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FINAL LINEUP: Post Oweh Returning

I've been thinking... I know the most common starting lineups thrown around have the veterans starting - Lowe, Aberdeen, Oweh, Dioubate, Garrison (to start the year at least). But knowing how Pope recruits and builds a team for how pieces fit together as a whole, I wonder if he'll start the game with all the best shooters on the bench. Johnson, Chandler, Williams all on the bench could make for a barrage of shooting when they sub in, but I have to wonder if maybe we bring Aberdeen off the bench as 6th man and start one of these 3 guys. Really hard to predict, as just said we have a lot of talented guys to pick from.
 
Reports on summer pick-up games will be like nothing we have seen or heard of since 2015
There will be multiple "beast" sightings on a daily basis. I believe Williams will emerge as a
standout early in the process, obviously JQ won't be a factor in this timeframe. Johnson and Moreno
will have some catching up to speed with this group of vets. I think Chandler will pick up where
he left off at season's end. Jelavic and Porter will be better than expected.

This will be a better team than last year from the get go. I don't see them getting down double
digits and having to stage big comebacks too many times. As to who starts in game one I'll go
with:

Oweh
Lowe
Williams
Dioubate
Garrison
 
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Really and truthfully, Oweh might be the only “lock” in the starting five. Lowe is probably the next closest to a lock, because he is really the only pure PG we have. The other three spots are up for grabs.
 
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If Williams is as good as I and others think he is, and progresses his sophomore year, he will NEVER be the odd man out. Too much versatility and athletic ability to ride the bench. I think he starts. JMO. Two way players who can score from 3 areas will play the most. Williams fits the criteria. Aberdeen has been a career back up, he is solid, but just doesn't do anything one thing great. Perfect utility guy who can fill in for different positions but not good enough to command a starters spot.
Once again, IMO the starters will be (when fully healthy) :
Lowe
Oweh
Williams
Dioubate
JQ
Agree the rest of the board should read the pros asecement of Williams. I'm not surprised if he's our leading scorer
 
Lowe
OO
Williams
Mo
JQ

Johnson
Garrison
Aberdeen
Chandler
Jelavic
Moreno
Hawthorne

Noah
Potter

What I think today at this hour....subject to change.
 
I still think Aberdeen nudges Williams for the starting nod, williams comes off the bench as our primary 6th man.

Having Chandler and Williams (and the others) coming off the bench, we are going to have a deadly team once we start subbin' and getting our guys in the rotation action. I expect them to extend good starts to games with the first substitutions of any given game next year.

Unless we are playing someone else that is extremely deep and as talented as we are, I think we will have a marked advantage.
 
Lowe
OO
Williams
Mo
JQ

Johnson
Garrison
Aberdeen
Chandler
Jelavic
Moreno
Hawthorne

Noah
Potter

What I think today at this hour....subject to change.
I wouldn’t be surprised if by season’s end that first five isn’t our best five. It’s a great combo of defense and offense.

PG Lowe- great scorer (led Pitt in scoring) and distributor (5.5 apg), can get into the paint and score or dish. Good defender.
SG Oweh- our leading returning scorer. Great defender. Should be our leader (showed glimpses of that last year). Should be one of the best players in the SEC/nation.
SF Williams- 3 and D guy. Projected draft pick in 26. With Lowe and Oweh able to get to the rim, he could make a killing on kick out spot up 3’s (41% last year).
PF Dioubate- great defender and rebounder. Energy guy. Can knock down the occasional 3 and plays really well off the ball.
C Quaintance- good defender. Decent scorer inside. The only concern is the injury. If he’s back to 100%, the sky is the limit. Projected lottery pick (if healthy).

That leaves an incredible bench:

PG Aberdeen
SG Johnson
SF Chandler
PF Jelavic
C Garrison

We go to the bench and we get a little bigger inside and at the point.

Aberdeen was one of the best sixth men last season and could be again this season, if he doesn’t start.

Man, I know it’s a bad word and has its own set of issues, but this team screams platoon.
 
Redshirt Potter for sure. Maybe Hawthorne and Noah as well.

Jalavic is the real unknown and may push for a sixth man role. I agree that JQ may not play until January. I also believe that Chandler will play a key backup role as will JJ.

However I do not think platooning for the non-conference schedule is a bad idea. At least everyone will be experienced and even rested by Conference time. Also maybe there is enough depth and length and shot blockers to press the entire game and play 90 feet defense.

