No way I'd take Montrezl in the draft
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Montreai is about the size of the Harrison's, certainly not what you look for in a four in the league. And he doesn't have the handle or range for a three or two. How far do you think he will get with his posing after every little thing with Cousins, James, etc.?
People here laugh at the ridiculous things UL fans say, yet we have some fans making threads like this.
i'm not a fan of a Trez as a prospect, but he's clearly a better prospect, even with some of his flaws.
Now, theres about 6 players on this team i'd draft over Trez, the Twins aren't one of them.
This post was edited on 1/23 1:19 PM by 5iveStarRecruit
i'm not a fan of a Trez as a prospect, but he's clearly a better prospect, even with some of his flaws.
Now, theres about 6 players on this team i'd draft over Trez, the Twins aren't one of them.
This post was edited on 1/23 1:19 PM by 5iveStarRecruit
5ive, I know I will take a lot of heat for this, but I really do not think any of three young men discussed in this thread will last more than three years in the NBA. I firmly believe Harrell will be drafted first round and that is the last you will ever hear from him. I believe Aaron Harrison will go in the second round and Andrew may go undrafted. All three players will be journeymen at best. I pray to be wrong regarding the Harrisons, but I just do not see a productive NBA career at this point.
Tell me oh basketball guru what does Montrezl do that either twin cannot do better except grunt, scream, or pose? I don't want to get into a pissing match but if you can explain it so I understand it then I WILL apologize to you.
I have many reasons from what I have seen so far to make the statement I made. Please assist in helping me learn. Thanks in advance.
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Just like the smart people around here said, Megatrez made a huge mistake coming back this season.
The Tard roster sort of sucks and his game is getting exposed against any team with a pulse.
The Tard roster sort of sucks and his game is getting exposed against any team with a pulse.
I will be surprised if Montrezl will be drafted at all. He has no outside shot at all and he is small for a center in the NBA plus he cannot handle the ball very well. Look for him to go overseas. Now Andrew and Aaron could go in 2nd round. jmo
Harrell will go in the first round. He's 6'8, so while still a bit undersized as a 4 in the NBA, he's got a huge wingspan (about 7'4). So he has incredible length to go with a very strong upper body, that makes up for a lot of height issues. He's explosive and has a high motor, elite rebounder.
I think his career will be more along the lines of Corliss Williamson. An individual who is one dimensional in college (hence, absolutely no mid-range game) that will absolutely get dominated by the likes of Cousins, Davis, Griffin, Howard, Vucevic, Gortat, Ibaka, Aldridge, Jordan, Gasol, Kanter, etc ... when he tries to dunk & flex.
He's an explosive athlete with a absurd 7' 3 wingspan. Only Towns is longer on this team. I get it, he's a 6"6 PF. Thats part of the reason I'm not too high on him, but he has some other great physical traits that will help him make up for it.
He'll have a role in the NBA once he steps on the floor. Play with a firing motor , rebound every ball thats near him and covert easy baskets ( dunks,layups). He's proven in college to do all these things. Playing with his motor is a skill.
Andrew is undraftable at this point. As an NBA prospect, he's pretty bad. He literally does nothing that you can point to and say " Oh, he's good at this. This will translate to the next level."
I believe Aaron is better than his numbers suggest, but right now he's not efficient. He's an average athlete. He's not a creator for himself or others. He projects to be a spot up shooter at the next level, yet he can't be depended to do that efficiently.
So you would rather have a 6'5 power forward than 6'5 point guard and a shooting guard.
Makes a lot of sense
So you're solely drafting on height? lol. NBA teams take a lo[/I]t more into account. Faried is 6"7 yet is making $60m.
The same people bashing a prospect for his height will be the same backing Tyler ulis when he decides to declare.
So you're solely drafting on height? lol. NBA teams take a lo[/I]t more into account. Faried is 6"7 yet is making $60m. While theres a bunch of guards that are 6'6 that bust or never make it.
The same people bashing a prospect for his height will be the same backing Tyler Ulis when he decides to declare.
read my post above.
NBA teams take a lot more into account than someones height.
Faried is 6"7 yet making $60m. Thats because he has a skill and other great traits.
