OSU's National Championship...and effects on KY
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Idk what impact juggernaut OSU winning it all has on UK.
Don't see it helping or hurting recruiting. They already get whoever they want anyways.
Don't see it helping or hurting recruiting. They already get whoever they want anyways.
We really don't recruit Ohio as much as we used to.
5 players this year. Only 3 last year.
Ohio helped build the team in early years, but lots of new places for last 7 or 8 years.
I wouldn't worry Ohio State as much as Illinois, Maryland, Indiana. Used to attract good players to play in the sec. Now they've won two national championships. Had 3 of post 4 participants. USC, UCLA trips. Harder sell.
5 players this year. Only 3 last year.
Ohio helped build the team in early years, but lots of new places for last 7 or 8 years.
I wouldn't worry Ohio State as much as Illinois, Maryland, Indiana. Used to attract good players to play in the sec. Now they've won two national championships. Had 3 of post 4 participants. USC, UCLA trips. Harder sell.
ND being relevant probably affects us more. IU as well.
Belichick at UNC. He tried to snag our lead recruiter which tells ya the area and recruits he’s going after.
Then SC’s balls dropping this year. Cocks with a big swinging set will be strutting around the trails chest out.
Belichick at UNC. He tried to snag our lead recruiter which tells ya the area and recruits he’s going after.
Then SC’s balls dropping this year. Cocks with a big swinging set will be strutting around the trails chest out.
We hardly ever have won a recruiting battle vs. Ohio St for an Ohio kid. There are a few kids they strung along (Lynn Bowden) and tried to jump on late....but for the most part Ohio St winning a Natty...those kids are kids we are getting regardless.
Notre Dame...again we don't really run up against them often for kids...
Now the Wisconsin, Michigan to a degree, Mich St, Penn St, Mizzou, Ole Miss, Miss St, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee due to location, etc...those are the schools that impact our talent base mostly.
Notre Dame...again we don't really run up against them often for kids...
Now the Wisconsin, Michigan to a degree, Mich St, Penn St, Mizzou, Ole Miss, Miss St, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee due to location, etc...those are the schools that impact our talent base mostly.
Ohio State doesn't recruit the same dudes we do and if they do, they usually get them anyway so I would last night was irrelevant to our recruiting. Dame is always going to be in the lead for catholic kids - that is their built in pipe line, but while they don't sign a lot of 5 stars, they do sign mostly upper level 4 stars, so we really aren't their comp either
I like recruiting Big 10 Territory for kids who want to play SEC football in warmer destinations, but who are still relatively close enough to home their families can come to home games. Also, I think we should put more focus on Southern Ohio and the Cincinnati area as long as Scott Satterfield is coaching up there. Surely Cincy isn't an attractive destination for many of those kids under Satterfield and we're just up the road.
Also, I’d be less worried about OH talent and more interested in TX, Fla, CA, talent.
The Ohio Valley and middle America talent hasn’t really netted us much.
The top end talent may be great but as has been established it’s spoken for.
The rank and file isn’t as deep. Whereas 3 and lower 4 star talent from the other above mentioned areas is better.
The Ohio Valley and middle America talent hasn’t really netted us much.
The top end talent may be great but as has been established it’s spoken for.
The rank and file isn’t as deep. Whereas 3 and lower 4 star talent from the other above mentioned areas is better.
I don’t think it matters? Osu recruits nationally since Meyer, and any local kid they want they were always going to get. Bowden would have gone had they offered. CJ Conrad went for a workout while committed to UK. Maybe there’s an exception and UK won a battle in OH vs OSU but I can’t think of one. If there is one it rarely happens enough to count on a national title making a difference.
Darrian Kinnard maybe but I thought he had moves from TN in HS. Mike Edward’s?
Darrian Kinnard maybe but I thought he had moves from TN in HS. Mike Edward’s?
This is like being concerned Brad Pitt is going to take your girl. We're not fishing from the same pond.
This. They and psu are spending so much money that we really aren't even pursuing the same guys anymore. These top nil teams are just in a different league.
None.
We'd be lucky to get first shot at anyone they would want. That's why identifying talent and developing, plus the portal, are more important than going up against them directly.
We'd be lucky to get first shot at anyone they would want. That's why identifying talent and developing, plus the portal, are more important than going up against them directly.
Might want to question whichever source shows that, because theyre pumping massive amounts of money into their program at every level. Theyre going to double if not triple our nil not to mention the other investment.
I was just speaking to what they have available. I'm guessing UK is spending a lot more, elsewhere, other than football.
The one way OSU’s success COULD help UK is that winning the NC gives the Buckeyes even more clout recruiting nationwide than they already had.
So, they may be more likely to get their primary/secondary targets. In the past, UK was really only going to compete with OSU if their top targets went elsewhere.
If those top targets now pick the Buckeyes, the trickle down effect would be a few more high 3 star and/or 4 star recruits in Ohio who wanted but never get an offer from OSU may be available for UK.
I wouldn’t expect much impact other than that scenario, and even that one isn’t going to be a big impact.
So, they may be more likely to get their primary/secondary targets. In the past, UK was really only going to compete with OSU if their top targets went elsewhere.
If those top targets now pick the Buckeyes, the trickle down effect would be a few more high 3 star and/or 4 star recruits in Ohio who wanted but never get an offer from OSU may be available for UK.
I wouldn’t expect much impact other than that scenario, and even that one isn’t going to be a big impact.
I think this is spot on. A stronger OSU national recruiting profile probably means we get a shot at more and better Ohio kids never courted or left at the altar.
I think the key is "who OSU wants.." The kids they really want, they get in OHIO. Urban Meyer turned them into a monster national recruiting machine which means they only go after 5 to 6 Ohio kids hard and offer a few others as a backup plan (stringing them on) in case they miss on a few of their national recruits
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No one will be double or tripling our player funds unless something big changes. The intention of the settlement is to essentially create a salary cap and if it receives final approval it will allow the NCAA to put guardrails on collectives which will prevent them from offering money to recruits and they can only receive funds for "work", not just for showing up, so no more money promised from the school to HS recruits before they show up. The anti-trust regulation they are working on in Congress will further cement the NCAA's ability to potentially outlaw collectives which will force each player to sign marketing deals directly with companies instead of the current system which allows a million dollar salary for doing nothing other than playing. If things play out like they are headed, then the top teams might have 30-50% more than us, which is much less of a gap than now.
I don't recall anything about a salary cap.
If you think noone is multiplying our nil, imo you are sorely wrong. Big 10 teams are paying insane money.
