OT: Barkley says the bad boy Pistons would break Stephen Curry. No they wouldn't.
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encourage you to look at the career numbers. Don’t know if dell is even a quarter tbh.
Not really and it isn't a knock on Dell.
Steph 4 titles, 9x All Star, 2x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 4x 1st Team All NBA, 2x scoring leader, 1x steal leader.
Dell has 0's for all of the above.
Dell was a good role player. Steph is a Hall of Famer.
Dell Curry vs. Stephen Curry Comparison
Head-to-head comparison between the NBA stars Stephen Curry and Dell Curry that includes championships won, honors and awards obtained, regular season and playoffs stats and other data put side by side.
It’s true, as a 42 year old myself I remember back in the olden days of 1993 where we used to exercise with hay bails and leather straps - they hadn’t invented these gyms you speak of. My basketball team started 3 midgets and a donkey and the 100m dash winner only had a time of 8.64 - compared to the last Olympics of 8.61 due to the highly evolved human species of the last 20 years. Humans are barely recognizable from 20 years ago as that’s how quickly species evolve. Seriously this post sounds like it was made by a 13 year old and cracked me up 😂
Because today's top college athletes stay 1 year so they are in college for 1 year and are 18/19 years old, isn't that an obvious answer? Imagine Anthony Davis or Zion staying for 4 years, it would be nuts. The college game has NEVER seen a player like year 4 Anthony Davis, because today's athletes are so insanely athletic.
Which would then add a ton of parity. Kansas having Joel Embiid and Wiggins for 3 years would steer recruits to smaller schools.
I can’t wait for you to be older and then here in 25 years people will talk about how Luka has 10% body fat and how he drank beer before playoff games (literally did that last year with the photo circulating around), how the Joker was the best player and was a shlubby guy and has a 5 inch vertical, how Giannis can’t hit a FT after 10 minutes, and how small Steph Curry is, and how horrible those players are and how they wouldn’t compete in “todays NBA” as you chuckle at how silly they are.
I’m sure those players I mentioned would be good 25 years later as well. I’m sure Tiger Wiods would be good in 25 years. I’m sure Bo Jackson would be good today, etc. As a matter of fact, people are evolving to be less athletic over time. If you were stuck in a cage with a caveman he would murder you in 5 seconds. We’re becoming smarter but less athletic over time.
With these conversations I always like to look at the 100m dash. Just a simple measure of “athleticism”. Let’s go back 100 years where a guys named Harold Abrahams won with a time of 10.6. At that time:
-They ran on dirt
-Had canvas shoes
-Had a world population with SIX BILLION LESS PEOPLE
-Had limited involvement of Black Athletes
-Had no sports science
-Had minimal if any weight training equipment
-Had NO STEROIDS OR PEDS
-Had no trainers
And this guy that ran it ran it .8 seconds slower that Usain Bolt did when he won the gold. 😂 After all these “amazing athletes and nutrition” we couldnt even get 1 second faster than some British guy 100 years ago. And you guys are saying the best bball player in the world 25 years ago couldn’t possibly be dominant today 😂
I think we are arguing different things. If you’re referencing Jordan I think he would be dominant today.
It's not "guys" plural ...instead I think it's just one guy who's posting under two different names in this thread to try make it look like it's more than one (notice the similarity in wording/post count).
It's the same dumbassed schtick that troll has pulled in countless other threads. And he constantly creates new names to do it. He thinks he's being clever when really he's just showing what a weirdo loser he is.
MJ would be dominant today, no doubt, he is an outlier. Shaq would too. However, some of the other big plodding centers, Ewing and Alonzo Mourning for example, I don't think would be all-stars today. The game is too spaced out and their elite rim protection wouldn't be as useful when teams are just shooting threes.
All I'm trying to say is Curry is dominant today, and he would have been even more dominant 30 years ago. Lebron is dominant today, and he would have dominated the league 30 years ago. I truly believe Lebron would beat Bird 1on1 to 10 by a score of like 10-2. Guys are just too big and athletic now.
Idk about the plodding centers because some teams still get away with having them today.
Curry would absolutely torch any era you place him in. The far and away best shooter the world has ever seen. Taking 12 3s a game and making over 42% of them is one of the most incredible stats I’ve ever seen. Not to mention he’s not just catch and shooting wide open 3s either.
I think Larry Bird and lebron are both similar in the fact that they affect the game much more then just playing Iso 1 on 1 ball.
