Pearl crying tears of happiness while Cal
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You’re just a different type of fan.
I’m going to say this again, slightly differently.
The SEC Title isn’t the ultimate goal. Understood. I was still unhappy with the season ending without a title while winning the SEC tourney. Yes.
I am pointing out the Fact that the priority of winning is different. Pearl obviously puts a priority on winning this tourney.. Cal has publicly, and numerous times, said he doesn’t care. DOESN’T ****ING CARE.
This is my issue. Keep being you though. Glad it doesn’t bother you at all. It bothers the shit out of me. Just pretend you care. That’s all.
It always matters whether you like it or not. No one cared I. 2015 because we got differed and pissed away a perfect season. I wi grant you that one.
2017 I remember fondly. That team was awesome. Fox was amazing. So was Bam. And screw those fools that said “Theh don’t care about Kentucky”. They are idiots. They absolutely cared. Wall cares. Devin Booker cared enough to be eating UK pjs while watching us Lu while he was in the NBA.
It matters. And the problem is you’re listening to the far nuts that thinking unless you win it all the season is a complete failure. That’s insanity. And unrealistic. The other issue is now we have portions of this fan base that agree with Cal saying it doesn’t matter. That also is wrong. It matters. It’s part of a winning tradition. Winning your conference matters. UT will be a higher seed than we are and have better odds and potential matchups because they won the SEC-RS. That matters too.
Enough is enough. Winning rhe SEC and/or the SECT most times often than not is part of being “Kentucky good”. Why do you think Rupp is remembered for being such a kick ass coach? Because winning mattered. Why are we such a historic program? BECAUSE WINNING MATTERS.
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Whats pearl won in the NCAA? Guys coached 30 years and has made one final four and one elite 8..that's it.
What's Cal won in the last 5 seasons... Obviously your loyalty but what else?
Pearl just won his NCAA conference tournament...
Cal is an embarrassment.
I agree which is why I’m not wild about the ide of him coming here. But who was his last FF run over?
He’s also won the SECT twice now since we’ve even made the finals.
Facts are stubborn things. Hell almost every experienced coach has done better than us in the last 5 season tourney wise. And that’s pathetic.
Hey I don't hate Pearl. If he became UK coach tomorrow I'd be cool with it. But to say he's "built for march" and Cal isn't with both their track records is just nonsensical lol
I don't want Pearl... I just don't want Cal... And sorry I'm past Cal's distant success .. I'm living current... Last 5 years are an embarrassment for a UK coach... Plain n simple.
Pearl is trash... But grateful for his success... Not resting on a guaranteed contract and outdated attitudes and coaching philosophy. Pearl appreciates Auburn and the opportunity they gave him... And success for his players and school. Cal is an arrogant ingrate who sees himself as far more successful than he actually is.
Cal just doesn’t care about winning. He’s made it plainly obvious.
his passion and drive is really refreshing. I'd say I'd like him as UK's next coach, and I think he would kill it here ... but coaches in their 60s usually fall off and aren't peak anymore but he probably is a Pitino, coach K, like person that will keep going till he dies and coaching just as well. Calhoun was pretty old too wasn't he?
2009-2015 Cal was the best coach in CBB. He hasn’t been really seen since. If he could EVER find his way back that’s the type of coach UK needs.
But that Cal is long dead.
SEC Tournament always matters. To say so it doesn't is delusional. Seeding is always on the line here.
You think I'm buying into Cal. I was president of the it's time to go committee 6 years ago.
You know. It’s a goal on the road to the big goal. Shit doesn’t happen by dumb luck. I remember pitino laying it out step by step. First goal to win the SEC regular season. Next goal to win the secT title. Next win the regional. Then the title. You don’t just play 32 games and then go on a run. You set incremental goals. This is some basic path to success stuff.
This. I agree with.
There have been plenty of tournaments in the past where conference tournament champions were sitting home after the first weekend. I have a feeling this year may be that way.
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In 2012, Kevin Stallings cried his eyes out after beating Kentucky. I decided right then I was not going to advance Vanderbilt in my bracket. His goal was to beat Kentucky. Same thing in 2015 when Wisconsin won. Their goal was to beat Kentucky. Now, I'm not saying cals goal is to win the championship. As pointed out in this thread, Green Room.
That’s definitely not how that game should be characterized. MSU was an outstanding team. They were in the final four that season if you recall. Did he hold back a bit? Probably but if it was someone other than msu our 96 team would have steamrolled them. And btw he still attempted to accomplish the goal. Cal just acts like nothing matters.
Portable goalposts at all times for the Doomsday Catastrophists. We hiring Pearl tomorrow, the guy we beat down in his own house?
