Yet there are some ppl here that were saying it was mainly Levis holding the ball too long lmao.
OLine has allowed TWENTYFIVE sacks. Most in SEC since 2007.
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In every one of Wills sacks at ole miss he had at least 3 seconds to get rid of the ball . The nfl average pass play takes 2.7 seconds for the ball to come out of the quarterbacks hand . It is absolutely something Will needs to work on so there’s no “lmao”. But our offensive line is bad .
Half the sacks, at least, are Qbs holding the ball or trying to escape the pocket instead of stepping up. That's just a fact.
OL play can definitely improve alot but let's keep some perspective.
Then that's a coaching problem. We've had two different QBs back there and it's the same result. You can't tell me that it's mostly on the QB? No way all the other teams have QBs that get it right and ours are that much worse at what they need to do..
Here's a stat I saw today.
Sacks allowed last season overall: 22
Sacks allowed this season in six games: 25
This is an unspeakably poor combination between the line (main contributor) and QBs holding the ball too long. It really makes you ill.
Sacks allowed last season overall: 22
Sacks allowed this season in six games: 25
This is an unspeakably poor combination between the line (main contributor) and QBs holding the ball too long. It really makes you ill.
I said they own at least half. It's a fact. Is it a coaching problem? Doubt it. Because you see will at times slide or step up. So they're being coached correctly. They just need to consistently apply it under pressure.
Can't really fault sheron. He's really not seen any game action. Under pressure he's definitely going to revert to bad habits. The fault there lies in never giving backup game reps in these games we're winning handily
I know I was going to post this. People were saying it was Levis being slow on decision making when the Oline was getting him killed every game. Now they are trying to say Sheron was slow on his feet too. 😂. Now they let a team that had 4 sacks on the year get 4 sacks in this game last night. Exactly wake up people our Oline is the worst it’s been in years and our biggest problem and the special teams kicking is a close 2nd!
Levis does hold it too long at times. But yeah, the bigger problem is the line. And I just don’t understand the circle the wagons mentality from those defending it atm.
Im neutral on Scrang. But Yesner has got to go if this keeps up. And sadly, I don’t see it changing. But I’m mean not knit is it unacceptable win wise. Now player safety is becoming a priority.
Unbelievable and they are not a bit better than week one, something has to change . We surely dont have that bad of players , several of these players where 4 star
This is confirmations bias. Yes there are occasions…a handful… where stepping up or a quicker release avoids a sack but all teams have those in their numbers too. Holding the ball or not stepping up into the pocket doesn’t create 25 sacks in 5 games
Yet you’re still absolutely wrong.
You create an estimate that he had “at least 3 seconds” and compare that to a fact that NFL average is 2.7 sec. The average includes quick slants and screens etc….you are only comparing our sack time to that. Our average pass play time would also be less than 3 seconds
combine it with Scang calling wayy too many plays were all 3 initial reads are running 10+ yard routes and hats a recipe to have pressure prior to your options getting into their breaks. And bc the OLine is so bad the RB is often still whiffing at a block instead of leaking out as a dump down option
I said half. And yes it does. You can rewatch the games or better yet just watch the van hiles breakdowns. His first half will be up tomorrow where you will see pretty much the same stuff where sheron tried to escape out instead of step up. In the sec, escaping out won't work.
When teams are blitzing on a high degree of snaps, qbs won't have all day. On nearly every sack this season they had at least three seconds. That's plenty of time.
Again can't really blame sheron because he never played. That's on the staff. Game plan was way too conservative. They treated him like a 4th string QB that played out of position. If he couldn't execute passes better than they acted, he has no business being in. That said, I thought he actually looked decent when the coaches and his teammates actually gave him a chance
I am not wrong about Will needing to work on getting rid of the ball . Lots of quarterbacks have that problem. Even ones in the nfl . Brett Farve was terrible about it. I’d still rather have that than a quarterback that “hears footsteps “ and throws it away or takes off running for no reason. Terry Wilson was like that .
Look at the sacks.....a good bit of them are indeed on the QB and/or OC coaching QBs on how to read blitz and get to hot routes.
1. First play of game....Sheron has to see safety is on the edge showing pressure and get us out of that play or CRod needs to keep it. 100% coaching is the flub or QB job to get us out of that play.
2. 1:15 mark...Bad Oline job of initial pressure by Cox....but Sheron steps away from pressure and can throw it away at any time...adn just takes an uneccessary sack.
3. 915 mark....this one is on the Oline....but look at the scheme. You're asking Buford to zone block (on a read option play fake) a guy lined up on Masnning....and reach block him inside of him where the QB is just sitting there......that is scheme and Ol
4. 9:52 mark....Sheron in shotgun had a perfectly clean pocket but he drifts back and tries to outrun edge rushers....that is not on OLline.....you can't leave your tackles hung out to dry like that.
5. 13:53 mark....CB blitz and Sheron doesn't see it...McClain needed to set the edge better as the RB. He is way too far inside and it disrupts Sheron too much.....but the Oline pocket was clean. That was a RB/QB issue...not the Oline
6. 15:33 mark....Sheron again....won't stay in pocket...floats back and tries to outrun defenders. Just see throw the ball
7. 16:15 mark...>Sheron again. Pocket is there....get rid of the ball. Instead he ducks his head and takes another sack vs. getting read of the ball.
I am not saying we have a good Oline...they are poor. But the QB not getting rid of the ball and running too many deep routes is as much the problem as the Oline.
1. First play of game....Sheron has to see safety is on the edge showing pressure and get us out of that play or CRod needs to keep it. 100% coaching is the flub or QB job to get us out of that play.
2. 1:15 mark...Bad Oline job of initial pressure by Cox....but Sheron steps away from pressure and can throw it away at any time...adn just takes an uneccessary sack.
3. 915 mark....this one is on the Oline....but look at the scheme. You're asking Buford to zone block (on a read option play fake) a guy lined up on Masnning....and reach block him inside of him where the QB is just sitting there......that is scheme and Ol
4. 9:52 mark....Sheron in shotgun had a perfectly clean pocket but he drifts back and tries to outrun edge rushers....that is not on OLline.....you can't leave your tackles hung out to dry like that.
5. 13:53 mark....CB blitz and Sheron doesn't see it...McClain needed to set the edge better as the RB. He is way too far inside and it disrupts Sheron too much.....but the Oline pocket was clean. That was a RB/QB issue...not the Oline
6. 15:33 mark....Sheron again....won't stay in pocket...floats back and tries to outrun defenders. Just see throw the ball
7. 16:15 mark...>Sheron again. Pocket is there....get rid of the ball. Instead he ducks his head and takes another sack vs. getting read of the ball.
I am not saying we have a good Oline...they are poor. But the QB not getting rid of the ball and running too many deep routes is as much the problem as the Oline.
At this point would almost rather go with the five with most potential so they can get the experience needed faster. They might as well be taking their lumps and getting better instead of a guy that is struggling getting any better right now. Who that would be have no idea. Just frustrating allowing this OL to destroy our team because of their lack of mental and physical toughness. No CR next year to make them look halfway decent.
Well for football bennies like yourself who think great running game must be great running back and bad running game must be the line can't open holes for him...what is the point.
- Was CRod that amazing (which I think he's a very good back) or Smoke/Wright really not that good at all (which is the more likely one) since it's such a night and day in running game last 2 games?
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