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Oweh update

I watched Oweh in warmups at the SEC tournament. The view of players on TV is normally from the side…at the tournament I was able to watch him for several minutes from the end zone and he releases the ball above his left eye. It’s ridiculous how he was allowed to continue to shoot like that, but at this point it probably is not something he can change. Because of this mechanical defect in his shot, I just don’t ever see him being an adequate three point shooter. At least not at the NBA level. Just don’t think I could draft him if I were a GM.
 
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Yes, and his brother has an $11.3 million dollar contract right now.

Being around that type of money will make Otega want some of his own. Kentucky offers that for a season. The NBA does not.

He'll announce his return today.
Browns probably saying “go and be a pro college is for kids”
 

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I watched Oweh in warmups at the SEC tournament. The view of players on TV is normally from the side…at the tournament I was able to watch him for several minutes from the end zone and he releases the ball above his left eye. It’s ridiculous how he was allowed to continue to shoot like that, but at this point it probably is not something he can change. Because of this mechanical defect in his shot, I just don’t ever see him being an adequate three point shooter. At least not at the NBA level. Just don’t think I could draft him if I were a GM.
OO's shot reminds me so much of Rondo. Rondo became a solid but not great perimeter shooter in the NBA. I'm not predicting OO to become another Rondo but their games and jumper are similar.
 
If you're worried about injury, then the best option is to make the most money right away, which is likely at UK.
If you're a player on the rise, then the best option is to make the most money right away at UK, and then move up the draft boards next year.
If you're maxed out, then the best option is to make the most money you can right away, which is at UK, then bounce around G-League, overseas, or with a smaller NBA contract on the bench somewhere.

...unless you're guaranteed a bigger rookie contract by an NBA team now. Otherwise the smart play is UK. That doesn't mean that's what he'll choose though. He may just want to play in the NBA more. My gut says he's gone, but I may just be hedging my hopes.
 
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If you're worried about injury, then the best option is to make the most money right away, which is likely at UK.
If you're a player on the rise, then the best option is to make the most money right away at UK, and then move up the draft boards next year.
If you're maxed out, then the best option is to make the most money you can right away, which is at UK, then bounce around G-League, overseas, or with a smaller NBA contract on the bench somewhere.

...unless you're guaranteed a bigger rookie contract by an NBA team now. Otherwise the smart play is UK. That doesn't mean that's what he'll choose though. He may just want to play in the NBA more. My gut says he's gone, but I may just be hedging my hopes.
You would think it would be an easy decision to come back. Same with RJ and Watkins as well. They could return to college and make money. To me neither 3 will be a first round pick, so I would make as much money as I can this season. My guess would be all three would have to go the long way to get into the NBA anyway. As in G League, 2 way contracts, or playing overseas in other leagues. If you are offered 2 million right not, seems easy decision to take the money.
 
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If he’s looking for a 2nd round guaranteed contract, he hasn’t received one yet. If a team springs to give one out today to one of these fringe guys, it’s definitely going to Luis or Watkins over Oweh. OO just isn’t in that territory, if he’s unranked everywhere maybe a team takes a flyer on him in the mid-late 50s on a deal that could end up mostly guaranteed, but there’s no incentive for anyone to offer that to him before draft day because there just isn’t a competitive market for his services.

Makes no sense for him to stay in, it would be a mind-boggling decision. The hypothetical deal that would make it make sense isn’t there and isn’t coming. I’m expecting a statement to be released at any time after noon today, just a statement of fact that Otega Oweh is returning as has always been the plan. Another thing, it doesn’t feel like Pope has tried recruiting him back. I take that as Pope feeling assured he’s going through the process and returning.
 
If he stays great, we will be a favorite for the title. If he leaves the silver lining will be look at what Kentucky and Pope can do for you.
 
I’m not claiming any inside info, but I think he’s serious about getting drafted and not just getting feedback as a formality if he’s waited this long. I still lean towards him coming back for the simple reason that I don’t really see him as being any better than a late second rounder at best, but I’m less sure of it than I was at the start of the process.
 
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From what he has said and from his draft board projections, I believe he is coming back. There is no reason for him not to wait until the last minute for further feedback and to make his return more newsworthy. I expect a "I'm back" X post this evening or early tomorrow. Anything else would be surprising.
 
From what he has said and from his draft board projections, I believe he is coming back. There is no reason for him not to wait until the last minute for further feedback and to make his return more newsworthy. I expect a "I'm back" X post this evening or early tomorrow. Anything else would be surprising.
I would expect it today honestly. If not it would be strange,
 
I’m not claiming any inside info, but I think he’s serious about getting drafted and not just getting feedback as a formality if he’s waited this long. I still lean towards him coming back for the simple reason that I don’t really see him as being any better than a late second rounder at best, but I’m less sure of it than I was at the start of the process.

Nobody stays this long, until the last minute, unless they are trying to hear what they want to hear. Safe to say I think Oweh really wants to get drafted and he's trying his hardest to see which team will take him.
 
