Yes. We fund basketball and some other sports at a higher clip than our department revenue rankings. Football gets adequate money but it doesn’t get ‘take the next step’ money. We also do not do innovation well.
Oregon and Kentucky
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It’s the AD making choices. He took over and we were way behind in facilities etc in everything. Basketball didn’t have a practice facility while others did, football had nothing, etc. it wasn’t just Olympic sports behind. he chose to start facility building for secondary sports first before the cash cow and basketball which does generate profit at UK. We now have adequate football $ but it’s not the ‘let’s kick this thing in the rear’ level.
No but it does show how wealthy your alumni base is. Sports schools are obviously going to give more to sports than academics.
Yes but just pointing out alumni base wealth. UT has many millionaire donors. They can come up with money at the drop of a hat. Bama can get money but they rely on everyone giving something. Mich OSU Texas and places like that probably have more millionaire donors than any other school. Stanford has wealthy donors but aren't necessarily sports fans. I don't think most students at stanford even pay tuition... I think their endowment pays for it.
This is multiplied because there is a limited number of local SEC caliber players. Gwinnette County produces enough SEC level talent to win a NC
Sanford tuition is based on income, not sure of amounts but below an x amount everything is free, if family is wealthy they pay in full. And you are correct, they put their resources in other programs. All the big Texas schools have big money boosters, mostly from energy industry and can come up with big money quick. Oregon has Phil Knight, not sure where OSU money comes from, vols have some big boosters too. fsu has a lady who come up with some slimming spandex but she can't compete with the really big boosters. Rumor is Miami may have some foreign investors helping them.
The Ivy League schools and probably some others hire really smart economist/investors to run their endowments.
Ole Miss was beaten at home by UK. That team was likely to lay an egg in any conference. That said, there is no way in hell Notre Dame is in the playoff if it played in the SEC. It beat A&M in the first game. Laid its own egg at home against freaking NIU and then played a modest schedule that would have been nothing like what it would have played in the SEC. Heck, two of the “ranked” teams it played were service academies. People complained about IU getting into the playoffs. ND was no better than Ole Miss or Bama.
One difference between a 12 team playoff and a 4 team is that now we argue about which teams we know don’t deserve a shot at the NC but will get the shot, when before we may have (rarely) argued there was one left out that actually did deserve the shot.
Sounds like there should be a middle ground.....like a 6 or 8 team playoff....... huh......what a novel thought.........hmmmmm....
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Hiring Mike Bellotti as OC may have been the best move he made there.
Add on top of that the fact that Kentucky is competing with every major tradition power for recruits in the south and big10. Oregon is relatively close to the hotbed of California and only competing with Arizona, ASU, USC, UCLA, Colorado for recruits who don’t want to leave the western US. Oregon is at the top of that pecking order with USC and maybe current Colorado w neon Deion bring the only real competition.
There isn’t a magic number but you better around 20m in NIL in football to build a roster that can compete for a title. That will be a moving target depending on the market.
I would say 15m would give you a playoff roster if the right acquisitions were made. Money ball the shit out of it 12m-13M but you better have a soft schedule.
Then you have to deal with basketball. In the near future 10M-15M probably needed.
To be championship level it is crazy what will have to be invested. Do you money ball the shit out of football and invest at championship levels for the other sports. That is the question for the UK and Louisville type programs that have to get money from everyone.
I would say 15m would give you a playoff roster if the right acquisitions were made. Money ball the shit out of it 12m-13M but you better have a soft schedule.
Then you have to deal with basketball. In the near future 10M-15M probably needed.
To be championship level it is crazy what will have to be invested. Do you money ball the shit out of football and invest at championship levels for the other sports. That is the question for the UK and Louisville type programs that have to get money from everyone.