Very deep team but I totally agree that Mo and Denzel (both with championship SEC experience) will start along with Lowe and OO and Garrison .
Definitely dont redshirt Noah. He showed he can be a solid defender and has a great nose for the ball. We will need his ability to spread the floor is dont care what his percentage was last year watch him shoot and you can see a big time player. He will be big for us.
 
Hard to see Aberdeen not starting. His intensity is like Oweh and Diaboute. Start with those three and go from there IMO.
I really like the idea of starting the five upperclassmen. Like you said, Aberdeen and Dioubate bring the intensity. They are winners. Put those two with Oweh and we come with some fire.
 
Definitely dont redshirt Noah. He showed he can be a solid defender and has a great nose for the ball. We will need his ability to spread the floor is dont care what his percentage was last year watch him shoot and you can see a big time player. He will be big for us.
Yeah, Potter probably needs to redshirt. Hawthorne could redshirt as well.

I can’t see a reason to redshirt Noah. He’s just a Sophomore. He really doesn’t need to add much weight/muscle like Hawthorne. He can play multiple positions, which could be helpful if we have injuries. Potter is kind of in a logjam at the 5, if all goes according to plan (Quaintance is able to play). And redshirting three guys means we only have 11 guys to play and we saw what can happen with injuries. Sure, you can bring a kid off a redshirt in the middle of the season, but I’d hate for a kid to plan to redshirt and then lose a whole year of eligibility and only play a few games because of injury. And bringing a kid in during SEC play without any reps against cupcakes is not a smart move.

So two at the most. Probably Potter and Hawthorne. Potter probably doesn’t want to waste one of his two years of eligibility for spot minutes as a Junior. Redshirt, learn the system, and get stronger. Hawthorne needs to add some muscle. A year of living in the weight room, so to speak, will help him and he would still have four years of eligibility left.

Like you said, Noah can play and has proven he can play some minutes in the SEC. And he would still have two years left, even if he doesn’t see much action.
 
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Yeah, Potter probably needs to redshirt. Hawthorne could redshirt as well.

I can’t see a reason to redshirt Noah. He’s just a Sophomore. He really doesn’t need to add much weight/muscle like Hawthorne. He can play multiple positions, which could be helpful if we have injuries. Potter is kind of in a logjam at the 5, if all goes according to plan (Quaintance is able to play). And redshirting three guys means we only have 11 guys to play and we saw what can happen with injuries. Sure, you can bring a kid off a redshirt in the middle of the season, but I’d hate for a kid to plan to redshirt and then lose a whole year of eligibility and only play a few games because of injury. And bringing a kid in during SEC play without any reps against cupcakes is not a smart move.

So two at the most. Probably Potter and Hawthorne. Potter probably doesn’t want to waste one of his two years of eligibility for spot minutes as a Junior. Redshirt, learn the system, and get stronger. Hawthorne needs to add some muscle. A year of living in the weight room, so to speak, will help him and he would still have four years of eligibility left.

Like you said, Noah can play and has proven he can play some minutes in the SEC. And he would still have two years left, even if he doesn’t see much action.
Very well said. I agree with every point.
 
I really like the idea of starting the five upperclassmen. Like you said, Aberdeen and Dioubate bring the intensity. They are winners. Put those two with Oweh and we come with some fire.
Yeah, how many games are won or lost the first ten minutes of the game? Shock and awe at the tip would help keep us from getting a slow start and having to fight back the whole game because of the slow start.
 
I'm gonna say that the first lineup we see next season is

Lowe
Chandler
Otegatron
Mo
Garrison

Later in the year, I'd be surprised if it's not

Lowe
Aberdeen
Otegatron
Mo/JQ
Garrison

I think we go with experience with Chandler at the start of the year and then Aberdeen begins to start as he comes to to speed in the system.

Lol wut, I don't care what the system is, Aberdeen ain't sitting behind Chandler .
 
Agree the rest of the board should read the pros asecement of Williams. I'm not surprised if he's our leading scorer
Dude, get this shit fixed or stop posting. Well stop quoting my post anyway. You have been told a minimum of 10 times that your post do no show up. FIX IT.
 
So tough to tell at this stage, especially with Jelavic. My guess on minutes breakdown at this point. This is at season's end. I don't think Quaintance will be playing a ton until SEC play. I imagine Pope will try to spread minutes around as much as he can against the cupcakes to keep folks happy and see what he has.

