Terrence Jones received more of a punishment from the UK when he was involved in minor car accident than Miller has in this situation.
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I’m a lawyer too! OP is not write. When I hear hoofs - I think horse. OP thinking Zebra. Come on man. Kentucky fan? Ok.
I’m a lawyer too! OP is not write. When I hear hoofs - I think horse. OP thinking Zebra. Come on man. Kentucky fan? Ok.
No way he shouldn't be charged. No way. They had to bend over backwards to avoid charging him.
If he was a random student rather than an incredible athlete, he'd be charged.
No one wants him "killed". All anyone wants is equal application of justice no matter who is the person of question.
If he was a random student rather than an incredible athlete, he'd be charged.
No one wants him "killed". All anyone wants is equal application of justice no matter who is the person of question.
I’m astounded by the amount of known facts people still get wrong. Miller did not block the murdered victims jeep in, the jeep actually pulled in and parked behind Miller. I have no idea what Miller knew and his culpability in the event but damn dudes at least get your facts straight when laying out your strongly worded opinion about why you think someone is guilty or not. Several in this thread repeating things that are now known to not be true.
Not saying your not a lawyer, and I make them to, but I can’t see lawyers making the amount of grammatical errors you made in this paragraph to prove a point LOL
You are FOS the Tuscaloosa police reported he pulled his car in the parking space in front of her car.
What happens every day? You are correct Brandon Miller is the only reason this case is relevant. Funny enough, that’s also the reason the guy who brought a gun to an individual who then proceeded to immediately use it in a homicide is not charged for his involvement.
I didn’t say the police didn’t do their job. I know what their job is and how politics gets involved. As others have said, they had to find a way NOT to charge him.
Funny how when police are involved in an obvious self defense justifiable shooting, it is common practice to present it to a grand jury for transparency these days. But when a college athlete is involved in a case like this, the DA just decides to make the call because that’s the “right call”.
Prince I don’t know you and you don’t know me. Given that, don’t assume things about me or my understanding of the situation. I didn’t make assumptions about you, please respect me enough to do the same.
Doubt there was traffic at 2am… but yeah i guess you can look at the travel distance and text time and figure out if you can assume he saw the text or was already in route
They(DA) have to feel like there is nothing Miller could have done to prevent the shooting or at least nothing they could prove.
Miller claims he didn't see the text from Miles
Claims he didn't know the gun was in the clothing.
Claims he wasn't there to participate in a conflict with other people .
Did not give Miles the gun.
Did not block anyone in.
Did not drive a "getaway" car for the suspects.
Exactly this.
There are a few things that have made this thing troubling to many of us on here.
I think first and foremost, we didn't even know he was involved until the court statements, Bama didn't even suspend him while things were under investigation. This is the beginning of a shadow cast upon the culture at Bama.
That culture is further called into question by allowing a mime of searching for weapons and patting down Miller during starting line up intros and the unimaginably dismissive and tone deaf comments from the coach.
The other part is just how wrong the whole thing feels. Sure, the statement his attorney made paints him in a glowing light; an angel who was also a victim of the circumstances. They are relying on things that you cannot prove. He didn't see the text? Well that's convenient, and also not provable one way or the other. Even if he had read receipts on you can still read messages from the lock screen without triggering those. When's the last time you've seen a teenager not have their phone in their hand?
Based on the evidence that's been released and the DAs decision to not charge him it appears he will not face any repercussions. But that doesn't absolve him, it just means he won't have to face a jury of his peers and any justice they may enact.
And much of the optics of this whole scenario surrounding Brandon could have been shaped if the University had any semblance of dignity and suspended him during the investigation and then reinstated him after the DA decision.
As a few videos I saw online discussed the code of conduct of the school and 4 or 5 statutes Brandon may have violated, there were plenty of options to take the cautious route and not make your University look like an absolute pile of reviled dog shit.
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That is not what the Tuscaloosa police originally reported. They may have changed their narrative to make him more innocent but originally they reported he pulled into the parking space blocking the jeep from leaving.