Back in 1995 the best player was probably Hakeem Olajuwon, today the best player is probably Jokovic. I think they’re extremely similar, honestly Hakeem is probably more athletic. I definitely see what you mean about the way they play - but if they grew up now they would be playing a completely different style, shooting 3s in practice, learning more ball handling, etc. If a person was dominant in a sport 20 years ago I find it hard to believe they wouldn’t be extremely good today.
Anyone that plays today would have been fine playing then. They would have grown up playing with the rules and adjusted
The one thing that doesn't change??!!? Steph makes shots from 40 ft like it's 8 ft
The one thing that doesn't change??!!? Steph makes shots from 40 ft like it's 8 ft
Yes, AD and Zion are a generational talent. Still doesn't explain why these guys who can jump high and run fast don't seem to have the ability to play great defense once they enter the NBA. Another trait AD and Zion seem to share is they are injury prone.
Since people are talking about Jordan and today's NBA, I find it funny that some fans believe Jordan wouldn't dominate the league now when a player like DeMar DeRozan is getting votes for MVP.
You just made the case for why todays players are the best. Anytime athletes refine their craft over time they become better.
"They would have to become better ball handlers and shoot the ball way better".... Isn't that the nuts n bolts of what the game is?!
It's a much more efficient way of playing today vs 1995 ... One of the reasons, players have became better at the skills of basketball. They got rid of the non sense that isn't a skill of the game ... Hard fouls ect..
The argument isn’t todays players are the best - at least that’s not my argument (you can even read the first post I made). What I’m saying is if Hakeem Olijuwon were 25 today he would be a great player. If Bo Jackson, Tiger Woods etc were 25 today, Jesse Owens, Larry Bird. If they were great 30 years ago I think they’d be great today. Humans haven’t evolved to be inherently more athletic in 2 generations.
The funny part is 30 years from now we will probably see young fans posting about how guys like LeBron, AD and Giannis were bums and couldn't compete with the new modern NBA players and their superior athletes.
It will absolutely happen with Joker, Luca, and Curry. Will say Joker is too unathletic, luka too fat and slow, Curry too small. Might even say Durant is too scrawny. 100%
Jordan was not a good shooter from 3. So saying if he grew up now it would be different isn’t a fair take IMO. We wouldn’t be saying wilt could 3s if he grew up now.
Career 33% but never took more than 3.6 per game. If you think MJ wasn't capable of making himself a better 3 point shooter, then you haven't read or seen much about him. I mean, the dude averaged 30.1 for his career and that's including 23 ppg and 20 ppg his last two years with the Wizards. He clearly didn't need to take 15 3s per game.
Yeah why would you take 15 3s per game when you shot 32.7% on 1.7 a game in your career (wow that’s way worse than I thought) lol. He couldn’t shoot, it is okay to admit that. If he was capable of shooting better from 3, he would have, he just couldn’t.
This will be my last engagement with you because you clearly don't understand basketball.
1. The game was WAY different in the 80s and 90s. NOBODY was shooting 12 3s a game; hell very few TEAMS were.
2. Jordan didn't HAVE to shoot 3s; he shot 50% from the floor and had a career average over 30 ppg, so for you to say "he couldn't shoot" is asinine.
3. Do you consider Larry Bird a "good shooter"? (it's rhetorical, please don't respond or quote me). Bird was a career 38% 3 point shooter, on 1.9 att per game. WIDELY considered as a great shooter, some would say among the best of all time. THE GAME WAS DIFFERENT AS IT PERTAINS TO THREE POINT SHOOTING....
I stand by what I said earlier about Barkley’s comments being silly and Curry being an all-time great, but acting like Jordan couldn’t shoot may be taking things too far to the other extreme. He was a known perfectionist, but played in a time when the prevailing wisdom was that shooting the 3 was a novelty that was unreliable at best as a winning strategy, so he probably didn’t focus on it much. I’m not saying he would have been the best pure shooter of all-time or anything, but he probably could have done a little better than 32% if it was something he actually worked at regularly. Context like that is what makes comparing across eras difficult.
I don’t do hypotheticals and what if he practiced more on it. He was not a good shooter from deep. There is nothing wrong with that. I understand they didn’t shoot many. When he did, they didn’t go in.
Larry Bird and MJ got those numbers against a bunch of plumbers, not very impressive IMO.
Don't think they would. The best players would learn and do learn how to adapt to the game and get themselves in position to continue to be great. The Pistons destroyed MJ, and he adapted to it. Curry has adapted to the game by developing his 3 point shot, and popularizing it. Think of the top players in the game now, and in the NBA's past. They all have had to adapt in some way to continue being great.
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