POSITIONSTARTBACKUPRESERVERESERVE
PGLowe (24)Johnson (10)Chandler (6)
SGAberdeen (20)Chandler (10)Oweh (8)K. Williams (0)
SFOweh (20)K. Williams (14)Noah (6)Hawthorne (0)
PFDioubate (20)Potter (12)Jelavic (8)
CGarrison (24)Quaintance (16)Moreno (0)
 
So tough to tell at this stage, especially with Jelavic. My guess on minutes breakdown at this point. This is at season's end. I don't think Quaintance will be playing a ton until SEC play. I imagine Pope will try to spread minutes around as much as he can against the cupcakes to keep folks happy and see what he has.

POSITIONSTARTBACKUPRESERVERESERVE
PGLowe (24)Johnson (10)Chandler (6)
SGAberdeen (20)Chandler (10)Oweh (8)K. Williams (0)
SFOweh (20)K. Williams (14)Noah (6)Hawthorne (0)
PFDioubate (20)Potter (12)Jelavic (8)
CGarrison (24)Quaintance (16)Moreno (0)
Just nitpicking, but I think Aberdeen moves to PG when Lowe sits. Johnson and Chandler backup the 2 spot. I don’t think Potter plays much at PF either and isn’t that high on the depth chart, unless Jelavic is overrated.

But like you said, too early to tell.

But I would really be surprised if Potter is the backup PF.
 
Here is another potential starting combo:

PG Aberdeen- 3 years experience in the SEC.
SG Chandler- 1 year experience in the SEC.
SF Oweh- 1 year experience in the SEC. 2 years experience in the Big 12.
PF Dioubate- 2 years experience in the SEC.
C Garrison- 1 year experience in the SEC. 1 year experience in the Big 12.

I haven’t seen anyone talk much about Chandler, but he showed some real potential down the stretch.

Now, with a year experience in the SEC under his belt, he could be poised to breakout.

I do figure Lowe will start at PG, but if Pope wants to go with SEC experience, he has five guys he can play together who all played in the SEC last season.

I doubt many other SEC teams can say that, since most of the teams in the league lost a ton of Seniors from last season and went outside the conference for most of their portal additions.

And Oweh and Garrison also played in the Big 12, when the Big 12 was considered the strongest conference in the country.

That’s some quality experience across the board.

Bring in more SEC experience (Noah- 1 year), ACC experience (Lowe- 2 years), and Big 12 experience (Quaintance- 1 year) off the bench.

These guys have all played in big time games in big time leagues.
 
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It's been a long time since we had such a stacked roster from top to bottom like this. In my view, we haven't had anything remotely close to this level of talent and depth since 2015. Thinking about starting lineups and combinations is fun, but at the end of the day, by the end of the season, I beleive we wil see this :

Scenario One :
JQ is not ready to go at the beginniing of the year, spot minutes as he is slowly worked into shape. Ready to go full tilt by SEC play would be my best guess. If he isn't ready to go from the get-go :
Starters : Lowe, Oweh, Aberdeen, Mo. D., Garrison

Scenario two :
JQ is ready to go from the start ... no issues means we're good to go.
Starters : Lowe, Oweh, Aberdeen, Mo. D., JQ

I think Coach Pope has constructed another team to fit into his system much like the first team he brought on board.

Lowe takes over from Butler, Williams comes in as a sixth man sharpshooter in the shoes of Brea, Oweh and Garrison same as aled and now the leaders of the team.... Aberdeen and Mo. D. coming in with invaluable experience, toughness, athleticism and talent. Aberdeen seems to me to be much like Jaxson's role on this team, very similar game and skillset.

Williams looks to me to be the 6th man off the bench and in the same role as Brea, had everyone stayed healthy,. Brea would have remained our primary 6th man, sharpsooter from the bench.

JQ is another stud of the group. Unique skillset for this team that may be the singular difference in how great this team will be. I think he will give us a rebounding and shot blocking presence that we lacked from the outset last year.

Mo. D. and JQ are the two keynote players for our defensive and rebounding improvement.

When you look at the bench, Chandler, Williams and Noah coming off the bench gives us a superior three point shooting presence. Perhaps not as good as last year, but I think Coach Pope's system is better served having guys like them, as well as JJ to stretch teams out and create space.

