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Didn’t Jordon say that Republicans buy tennis shoes too?
I bet Jordan's career average goes up 10 points if it were that easy for him when he played.There were two big rules changes at the end of Jordan's career that really differentiate the era Jordan played in from the era Lebron played in. The hand-checking rule and the defensive 3 second rule.
For most (or all) of MJ's career, defenders could use their hands to impede his progress. Defenses could also camp in the lane waiting to hammer Jordan (the Pistons loved doing that.) Lebron has never had to deal with either scenario. Lebron plays in an era where the rules make it easier for perimeter players to get an offensive advantage.
I bet Jordan's career average goes up 10 points if it were that easy for him when he played.
Sooo....we agree??? Don't agree??? You tell me.Until you factor in that teams can play quasi zone's now. Jordan was better than Lebron, because of heart and desire, not talent.
And if you haven't paid attention Lebron gets hammered all game long with no calls. He definitely doesn't get the Jordan treatment.
Until you factor in that teams can play quasi zone's now. Jordan was better than Lebron, because of heart and desire, not talent.
And if you haven't paid attention Lebron gets hammered all game long with no calls. He definitely doesn't get the Jordan treatment.
Jordan would find a way to beat Lebron one on one. I'll never be convinced otherwise. Also, I still do not think on court success can be debated between the two. Lebron is 3-5 in the finals. Enough said.
I agree.For those who watched both play every year of their life, I don't see how anyone could Question taking Lebron over Jordan. Lebron is the probably second or third best player I have ever seen and always will be. Jordan is always the best IMO. Kobe even has a better argument for Jordan to me.
If you think Lebron is getting "hammered" then you must be too young to remember NBA basketball in the 80's and 90's.
What is Frank talking about saying that there are a bunch of 6-6 centers in todays game? I'd be willing to bet that the average NBA player is bigger and longer than the guys in the past. Plus, Jordan had to get by fuggin Jeff Hornacek in the nba finals. Not the most difficult of people guarding him
What is Frank talking about saying that there are a bunch of 6-6 centers in todays game? I'd be willing to bet that the average NBA player is bigger and longer than the guys in the past. Plus, Jordan had to get by fuggin Jeff Hornacek in the nba finals. Not the most difficult of people guarding him
Can you imagine Hornacek guarding Lebron? It would be hysterical
Can you imagine Hornacek guarding Lebron? It would be hysterical
Kyrie Irving > Scottie Pippen.Jordan couldn't win squat until Bird and Magic got old. Didn't win squat until Pippen came along. LeBron has never had that kind of help.
Pippen and Rodman are both HOFers. So silly to think both Kyrie (in his young days at Cleveland) and Wade were better than both of those guys in their primes.Kyrie Irving > Scottie Pippen.
Dwayne Wade > Scottie Pippen.
The rest of the Bulls of that era were just role players feeding off those two except, perhaps, Rodman. But MJ had three titles before he ever played with that guy.
Kyrie and Wade will both be HOFers. And Kyrie was already an All-Star while LeBron was still playing in Miami. And like I said, Rodman wasn’t even around for MJ’s first three rings.Pippen and Rodman are both HOFers. So silly to think both Kyrie (in his young days at Cleveland) and Wade were better than both of those guys in their primes.
Hard to quantify which HOFer is better. But here are the facts. Jordan played with 2 other HOFers simultaneously in their primes. Lebron (if both Wade and Kyrie get in) only played with one at a time. Little differentKyrie and Wade will both be HOFers. And Kyrie was already an All-Star while LeBron was still playing in Miami. And like I said, Rodman wasn’t even around for MJ’s first three rings.
Kyrie and Wade will both be HOFers. And Kyrie was already an All-Star while LeBron was still playing in Miami. And like I said, Rodman wasn’t even around for MJ’s first three rings.
Please. Pippen was on the original Dream Team. LeBron got the Cavaliers to the NBA Finals his 1st time spent with them. Without looking it up, name the other starters on that team.Kyrie Irving > Scottie Pippen.
Dwayne Wade > Scottie Pippen.
The rest of the Bulls of that era were just role players feeding off those two except, perhaps, Rodman. But MJ had three titles before he ever played with that guy.
We’ll see what happens but there are worse players than Chris Bosh HOF.Hard to quantify which HOFer is better. But here are the facts. Jordan played with 2 other HOFers simultaneously in their primes. Lebron (if both Wade and Kyrie get in) only played with one at a time. Little different
The Cavs also added Kevin Love and JR Smith among others IIRC. LeBron wasn’t the only variable changing.Before Lebron came back to Cleveland how good were the Cavs with Kyrie? After MJ left for baseball how good were the Bulls with Pippen?
The Cavs also added Kevin Love and JR Smith among others IIRC. LeBron wasn’t the only variable changing.
The Cavs also added Kevin Love and JR Smith among others IIRC. LeBron wasn’t the only variable changing.Before Lebron came back to Cleveland how good were the Cavs with Kyrie? After MJ left for baseball how good were the Bulls with Pippen?
There were two big rules changes at the end of Jordan's career that really differentiate the era Jordan played in from the era Lebron played in. The hand-checking rule and the defensive 3 second rule.
For most (or all) of MJ's career, defenders could use their hands to impede his progress. Defenses could also camp in the lane waiting to hammer Jordan (the Pistons loved doing that.) Lebron has never had to deal with either scenario. Lebron plays in an era where the rules make it easier for perimeter players to get an offensive advantage.
I think MJ could defend him.Lebron could do a decent job of defending MJ, but how would MJ defend Lebron?
Lebron is one of the most criticized top 10 players anywhere. His every move is scrutinized and picked more than any other athlete while Jordan is a memory and we remember the positives more than the negatives. That's why you can't chase a ghost.
Lebron could do a decent job of defending MJ, but how would MJ defend Lebron?
Lebron is one of the most criticized top 10 players anywhere. His every move is scrutinized and picked more than any other athlete while Jordan is a memory and we remember the positives more than the negatives. That's why you can't chase a ghost.
I think MJ could defend him.
Kyrie Irving > Scottie Pippen.
Dwayne Wade > Scottie Pippen.
The rest of the Bulls of that era were just role players feeding off those two except, perhaps, Rodman. But MJ had three titles before he ever played with that guy.