Hate both of them. Would rather have UL and Tennessee play in the title game. Won’t watch it
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So either one team wins their first title in 35 years or the other wins their first in a decade, third in 22 years.
Can’t believe you hate ND. I used to but when you haven’t done shit in forever, I don’t care as much. Don’t have any issues with Freeman. Hated Holtz though and Brian Kelly.
Tennessee! 😂. If UGA would have played them better then I guess ND gonna win it? They handled UGA.
Ohio State beat 2 SEC teams and the Big 10 Champ, been a fun playoff needs some tweaking however
Unless Notre Dame wins, this will be like only the second time in 100+ years a two loss team won a national title (without the BS claims of a share).
This idea that we should care how long it has been since a traditional power won a championship is crap. Who gives an eff? ND has the media kissing its arse every year. They don’t have the pressure of conference play. Cheering for OSU is hard, but they have earned their way to the NC.
What a terrible play call to run it wide and back at the two on second down? That was loser mentality.
How do you not QB sneak it as many as 4 times in a row from 1 yard line the with Manning?? He HAS to get in with 4 chances.
NBC is their media mouthpiece, ESPN runs the show and we know which group they love.
I don’t care either way. As long as it wasn’t Alabama or Georgia, I didn’t care who wins this season.
OSU has earned all of this and got hot at the right time. ND hasn’t had a cakewalk but Oregon and Texas is pretty dang tough.
Yeah, OSU went through a meat grinder - Tenn, Oregon and Texas - and earned their way to the championship game. Not a fan of either, but I hope they stomp "holier than thou" Notre Lame
ND is the weakest opponent OSU has faced n the playoff. Osu by 21.
The 07 LSU team won the NC with 2 losses. the team that UK beat in 3OT. And arky beat in OT as well.
If I had to pick 2 teams I would not want to win it all, it wou be tosu and nd. What a crapshow.
I wouldn't dismiss ND in this game, they just beat Ped state who gave tosu all they wanted. I don't think tosu is going to get 2 fluke td's this time.
I wouldn't dismiss ND in this game, they just beat Ped state who gave tosu all they wanted. I don't think tosu is going to get 2 fluke td's this time.
Yep. The 07 season was the craziest in my lifetime and so crazy that a two loss team won it all. That’s how jacked up it was when teams kept losing.
What? That would be Tennessee. And we have no idea how good Texas actually is since they didn’t beat anyone all year.
Notre Dame beat Georgia. I’ll still take OSU to win it but ND isn’t worse than Tennessee.
I'm a longtime Ohio State and Notre Dame hater so this one is tough. Ryan Day's been shit on by that fanbase for so long I'd be happy for him, and him alone, if they win it.
Ohio State is the better team, in football that is usually the determining factor. IF ND can force a few turnovers they might have a shot but I doubt it.
Tenn, Oregon, and Texas vs, IU, UGA with a true frosh QB, and PSU. The punishment OSU received by losing one of the most historic rivalry games in college football was great. I am hardly an OSU fan and I do not care how long it has been since it or any other power has won an NC, but I will be cheering for OSU, again.
When I was younger, I liked ND, but as college football progressed to a championship game, I have grown to hate the privilege ND gets as an independent storied program. The power conferences could have forced ND into a conference so it has to face the same type of pathway to this point, but no one seems to have the balls to do it.
When the NIL era began, I posted that I believed no school would benefit more than ND. Add the 12 team playoff to the mix and ND benefits more than any other program. Marcus Freeman seems like a great guy and is looking like an awesome hire, but I prefer ND lose.
Would be interesting to know, but its fair to guess the two biggest spenders are in the title game. I suspect that will continue to be a pattern and the same northern teams will continue to thrive until nil is reigned in.
Osu is paying a fortune in just coaching salaries.
Osu is paying a fortune in just coaching salaries.
Financially, it makes no sense to join a conference and I wouldn't either getting to keep all of my playoff money instead of sharing it. As a college football fan, I like the model of being able to schedule whoever you want and on paper going into the season, it was a pretty good schedule.
Preseason rankings of No. 10 FSU, No. 20 TAMU, No. 24 USC. Then when they did play the teams, Louisville, Army, and Navy were all ranked. There's times when you don't even get that i n the Big Ten. Unlike most of the last 30 years, they have proven they're legit this season. They're 4-0 vs the Big Ten which was the best conference, and 2-0 vs the SEC which includes the conference champ.
As far as the 12 team goes, there's no way they can ever get a bye without being in a conference, right?
Preseason rankings of No. 10 FSU, No. 20 TAMU, No. 24 USC. Then when they did play the teams, Louisville, Army, and Navy were all ranked. There's times when you don't even get that i n the Big Ten. Unlike most of the last 30 years, they have proven they're legit this season. They're 4-0 vs the Big Ten which was the best conference, and 2-0 vs the SEC which includes the conference champ.