Nobody stays this long, until the last minute, unless they are trying to hear what they want to hear. Safe to say I think Oweh really wants to get drafted and he's trying his hardest to see which team will take him.
Maybe true, but it also means they haven't yet heard what they want. Our past experience with guys waiting until the final day, they've decided to pull out of the draft.
 
Speaking of Jackson Robinson. After waiting till the last minute to opt out last year and returning to college. Is he projected to get drafted? Last year he was considered a huge win coming to Lexington. He turned down the NBA to come to Kentucky. Did he hurt his draft status coming back to college?
 
Tonight is the deadline right? Did Robinson not announce even after the deadline? I would assume that stuff is public once the deadline hits.
Nobody knew anything until the day after the deadline with Robinson. It was a little different only because he'd entered the portal and could've wound up at another college.
 
Robinson may have hurt his draft potential by coming back and getting hurt. He also may have made more money in NIL than he would've gotten from the NBA. IDK how much he made, but there's a pretty good chance Oweh will make more at UK than in the NBA next year. If money is the goal and injury is the concern, then he should go wherever he is going to make the most money right away.
 
I interpret that as good and bad.

Maybe true, but it also means they haven't yet heard what they want. Our past experience with guys waiting until the final day, they've decided to pull out of the draft.

My only thing with that is, will he be happy with that news? Will he be dialed in this year, and will he do the things that benefit the team's mission.. OR will he do the things he needs to do to go play professionally somewhere? I'm not saying hes the type who would do this, I have no idea.

But it's a little similar to when your employee leaves. You CAN counter their offer to get them to stay, but it's probably in your best interest if you don't and let them leave, because that person already has a foot out the door. Now I'm not saying it's the same situation (And not saying you dont welcome him back), just more the thought process someone has when they are looking to leave some place.
 
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Pope will have a back up plan that includes someone who removes their name prior to midnight if OO stays in. OO will not be drafted and is not a good enough shooter to make a team as an undrafted free agent but he can make good money playing in Europe and his age clock is ticking. Likely being told that the longer he stays in college the less his chances of playing in the NBA.
 
Right now would be perfect for one of my false alarm official threads. I think I’m done with those tho they aren’t to popular on here lol.
 
My only thing with that is, will he be happy with that news? Will he be dialed in this year, and will he do the things that benefit the team's mission.. OR will he do the things he needs to do to go play professionally somewhere. I'm not saying hes the type who would do this, I have no idea.

But it's a little similar to when your employee leaves. You CAN counter their offer to get them to stay, but it's probably in your best interest if you don't and let them leave, because that person already has a foot out the door. Now I'm not saying it's the same situation (And not saying you dont welcome him back), just more the thought process someone has when they are looking to leave some place.
The past guys who came back out of the draft had no issues like you are worried about. It feels like you're trying to preemptively soften the blow if he leaves. I think he comes back, but if he doesn't it really sucks for us.
 
Tonight is the deadline right? Did Robinson not announce even after the deadline? I would assume that stuff is public once the deadline hits.
Robinson announced nothing that night and committed to us the next morning.

This board had a ridiculously embarrassing meltdown that night with posters calling Robinson all kinds of names. Then, the next morning, they all looked like fools.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see that here today/tonight.
 
Robinson may have hurt his draft potential by coming back and getting hurt. He also may have made more money in NIL than he would've gotten from the NBA. IDK how much he made, but there's a pretty good chance Oweh will make more at UK than in the NBA next year. If money is the goal and injury is the concern, then he should go wherever he is going to make the most money right away.
I never saw an NBA player in Robinson. You can see it in Oweh if you squint.
 
Speaking of Jackson Robinson. After waiting till the last minute to opt out last year and returning to college. Is he projected to get drafted? Last year he was considered a huge win coming to Lexington. He turned down the NBA to come to Kentucky. Did he hurt his draft status coming back to college?
It seems that way right now. He was viewed as a possible 2nd round pick last year and whether it’s the injury or the fact that his play was a bit streaky, I don’t see him mentioned as getting picked at all in most places right now.
 
Hence, his brother is “likely advising” him to return. No one is saying they “know” what his family is telling him what to do.
Goes back to my original statement. We don’t know what anyone is “likely advising”. Probably not best to insinuate anything when it comes to family advise unless you actually know the family.
 
You're just making shit up now.

Livingston was 19 years old, Oweh is already in his grey beard years when it comes to the draft. A year older doesn't mean squat when it comes to 2nd round deals.

Also, you're using an outlier to debate this, how may guys got as lucky as Chris Livingston did? For every Chris Livingston, there are a million guys that took the plunge, missed and have been swimming in the GL for their entire careers and back then, there was no NIL, so taking the plunge was the right move. It's not the right move now.

One other thing to consider, OO doesn't have Calipari using his NBA contacts to pull strings. If you think Cal didn't help Chris, I can't help you unserstand this.

How do I know what deals OO has, or doesn't have? I don't, I'm using common sense. If he had a deal, he wouldn't be doing another workout today. If he had a deal, SOMEONE would be showing him as a draft projection.
actually, Cal is not the one that leveraged Livingston getting drafted
 
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What is it exactly Oweh is waiting for? He’s not on anyone’s radar
 
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