfair and Our Democracy Suffers For It." Right there with you. The MSM keeps it's hand on the scales. Yes, fully agreed. The Republican always bears the brunt of that - always. Fully agreed.
But what they are doing to Trump (which many of us predicted and was entirely predictable) is unprecedented. They have declared war on Trump in a way that we've not seen before with another R. If Kasich or Romney or any number of others would have been the R nominee, the media would have favored Clinton - but not like this. She is such a weak candidate = the second weakest I can recall to be honest. A lot of people would have voted R, including many people who haven't ever voted R.
Note to Willie and others - again, I'm not saying that Kasich or Rubio or Romney would have been a good President, or would not have let people down. I'm just talking about winning the damn election and not suffering some sort of sunami down ticket.
Now, one caveat to all that: you may be right in that there are a group of people who are so disgusted by politics as usual that they would not have voted for Romney or Rubio or Kasich. It may be that all the votes from the middle that another candidate would get that Trump cannot get, are effectively canceled out by votes from the right that Trump will get that another candidate could not. Who can know the math on that. I suspect there aren't enough "No one but Trump" voters to make it true......
Donuts, cakes, pies, ice creams, etc... He'll be there by end of holiday season 2016.
If Hillary were the one trailing by 5 and sinking, you'd prob hear lots of wails and screams about bernie, Biden, and warren
Agreed. Biden would have won but he wasn't allowed to run due to Clinton already being promised the presidency back in 2008.
Our best bet was Scott Walker and he dropped out early. The rest were filled with people who had no chance as well as shills that Dems on here kept preaching to nominate like Kasich or Bush.
Bernie had no shot. He may have won college kids and the welfare state but Dems with money wouldn't have voted for him.
The same one he had prior, to the last debate.
You guys are simply thinking this is going to be like prior elections with the bases. It isn't, as I've said earlier blue collar workers the Dems generally can rely on are flocking to Trump. These people vote at very high clips.
African Americans more than likely won't vote at the same rate as the last 2 elections.
So that leaves women and Hispanic voters which will be largely for Clinton.
So it boils down to if Trump gets enough of the working class to overcome that, I think he can because people are pissed at our job situation.
Same. Idk how I will go on. Nobody cares about my feelings.
Bullying is at an all time high, you guys. We're great because we're good. Refugees want to come here because we treat people with respect and dignity.
^ that was my favorite stuff. Forget illegal things I might have done, forget war on terror, mf the economy, etc...bullying is all time high!!! Damnit, we must be respectful or the refugees might not want to come here!
Again, there are a lot of people who refuse to say they will vote for him. If anything, last night solidified my choice. He came out fighting, and ripped her ass apart. That's what I wanted to see. You want to go toe to toe with him...there you go.
Oh and Martha can go get f*cked.
Oh and Martha can go get f*cked.
Actually it comes down to whether the media can uninspire trump supporters.
They wouldn't stoop as low as they have if they want concerned, but the reality is they are concerned because they see what's happening they just aren't reporting it.
They wouldn't stoop as low as they have if they want concerned, but the reality is they are concerned because they see what's happening they just aren't reporting it.
People thinking this is over is probably Trumps best/only chance to win.
Most don't want to vote for Hillary...if they think its already a blowout, they may stay home.
Most don't want to vote for Hillary...if they think its already a blowout, they may stay home.
I am both surprised and a little disappointed that Trump didn't feint a "donkey punch" and/or feint a "pu**y grab" at Hillary whilst he was circling around her like a buzzard during the debate. Would have clinched the election for him IMHO.
#missed opportunity
#missed opportunity
From the Wiki dump. Still waiting, after all these years, for the one time we find out there was behind the scenes media collusion favoring the Republican. Just once? Good old Maggie, she "never disappoints"......
"Buried within the latest batch of e-mails from the hacker Guccifer 2.0, the Clinton campaign specifically singled out then-Politico and current New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman as someone they “have...a very good relationship with” and thus could assist them in the spin “achiev[ing] our objective and do the most shaping.”
"Buried within the latest batch of e-mails from the hacker Guccifer 2.0, the Clinton campaign specifically singled out then-Politico and current New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman as someone they “have...a very good relationship with” and thus could assist them in the spin “achiev[ing] our objective and do the most shaping.”
Speaking of missed opportunity Trump F'D up by stating completely different tactics on Syria. Had he said I see it different but I trust my team with certain facets and will lean on them a lot to guide me in the right directions it would have been much better.
Reason i say that is allt of people do not trust trump, but if he is willing to be guided by a Pence, Christie, Carson etc then Hilliary and the media can't just hit Trump they have to hit everyone.
Reason i say that is allt of people do not trust trump, but if he is willing to be guided by a Pence, Christie, Carson etc then Hilliary and the media can't just hit Trump they have to hit everyone.
