OUCH! That Hurts....
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The stadium expansion release was simply to fire up Louisville fans because Commonwealth was just renovated. What Jurich released is crude renditions of what he is going to show donors in hopes of securing money for expansion. I wouldn't be expecting construction to start any time soon on expansion of PJCS.
Ordinarily, I would agree that raising $55 million would be difficult, but you have made my point for me. Fundraising is going to be made much easier, because the date for Notre Dame's first appearance in Louisville is already set for September 2, 2019.
That's what Notre Dame has brought to the conference in football.
What does Notre Dame have to do with raising money for a stadium expansion? BTW, good luck filling it when you can't fill the one you have now without giving tickets away.
You can tell we have been to long away from football when a thread about Academics reaches 2 pgs ; ) I bet I'm smarter than you, no your not!
I was simply saying don't expect construction anytime soon. Does Jurich want to expand PJCS, absolutely. But the announcement last week was nothing more than a way to fire up Card fans, and try to steal some thunder from UK.
As was reported, UofL is only in the initial phases of finding donors, and plans weren't made available which more than likely means there aren't any at this point.
While the Notre Dame game is big, you don't expand a stadium for one game every 4-5 years.
This is a great point. The pure fact that we open with ND in 2019 should make it much easier to raise the money for the expansion. People will be falling over themselves to get tickets to that game. They will have no problem getting donors on board for this one with the demands there will be for tickets.
Giving tickets away? Please tell me where this is happening because I would love to get to some games this year. Plus, I know a lot of people dying to get to some games as well. I could take the free ones and make a few bucks on 'em.
I'm not sure what you mean by "any time soon". I will be more specific ... UofL will break ground on this construction project in December 2016 - December 2017 at the latest.
The good news is that we won't have to wait long to find out who is right.
As far as the expanding for one game every four or five years ... we will have a home game against either FSU or Clemson every year, plus the Governor's Cup game every other year and the already mentioned Notre Dame game in 2019 and again in 2023. It's pretty clear that there is more than one big game on the schedule over a four or five year stretch, which is why an expansion can be justified at this point.
Good luck against ULL Saturday night. I really like the pics I'm seeing of the renovated Commonwealth - the renovation is going to be a treat to see in person in November.
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Pushup, I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed.
I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed. I believe PJCS will expand again, but I don't believe it's going to be in the next 5 years.
I'm afraid you're going to be disappointed. I believe PJCS will expand again, but I don't believe it's going to be in the next 5 years.
I don't believe so. Tom Jurich isn't a blow smoke up your butt and wait kind of guy. He first brought up the expansion part II discussion when Coach Strong was still at UofL, saying then that he would take his time and proceed with due diligence. I believe he has done his due diligence at this point, knows exactly what he wants to do (he has detailed artist's renderings and a construction cost analysis) and won't waste any time in securing the funding. I firmly believe the expansion will be completed by the 2019 season opener against ND.
You may very well be right Steelers, but I'm skeptical. You and I both know why this was released when it was. I do believe this is Jurich's vision, and he wants to expand again before he retires.
We could probably use some additional security with the expanded capacity, so if you're willing to dust off the ol' fake police badge, there may be a position for you.
Really... what's the big deal with ND. Clemson and FSU much bigger games now for quite some time... ND football about like IU basketball
Makes no sense at all... so you are trying to tell us that Otis expands it's facility for a game played there every eight years... what do you do with the seats the other 7 because you and I both know that the fb fan base does not have the demand for it to be expanded
Tony V. on his afternoon Under-dog show (UofL's answer to Matt Jones show) last Friday said Jurich announcememt to expand Pappa John just drove a dagger in UK fans heart. How's that for class? And some Cards fans called in gleefully!
There are facts, and then there are non-fact based agendas. The problem with the internet is that people with agendas often use it to obscure the difference between the 2. Private schools and schools in economically healthy states with educational imperatives have an advantage over public schools in economically challenged states. That can be seen in public universities in smaller states throughout the south and midwest. UK and UL are public schools in a small, economically-challenged southern state. But within our state, UK and UL are not similar. Academically, UK is not Vandy or Florida. That much is true. But UK is a pretty good public university when compared to public universities in other small southern and midwestern states emerging from old, rurally-based economies. UK's academic strength and direction can be verified through our grant and research portfolios, as well as other ranking parameters. For practical purposes, there isn't a whole lot of difference between UK, Missouri, South Carolina, LSU, Tennessee, except that each school has its own set of academic strengths and weaknesses. But there is a more significant difference between UK and UL, both in terms of academic objectives and in terms of methods employed to achieve them. And if someone wants to compare Vandy and UK, the same is true there, too. Vandy is in a different class, because it is a private school with a big endowment. But of all the SEC and ACC schools mentioned on the thread, UL is the academic laggard of the bunch. All the double talk in the world won't change that.