Law enforcement testified last month that vehicles belonging to Miller and Alabama guard Jaden Bradley had been parked and were blocking the road where Harris’ vehicle was parked at the time.
Looks like Law Enforcement testimony states directly that Miller’s vehicle was blocking the victims vehicle. Prince you are wrong about this as displayed here by direct testimony in open court.
Jeep pulled behind Miller not the other way around. Janea"s vehicle had every opportunity in the word to drive away. Her boyfriend was not thinking of her or his other passenger. He wanted to escalate also.
I don’t think that is the case at all. Have read many early reports of the incident and there is never a mention of Miller blocking them in. Sounds like it was always conjecture which not sure why as it was stated that the jeep drove away after the shooting which never made sense if they were blocked in.
Maybe.
All of us could be wrong about one thing or another until the trial is over and all the facts are laid out.
If I'm wrong about the location of vehicles then the ESPN reporter is also wrong..
Brandon Miller and the murder case clouding March Madness, explained
As the men’s college basketball season heads toward the start of the NCAA Tournament, one thing has become clear to players, coaches, pundits and fans who catching up before they fill out their brackets: It’s Brandon Miller’s year.
www.spokesman.com
You can read the portion about miller’s vehicle right here. It seems both of you missed my post above yours.
Hmmm ESPN reporter, actual trial transcripts taken from testimony under oath. Which should I believe?!
Jalen Carter raced his car and left the scene of an accident where 2 people died (or one died and the other died as a result).
He wasn’t even in an accident himself.
The Athens police at least arrested him and charged him with a crime.
He can still be exonerated through the legal process.
He wasn’t even in an accident himself.
The Athens police at least arrested him and charged him with a crime.
He can still be exonerated through the legal process.
This is what the modern world calls for now. This is transparency. What Tuscaloosa Police and/or their DA have done, in conjunction with the University of Alabama, is far from what is expected today. It stinks of improper action taken by one or more parties involved in this case.
This dude is not a lawyer
I said as much but tried to be more tactful than you. Lol you got me rolling with this matter of fact statement.
I am going by the WDRB report on the original shooting report. Their was no mention on Miller at this time. The Reporter said that Tuscaloosa police had told them that Miles and the shooter had pulled into the parking space blocking the murdered persons exit. This was weeks before we found out it was Miller's car. I am sure the truth is somewhere between the original report and the final report.
The fact is Miller should have left as soon as the gun was retrieved from his car. And let's assume he was a idiot and had no clue they took the gun from his car, why did he not leave immediately when the shots started. As far as going to the police station it sounds like something a lawyer told him to do to try and minimize his exposure.
I just think the right thing to have happened was from him to be suspended until the trial has taken place.
All those factors listed go directly to intent. Intent is always a question for the jury and way way way beyond the miniscule standard for indictment. At this stage, their burden of proof is practically zero. None regarding intent. Many were charged or indicted on much weaker cases and many more, every day, will be as well.
If he was joe bob plumber he would already be charged. Instead he's a superstar athlete so he gets a different justice system. It isn't fair and it's hilarious and pathetic watching people like you try to defend it.
I think this is just more proof of what’s wrong with our Justice system. Since 2020, we have gone from holding most accountable for their actions, to holding almost no one accountable for their actions. Society is at a tipping point and we are dangerously close to going off the ledge and losing control. We are expected to all play by the same rules, however those rules are never put into practice for a select few.
So honest question, is there a publicly available transcript of the actual word for word testimony that the detective gave in the hearing? My suspicion is that the apparent contradiction may be because reporters read their own assumptions and interpretations into his actual words because I never see a direct quote from him cited just that he “testified that Miller’s car was blocking the street” or some similar variation. It’s since been credibly reported that surveillance footage shows that the Jeep pulled in behind Miller after he was already parked, meaning he couldn’t have possibly intentionally blocked them, but people like to ignore that and claim it contradicts police testimony even though it may not.
As for why he wasn’t suspended to allow an investigation to play out, it seems that the investigation did play out, it’s just that he was cleared within 24-48 hours, so there wasn’t really a need to announce anything.
