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OMG an actual good idea

How is it trash? If anything, the college game has been better the last few years in my eyes. When players stay around longer, you've got more better players. It's a better product.
Yep. Having older players has been good for the game.
 
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Just depends on how you frame it. In practicality, this would change eligibility from 4 to 5 years, and penalize anyone who doesn’t “play ball” with their original school…for whatever reason.

As a Kentucky fan, I’m just hopeful that Pope does a great job of identifying kids who are inclined to grow with the program and stay long term. That every year isn’t about roster turnover and bidding wars.

I think we’re on the right track, but it’s early yet.

It would help schools In a sense that for a guy transferring their NIL deal would have to be worth at least 2 years at their current school. Could help roster stability somewhat but I doubt it ever gets past. Only a salary cap will fix a lot of issues, structure it like the pros. Guys who are on one team are eligible for a bigger max than if they get traded or seimthing like it.
 
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Without reading the whole thread up to the point of my post, it wouldn't work because as much as (( I )) [no, that's not a naughty ascii drawing] want college sports to be about the college EDUCATION first (and play in exchange for the free education), the NBA has no regard for the college game. Has the NCAA ever approached the NBA about some sort of agreement like "2 years of college before being drafted, unless you come straight out of highschool"? If so, what was the NBA's response?
The NBA won’t go along. I think it’s probably been addressed, and the NBA would rather have the players leave college ASAP and put them in the G league for further evaluation.
 
When it was just the coaches with the power to move whenever they wanted, all was well in college sports. It didn't matter about coaches lying to players about playing time and/or their longevity as coach to get them to sign. It didn't matter that the aforementioned acts of coaches would trap players into bad situations if they weren't willing to sit out a year. Some felt that this was normal even when coaches were leaving for more money or because of violations. Well, the pendulum has swung in the other direction, and I have no issues with it. Players deserve the right to leverage their talents to maximize their earning potential while they can because most won't go pro or get degrees. Most players are currently experiencing their greatest earning potential.
 
I mean… they could just go back to having limitations on transfers.

This. Imo it isnt even a hard legal argument to make. The current perceived state of the law is there cant be any limitations on athletes because there are none on regular students. The limitations on athletic participation following a transfer squarely fits even in this wobbly state of the law.

Schools just need to point out they arent saying a student athlete can't transfer. They can transfer wherever they want without limitations. However the allowed participation is something above and apart from the actual scholastic transfer.

If schools cant put reasonable limits on participation, why can there be any eligibility limitations, scholarship numbers, or anything that prevents any regular student from just showing up demanding to be on the team.
 
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This. Imo it isnt even a hard legal argument to make. The current perceived state of the law is there cant be any limitations on athletes because there are none on regular students. The limitations on athletic participation following a transfer squarely fits even in this wobbly state of the law.

Schools just need to point out they arent saying a student athlete can't transfer. They can transfer wherever they want without limitations. However the allowed participation is something above and apart from the actual scholastic transfer.

If schools cant put reasonable limits on participation, why can there be any eligibility limitations, scholarship numbers, or anything that prevents any regular student from just showing up demanding to be on the team.
Exactly. It makes no damn sense.
 
This. Imo it isnt even a hard legal argument to make. The current perceived state of the law is there cant be any limitations on athletes because there are none on regular students. The limitations on athletic participation following a transfer squarely fits even in this wobbly state of the law.

Schools just need to point out they arent saying a student athlete can't transfer. They can transfer wherever they want without limitations. However the allowed participation is something above and apart from the actual scholastic transfer.

If schools cant put reasonable limits on participation, why can there be any eligibility limitations, scholarship numbers, or anything that prevents any regular student from just showing up demanding to be on the team.
That’s not the legal argument against the transfer rules. The legal argument is on antitrust grounds.

And the NCAA agreed to drop transfer restrictions as part of settling the recent lawsuit brought by several state Attorneys General and joined by the DOJ. That settlement includes a pending consent decree that would permanently ban the NCAA from creating any new rules limiting the eligibility of transfers.
 
That’s not the legal argument against the transfer rules. The legal argument is on antitrust grounds.

And the NCAA agreed to drop transfer restrictions as part of settling the recent lawsuit brought by several state Attorneys General and joined by the DOJ. That settlement includes a pending consent decree that would permanently ban the NCAA from creating any new rules limiting the eligibility of transfers.

I didn't say it was. I said its the perceived state of the law. I say perceived because there was a negative ruling or two that made the NCAA sh1t its pants and give away the farm in the interest of self preservation.

Im also not talking about the ncaa. The ncaa is literally worthless and the sec big 10 growth clearly indicates they are close to just reforming another organization or just none at all.

So once these schools are out from under the ncaa banner, they will have more flexibility and can start trying to get some sensible limitations back in place. Courts will ultimately agree once theyre presented with reasonable arguments.
 
I didn't say it was. I said its the perceived state of the law. I say perceived because there was a negative ruling or two that made the NCAA sh1t its pants and give away the farm in the interest of self preservation.

Im also not talking about the ncaa. The ncaa is literally worthless and the sec big 10 growth clearly indicates they are close to just reforming another organization or just none at all.

So once these schools are out from under the ncaa banner, they will have more flexibility and can start trying to get some sensible limitations back in place. Courts will ultimately agree once theyre presented with reasonable arguments.
Switching from the NCAA to a new organization does not change the antitrust issue.

It is illegal for a group of competing organizations to come together and make an agreement on these types of rules. Whether they make that agreement under the auspices of the NCAA or some newly formed entity, it raise the same antitrust issues.
 
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