Cholly Strong another in the revolving door of coaches at City College..Steelers believes SEXtino won Husband of the Year right after he porked Sypher..
U of L is an academic laggard because of what its original academic mission was as decided by the state legislature. UK has been provided the academic advantage because it is the state university. U of L and the state colleges (EKU, WKU, etc.) all had different missions. UK was afforded the prime choices when it came to course offerings and backing. Every school has grown and improved. The State colleges all became universities and U of L changed from a private school and joined the state university system. Since this is a FB board lets look at FB player graduation. Based on the NCAA (2013-14) UK FB has a GSR of 64 vs 62 for U of L. While U of L has an APR of 977 vs 945 for UK. Here are the sources of my info. http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/division-i-graduation-success-rates-search and http://collegecompletion.chronicle.com/
I've read this thread from the beginning, when it was a comment on a CJ article that someone saw as negative, when it was actually positive for UL. I graduated from both schools. I have a bachelor's degree from UK, and two advanced degrees, one from each school. The original premise of this thread was making fun of UL because it is the worst academic school in the ACC, which we would be too. I love UK and have bled blue since the late 30's. I have granddaughters at each school right now. One is studying engineering at UK that I encouraged to go to UL because of Speed School, and one studying medicine at UL that I encouraged to go to UK. In the professional community, no one cares where you went if you went to either of these schools. If you went to UL or UK and are competing against Harvard, you lose. I have caught so much flack on this discussion board for being critical of UK fans, of which I am one (I've learned to not say I'm the biggest UK fan ever, because everyone criticized me), but this is the type of discussion that makes the entire sports community criticize us. Neither school is hitting homeruns academically. Our kids go there because it is close or they got scholarships. If your kids go their over better schools because you like the football or basketball team, you are raising your kids wrong. Why don't you all go back to talking about how we are going to beat UL in football, instead of showing your ignorance discussing things that none of you really care about? Right? If we win in football and basketball every year, most, if not all of us, don't care about the academic ratings. Those are a totally different story and surely have their own discussion boards somewhere. This board is about sports. We only make our university look stupid when we argue about things like this.
Because we are trying everything we can to make UL look bad instead of concentrating on football. If their institution rates lower than ours, it is not by a bunch. If we were in the ACC instead of them, we would be last. Why don't we criticize their linebackers instead of their academics? Glass houses as someone said. It makes us look like a bunch of bitches that will criticize anything to try to make ourselves look better. Why don't we take care of business? Let's beat them on the field, and then talk shit.
You do not think that what people read here is a reflection of the University? Especially when academics is the topic of discussion? Really? If you are correct, and you may be, it is definitely a reflection on the University's sports fans, which is similarly bad.
his due diligence was waiting til UK did their stadium renovation and then going bigger. it's a pr move more than anything any you know it.
if i were mitch the second ul broke ground on construction i would announce that i was boxing in the endzone and going 2,000 seats over ul's capacity. this would give jurich a decision.... does he go ahead and add another 3,000 seats to hope to stay ahead or does he play it cool and just go with the plan and let us pass them back up that quick?
Do you even realize what you are talking about? UL athletics are self funded and take no money from academics. Capital project just like at UK are funded through private donations and athletic dept money.
UL is pouring lots of money into academics and that was the story. The OP just decided since we are last in the ACC it must be bad.
Also while the US news shows UL 30 spots behind UK the data is old. At some point they will update and UL will move up.
UK guys need to get over the size issue. DO you think UL really cares what UK does? At some point you guys will no doubt add some seats. I doubt UL adds any more past 65,000.
the ul school gives money to the athletic dept. the UK athletic dept gives money to the school for academics. look it up... its a fact.
"They Live to beat us"...says it all that's why uavel will remain the Little Brother...forever..
Unless you are the lead sled dog..the view never changes.
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I agree wholeheartedly. My undergraduate was at a private university but I hold an advanced degree from UofL. Whether I held that degree from UK or UofL would have made exactly no difference in my life. I get the chest-thumping from UK being that this is a UK board. But chest-thumping only gets you so far. UK is a bigger institution and has been designated as the Commonwealth's flagship university. It should have more grants, money, etc. But if you look at the undergraduate profiles, the rankings (which are not indicative of an institution's worth but more the opinion held by the public in general), the graduate programs, and the like, there is virtually no difference between the UofL and UK if you take a holistic view of higher education in the US. Our legislature owes us more than providing two mediocre schools. Unless something drastic occurs in the next 15 years, I'll push my kids out of state for their higher education.
Petjurino, is a juvenile turd..Go back to Mommy's basement..What are you8 years old?
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Boyz_N-Blue, where was this info pulled from? The reason I ask is because we are the most profitable program in the nation and according to your chart, you guys pull in more money that we do. Sorry but this seems to be either a misrepresentation of facts or just plain incorrect.
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