As for why he wasn’t suspended to allow an investigation to play out, it seems that the investigation did play out, it’s just that he was cleared within 24-48 hours, so there wasn’t really a need to announce anything.
But 2 misdemeanors is what he was charged with, which meant no consequences. But his character sure was exposed wasn't it? And if he had another year at Georgia?
Derion Kendrick was asleep in his car with an illegal gun and some weed. He was arrested and released. Dabo kicked him out of the program and shock, he walks right into Georgia and somehow all charges are erased. Justice reigns.
As long as you keep making exceptions, these type of incidents will continue.
Didn't UK give some suspensions for the air soft gun incident?
Here's what I know.
If he played at Kentucky, this story would be 10x bigger and all the other college basketball fans would call for him to be benched until this is figured out. And honestly, he probably SHOULD be benched just for the optics of this. I bet most of our fans would be OK with that.
I don't know to what degree of involvement he has in this, but the way Alabama is handling it seems to be in very poor taste.
If he played at Kentucky, this story would be 10x bigger and all the other college basketball fans would call for him to be benched until this is figured out. And honestly, he probably SHOULD be benched just for the optics of this. I bet most of our fans would be OK with that.
I don't know to what degree of involvement he has in this, but the way Alabama is handling it seems to be in very poor taste.
Guys get into trouble and re-emerge other places a lot.
I don’t know about the charges and why they were dropped. At least he was arrested. 😉
Not sure what would have happened to Carter had he had another season at UGA.
At least they were willing to embarrass him during the biggest job interview of his life.
Georgia did dismiss a player for sexually assaulting a girl last year. Probably could have swept that one away, too, had they so chosen.
Meanwhile, in Tuscaloosa, a lady was murdered, and the person who delivered the gun hasn’t been charged with anything because he doesn’t read his text messages.
Agree except it started well before then. Probably 20 years ago or so. Before that, the wealthy always had a great chance at beating the system because they could afford the best.
Then at some point it just morphed into a world where the elite now are just practically immune from even being charged or indicted which avoids the need to beat the system altogether.
This is a great example. Anyone else would be indicted for sure. All the work by the police and prosecutors have been to exonerate him rather than just equally and normally apply the law and procedure.
I’m a lawyer. Also I don’t know how to spell basic words. GTFO.
and the shooting starts within minutes of Miller's arrival(per transcript timeline) Maybe officials decide not to charge Miller for whatever reason but the school or the SEC should have suspended him as soon as his involvement came to light.
I thought I did by posting the officers testimony and then linking the article if you or others still had doubts….. Do you have another update?
Originally it was said that the girls car was blocked in. They may have changed it but I remember that part. Miller should have been suspended until the trial and all the facts was out. Just hard to believe they would not do that. No lawyer even had time to get things together. We all know you are talking about months of getting everthing ready for a trial of this magnitude.
I can tell you who is FOS if you believe he had no knowledge of what was going to happen.
It’s common knowledge via video evidence that the jeep pulled in behind miller and parked after miller had pulled in and parked behind Bradley. Kind of strange, seems alot here just want him to be guilty despite what facts are available. We know miles text him to bring him his gun, we know Miller was already on his way back when the text was sent. What we don’t know is how long after the text was sent did Miller arrive back on the scene and do we know if miller even saw the text. I drive with my phone in my hand almost at all times, many have been conditioned not too though and rightfully so. No way to really tell if miller knew or not but many here are like “oh yeah he knew, he knew exactly what was going on and deserves to be in jail”. Sad situation all the way around but no one knows anything as to what he knew and what he didn’t except for Miller himself.
When was the last time a high profile player on a team in the conference was this close to a murder?
So if he comes back and Miles starts rummaging through his clothes, you do not think you would ask what are you looking for? If he didn't ask don't you think you would see the gun when he finds it because you would probably be watching him search. This all assumes he never saw text which most rational people know is BS. What kind of car was he driving? Does the car post and read texts on the dash screen? If you want no part of what is about to happen do you not think you would leave immediately upon Miles retrieval of the gun? The facts are what law enforcement and DA want them to be because too many things contradict what a reasonable man would conclude.