I'm not convinced we will not be as lethal offensively as we were last year. I think we will be ... better.... Why ?

Butler ----- Lowe (May have even better offensive proiduction and three point shooting from Lowe, but a dropoff in defensive intensity on the ball looks to be the case. His offensive ability is not needed as much with the other pieces out there, imo)

Oweh ------ All American potential season in store

Jaxson ---- Aberdeen - Similar game, and style of play, looks to me to be equally important for next season

Brea ------ Williams - I'm going to say he's going to be as lethal as Brea within this system. We shall see.

Almonor ----- Jelavic --- Another incremental upgrade, perhaps even better than incremental. All across the board, plugging him into a lineup with any of the other allows him to have a big impact on games when he gets his playing time, and he will have playing time.

Chandler --- A better and more experienced version, a huge leap may be in store

Noah ---- improved with more experience !

Perry ---- JJ - another sharpshooting sensation waiting to get PT on a spread out floor where he can catch and shoot, as lethal as Brea potentially ... having him off the bench gives us yet ANOTHER three point threat

Carr ----- Mo. D. --- And upgrade across the board, perhaps a slight fall off from three point shooting, but that will not be his primary value, it will be in what he brings with rebounding, hustle and defensive intensity that should make him a better fit and player within Pope's system.

Garrison --- Again, improved and more experienced, only net positives from him staying here, at this point

Williams ---- JQ - I have to think this is an area where we will be better served defensively and with rebounding.

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TLDNR :

We're going to be a better three point shooting team next year.

we were looking primarily at : Jaxson, Brea, Chandler, Perry, Noah and Almonor as our primary three point shooters last year, with key contributions from Butler, Oweh, Garrison and Carr from 3 point territory, because the system allows for them to have the chance at good looks from the perimiter.


next year we will have : Aberdeen, Williams, Chandler, JJ, Noah, Jelavic, again, looking to have Lowe, Oweh, Garrison, Mo. D., take the shot when the opportunity presents itself within the system and the game.

It looks to me to be almost the same, if not slightly better because of the improvement defensively, with rebounding as a big improvement, it should make for a better team and easier offense within the system.

In short, we got a monster team next eyar. I hope everyone sleeps on us.

They won't be asleep when they see this team in action.....

Go Big Blue !
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if by season’s end that first five isn’t our best five. It’s a great combo of defense and offense.

PG Lowe- great scorer (led Pitt in scoring) and distributor (5.5 apg), can get into the paint and score or dish. Good defender.
SG Oweh- our leading returning scorer. Great defender. Should be our leader (showed glimpses of that last year). Should be one of the best players in the SEC/nation.
SF Williams- 3 and D guy. Projected draft pick in 26. With Lowe and Oweh able to get to the rim, he could make a killing on kick out spot up 3’s (41% last year).
PF Dioubate- great defender and rebounder. Energy guy. Can knock down the occasional 3 and plays really well off the ball.
C Quaintance- good defender. Decent scorer inside. The only concern is the injury. If he’s back to 100%, the sky is the limit. Projected lottery pick (if healthy).

That leaves an incredible bench:

PG Aberdeen
SG Johnson
SF Chandler
PF Jelavic
C Garrison

We go to the bench and we get a little bigger inside and at the point.

Aberdeen was one of the best sixth men last season and could be again this season, if he doesn’t start.

Man, I know it’s a bad word and has its own set of issues, but this team screams platoon.
I've been wondering when someone would say the p-word. I love it. Don't know why Cal abandoned it. If you're paying 10 guys to play, at least make 5jem earn some of it.
 
Aberdeen isn’t starting? Why leave Florida? Is Kentucky paying him much more than Florida?
 
Aberdeen isn’t starting? Why leave Florida? Is Kentucky paying him much more than Florida?
I think so, at least that is the word. Florida wanted him to stay, but didn’t want to pay, we were willing to pay, so he came here with a big ole chip on his shoulder.

I think he is good with starting or sixth man role. He just a winner and winners know they will get to play regardless of whether they start or not. He’ll start or be a difference maker off the bench.

Either way, we have a good one.
 
Curious to find out how much a different the pay was. Big difference between starting at defending champs vs 6th man.

Then again it’s Kentucky-cream of the crop of college basketball with all due respect.

Off-topic, hopefully Kansas is bad again
 
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