Two things:
(1) Yes, the idea of a "hidden" Trump vote is a possibility
(2) No, there's no evidence that it exists currently or that it existed during the primaries
This is where the comparisons with Brexit miss the point. There was no primary season before Brexit; there was one for Trump, and he consistently performed at or below his pre-election day poll numbers in almost every contest. Furthermore, late deciders broke against him, not for him. So when you see that 6% or 8% undecideds or that third party % hanging out there, a 50/50 split for Trump would be unprecedented in this cycle. Chances are, more of them will flip to Hillary than Trump (if they turn out at all).
Also, if there's some "secret Trump vote" (i.e., whites who didn't vote the last few cycles), there's no evidence that he's mobilized them, much less that he'll be getting them to the polls on Nov 8. It's not just the fact that non-college whites aren't registering at any higher rate than previous elections; it's the fact that they're being outpaced (sometimes by a factor of 2) by college whites, minorities, and millennials. If non-college whites are planning to swamp this election, they've missed the registration deadline in plenty of states (and if the unregistered ones aren't getting registered, why should we expect the registered-but-don't-usually-vote whites to turn out for Trump? You'd think there'd be significant correlation between the two groups)
TL;DR:
Could a "secret Trump wave" be in the making? Theoretically. Is there any evidence of it? No (and actually some evidence to the contrary).
What you say is true. We do have a nation filled with morons who have no vision, are completely ignorant about politics, apathetic about corruption. What you fail to say is that they are pretty evenly disbursed right and left. It becomes pretty evident when all someone can do is repeat talking points and code words.
I always find humor in the fact that the right wing media that is over the top biased to one side calls the MSM biased. If the MSM leans left it at least presents opposing points of view and makes their airways open to all candidates and POVs.
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"We're great because we're good" has to be one of the dumber thongs I've ever heard. Yet everyone lapped it up.
What a cuck. Trump is the only one who could lose to Hillary by less than 10pts. Obviously.
CNN radio is in full blown damage control right now.
The hosts are emotionally desperate for dirt.
Driving through central Illinois right now to pick up a dog, I've counted 18 Trump signs yet to see a Hillary sign and this is Hillarys home state.
The hosts are emotionally desperate for dirt.
Driving through central Illinois right now to pick up a dog, I've counted 18 Trump signs yet to see a Hillary sign and this is Hillarys home state.
That's her opinion but interesting how she sees it. You think Dems would be on board with Cruz?
If only ifs and buts were nuts n sluts.
That's because dems and their po widdle feelings get hurt. Boo hoo. Emotional midgets.
Fun fact. democrats make up 90% of people with personality disorders.
You think the press wouldn't go full force in calling him a religious zealot, anti gay, unlikable, not a real citizen, his wife's ties to Wall Street, etc?
The religious aspect seems to turn people off, both independents and Dems (unless you're Muslim).
Do I think Cruz is better than Trump? Yes. Do I think he had a chance in hell at the general election? Nope.
Like I said, best candidates were guys who never got the media coverage to win. Of the three finalist for the GOP, no one was winning against Hillary.
Just ridiculous.....I think the first 'Fact Check' they did (or the first I saw) nearly made my head explode. Had to do with the 33,000 erased emails. Trump stated in the debate that Hillary deleted the emails after the subpoena. The CNN graphic outlined everything (including dates), just as Donald had stated, and then they said that Donald's statement was 'False'. Apparently, their reasoning was that the IT company 'forgot' to delete them prior to the subpoena and 'mistakenly' did so after the subpoena, thus, DJT's claim that Hillary deleted the emails after the subpoena is 'False'....SMH at how in-the-tank the media is for any Leftist.
If you vote hIllary and ever ever complain about a UK refereed called game, then f*** you. And you can lick my hairy nuts too
The difference is that the GOP wouldn't be fracturing because of Cruz. He runs superb campaigns and doesn't cause firestorms anywhere near what Trump does.
The GOP would not be in danger of losing the Senate if Cruz were running. That's just a fact.
lol, of course they wouldn't. He's a carbon copy of every hack conservative shill propped up by the RNC. hahaha
Ted Cruz was getting his ass beat. There is no other way to rationalize that bullshit.
exactly. and those "hack conservatives" win a lot of elections. unlike....well...
Not anymore. They will never win another election running on the GWB playbook. Won't happen.
Yet, good Republicans will fall in the trap again in 2020 when a Romney, Santorum, Rubio clone pops up and tries to guilt shame social issues by using the evangelical angle.
They have a commanding (although, amazingly enough, possibly vulnerable) majority in the House and were set up to have a filibuster-proof Senate majority in 2018. A Romney loss against an incumbent who was/is incredibly good at campaigning shouldn't outweigh all of the other data that points towards a winning coalition for the GOP.
Trump has blown all of that up. And SCOTUS will lean decidedly left for a decade because of it.
http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/10/second-presidential-debate.html
This site should be moderating. lmao
This site should be moderating. lmao
Trump ditched any prior attempt at a pivot last night and just went back to primary mode. He did plenty to re-energize the die hards that were all in during the primary. But what did he do to appeal to the uncommitted? What did he do to try appeal to suburban women after the weekend he had? Between debate 1 and 2 it's like he's given up trying to expand his potential electorate.
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