As far as the 12 team goes, there's no way they can ever get a bye without being in a conference, right?
I thought Texas and Oregon spent more than Notre Dame? I thought Georgia was right there with ND as well but could be wrong on them.
Georgia is definitely way down the list. Oregon probably did spend that much. Texas spent a good deal too but lots of it sunk into a backup qb that should've been the starter. Even so, texas and Oregon were right there too which further proves my point.
The across the board spend from these programs is nuts. Both teams in the title game are spending over 2 mil on each coordinator. God knows what they are spending on position coaches. Add in their across the board roster spend and the total cost is crazy.
So if anyone thinks uk is competing on that level anytime soon, better think again. It sucks but expectations need to be adjusted at least until nil is reigned in.
Notre Dame needs a conference. The only way ND survives without a conference is if there were no conferences for football. It needs the ACC to bow down so the ACC can have a modicum of football respectability so it, ND, can have a conference for its non-revenue sports, including basketball. The weak ACC provides that to ND.
The idea that the huge monetary football teams should leave conferences to greedily maximize their profits is an idea that would do even more damage to UK and other programs.
That said, how many teams could truly negotiate network deals, rather than work as a collective in the form of a conference? Not many.
The end result would be as some have predicted. A super conference made up of about 32 teams. Otherwise known as the Gleague of the NFL. Maybe that is where this is all headed.
The idea that the huge monetary football teams should leave conferences to greedily maximize their profits is an idea that would do even more damage to UK and other programs.
That said, how many teams could truly negotiate network deals, rather than work as a collective in the form of a conference? Not many.
The end result would be as some have predicted. A super conference made up of about 32 teams. Otherwise known as the Gleague of the NFL. Maybe that is where this is all headed.
Lol there is prob only 2 teams I would want ND to beat and that is U6 and Tenn. I would pull for the taliban or isis against them. 😝
They will never get a bye if they keep that in tact. They could be undefeated, the clear #1 team in the nation and the highest they will be is a 5 seed.
As for ND and not being in a conference…I’ve always chuckled at people who think that means they always play a weak schedule. Their schedule every year includes 5 ACC schools, USC and Navy. Stanford used to be an annual opponent, but I believe they join the ACC rotation now.
They then play a number of P4 games outside of those 7. Next year, they have Texas A&M, Arkansas and Purdue and also have Boise State.
Their biggest advantage, until now, has been that they haven’t had to play a conference championship game. Now, I’m not sure it matters.
Their biggest advantage has been $$$$$. And, then conference championship. Acting as if playing a partial ACC schedule is a big deal is kind of funny, but that rabbit hole is what it is.
In the current era, a conference team may have a down schedule (for the B1G and SEC, that still means a lot of tough teams), but the best two teams (those considered for the 12) have to play a very tough game at season end, regardless. ND gets that bye (but let’s not pretend if ND were in the B1G or SEC a conference championship would be a regular gig - it would not, at least historically in the pre-NIL era).
If the playoff gods change the seeding for The 12, and it should, ND should never get a bye, because it never has to play a conf championship game. Boise State should never get a bye, for obvious reasons.
You know 20 years ago, if you said you had a conference that was FSU, Miami, Clemson, VaTech, and Notre Dame as a defacto member, people would think it would be at the top. Now that’s mostly like catching the pretty girl from high school as a fat 40 something ready to settle down. 😂 Clemson and FSU have had some good years the last decade so hopefully that returns.
But in terms of conference championship games, I’d really like to do away with them. I think they’re BS and the regular season champ should be the auto bid. This would stop an unnecessary game and also not give a chance for say a Clemson to have made it (I mean it’s cool that every game matters but this just seems an unnecessary thing to make a team do after spending the whole season proving who was the best).
Under no circumstances can anyone justify a bye for a team who didn’t win their own conference. Some suits in a boardroom saying you should get a bye because of your name is crazy to me. Either make it 16 or make it 8 to get rid of byes or continue to prioritize conference champs as is. But the idea that a third place conference team getting a bye is laughable to me.
The byes didn’t mean anything this year anyway. In fact, the first round was pretty unnecessary all around.
I never thought the playoffs should be expanded from 4. So, the idea that the first round was meaningless won’t get pushback from me. Go to 8 and get rid of the bye.
But, I would force ND into a full time member of a conference. But, $$$ rules.
But, I would force ND into a full time member of a conference. But, $$$ rules.
UGA paid 24 mil on their total staff this year and OSU 19. The SEC still has 8 of the 12 highest paid coaches. The BIG is not spending more for coaches
Edit: Bama staff made 19.5 million
Texas staff 19.5
Oregon 16.4 m
UK 16.7 m
ND doesn’t report what they pay, but Moore is the 25th highest paid coach at 6.7m, their entire staff pay is no more than UK is paying out.
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I saw a list recently of the top college football NIL spenders in 2024. I’m not sure how the numbers we determined but the top three were:
1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. OSU