Winning today with all the upsets could have caused a huge seeding swing.
THAT affects the big tourney majorly.
I would rather our coach care about winning every game instead of downplaying and making excuses after losing.
Cals been on the couch since Friday watching Little House on the Prairie and eating bon bons.
Exactly.. It should be a goal as a stop along the way every year.
Sometimes, not winning the conference tournament is OK. That would be a proven team that's had sustained success and is maybe on a lengthy winning streak. The loss can refocus them. A good coach will realize and understand that.
That's not the case for this UK team. They needed the confidence and consistency, not to mention the extra games. Cal still mailed it in like he always does.
That's not the case for this UK team. They needed the confidence and consistency, not to mention the extra games. Cal still mailed it in like he always does.
Mitch should've found a way to call Pearl a couple years ago. I'd take him over Cal in a heartbeat. Pearl would've been a perfect fit for Kentucky and BBN.
Not to be nitpicking, but ... I have to nitpick with this, just because one of those 4 straight SEC tournament wins was the 2015 team that went 38-1. I don't know of a single person whom I've seen post on this board who "didn't care" when that season ended without an NCAA title.
Nail
if you were looking to get reaction to your initial post, congratulations!
As a competitor in any sport the goal should be to win!!!
Does the annual UL game mean anything?
Does the all time wins record mean anything?
Why does UK participate in the SEC tournament if the head ball coach does not care if his team wins or not?
If the ultimate goal is to win the NCAA tournament (and I agree) would you rather be coming off a 1st game SEC tournament loss to a 500 SEC record A&M team or riding the momentum of AU going into the tournament?
Never heard a competitor say that they did not care if they won or not. I also think that CCC Probably has some language in his contract about winning games. UK may advance further in the tournament than AU but I believe a coach that is motivated and has winning as the #1 priority (Pearl) will fare better than our CCC who picks and chooses which games he would like to win and which games don’t really matter.
Guess I am old school and not in synch with people who don’t compete!
if you were looking to get reaction to your initial post, congratulations!
As a competitor in any sport the goal should be to win!!!
Does the annual UL game mean anything?
Does the all time wins record mean anything?
Why does UK participate in the SEC tournament if the head ball coach does not care if his team wins or not?
If the ultimate goal is to win the NCAA tournament (and I agree) would you rather be coming off a 1st game SEC tournament loss to a 500 SEC record A&M team or riding the momentum of AU going into the tournament?
Never heard a competitor say that they did not care if they won or not. I also think that CCC Probably has some language in his contract about winning games. UK may advance further in the tournament than AU but I believe a coach that is motivated and has winning as the #1 priority (Pearl) will fare better than our CCC who picks and chooses which games he would like to win and which games don’t really matter.
Guess I am old school and not in synch with people who don’t compete!
Not the ultimate goal no. BUT, we will see if it matters for seeding. We would have been no worse than a 3 before the loss to A&M.
I say if there are games to be played you’re going balls to the wall to win them all.
It's on the path towards the goal. It shows dominance. It prepares your team better for the tourney. Gives you confidence that if you can win that tourney, you can win the NCAA.
We used to win SEC tourneys and be in the final 4 about every year the last few years we are knocked out of the SEC and NCAA in the first rounds so sad Ky has sunk so low.
2012 SEC tournament Vanderbilt
2014 American Conference UL
2015 ACC Notre Dame
2016 Big East Seton Hall
2017 ACC Duke
2019 ACC Duke
2021 Big 12 Texas
2023 Big East Marquette
Do you see my point?
Vacated won Big East and NCAA in 13.
Nova in 18. KU won Big 12 and title in 2022. Three times the Titleist won their conference tournament.
Case closed.
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Completely disagree. While those seasons ended in disappointment I was happy all those teams won the Conference. You’re not going to win a national championship every other year. Conference championships matter
What's more fun? Losing in SEC tournament or winning it?
Obviously it's more fun and therefore better. Any argument diminishing the accomplishment by trying to say "It doesn't matter," or "You won't care looking back," is cope.
You know what sucks? Having nothing to hang your hat on during the postseason. I certainly remember winning nothing going on 5 seasons now. It's awful. It's boring.
Obviously it's more fun and therefore better. Any argument diminishing the accomplishment by trying to say "It doesn't matter," or "You won't care looking back," is cope.
You know what sucks? Having nothing to hang your hat on during the postseason. I certainly remember winning nothing going on 5 seasons now. It's awful. It's boring.
Then let me be the first to congratulate Coach Cal on a successful weekend. Well done Coach-
GBB!
Probably have won the conference or the tournament every year we've won an NCAA Tournament Championship. I didn't look it up but I'd be surprised if at least one of those hasn't happened every title year.