Montrezl isn't a great option for an NBA team, but the twins aren't either. Granted, 6'6 guards are prototypes for the NBA, they aren't NBA athletic, have average wingspans, and aren't particularly great at anything. I wouldn't take montrezl over lyles, WCS, Towns, Dakari, Booker, or even Ulis in any upcoming draft
Read my post above.
NBA teams take a lot more into account. He has other great physical traits that give scouts hope he can overcome his height.
I mean, Faried is 6' 7 and making $60m.
That is my point. I know little about basketball. O see just from this thread that Montrezl' measurements are all over the board, geez the guy should be able to fly with that wingspan. The Twins can do a lot more on the court than Montrezl, period. I never made a comment as to the round, I just stated I'd take either before him.
That is my point. I know little about basketball. O see just from this thread that Montrezl' measurements are all over the board, geez the guy should be able to fly with that wingspan. The Twins can do a lot more on the court than Montrezl, period. I never made a comment as to the round, I just stated I'd take either before him.
That is my point. I know little about basketball. O see just from this thread that Montrezl' measurements are all over the board, geez the guy should be able to fly with that wingspan. The Twins can do a lot more on the court than Montrezl, period. I never made a comment as to the round, I just stated I'd take either before him.
The list of 6'6" PF's who are successful in the NBA is pretty short over the past 25 years. Harrell, who's real height is 6'5.75" without shoes, will have a tough time. As Pitino told him, he has to be a Faried type player. If he isn't, he will fail. Personally, I'd gamble on him in the second round but I wouldn't waste a 1st round pick. He can't shoot and he can't physically dominate anyone in the NBA. I really have a tough time convincing myself of his long term value.
I'll be consistent and say, if I had a draft pick, I wouldn't use it on any of them. I'm going to cheer on any player wearing blue. Not all are going to be All Americans, but be honest: if the twins went to Maryland, we'd be laughing at the thought of them being drafted. Sure Andrew has good height and Aaron is a good clutch shooter, but most of us have blue tinted glasses when it comes to our players (like UofL fans have red tinted ones on for Harrell). But if you're honest, and unbiased, if you had a draft pick and were a GM..:would you take one of the three? Probably no
I love how hard Harrell plays, but I do think he will struggle big-time in the NBA. He's yet to prove he can dominate against high-quality college bigs, so I just don't see what he can add to his game that will make him more than a guy that is a decent rebounder in the pros. His height is a major concern. The long arms help, but his skill set in college mainly revolves around being stronger/faster than the other teams' bigs. That won't happen in the NBA, where almost every four or five that's on the court with him is longer and either stronger or more athletic (many times both).
Yes, he should and will get drafted. No, I'm not sure I'd want to use a flyer on him in the first round. I look at him as a much less polished and smaller Thomas Robinson, who's averaging about 4 and 4 in his third season in the NBA.
Yes, he should and will get drafted. No, I'm not sure I'd want to use a flyer on him in the first round. I look at him as a much less polished and smaller Thomas Robinson, who's averaging about 4 and 4 in his third season in the NBA.
Yay, more people talking about what the Harrisons cant do. Just like Cal said, everything gets blamed on Andrew. People love to take shots at him. It there is a car wreck, its Andrews fault. Thats actually what Cal said. It never fails, anytime one of the twins is brought up people love to jump in and talk about what they cant do instead of what they have done and are currently doing, like saving our asses more than once this season. Oh, and leading us to the title game last year.
Lol. So you're just going to avoid my post above?
NBA teams take a lot of things into account, not solely height. Obviously its a concern but if they feel you have other physical traits than can help you translate, they'll take a chance.
Faried is a 6'7 PF, yet making $60m.
It doesn't matter if you're a 6'6 PG if you don't have the vision, skill level or athleticism.
I will be very curious to see how the roster shapes up if the Harrisons return next season. IF (big if) Calipari does not platoon, do they even start? I am not looking for a debate regarding their many accomplishments or flaws, but one could argue that Ulis is more effective at the PG slot and if Booker returns, he is a better option at the SG slot. Additionally, Briscoe and Matthews will both warrant playing time and Calipari is still chasing Newman and Brown. Calipari is certainly recruiting as if he is not expecting the young men (Harrisons) to return.
IF he were to land both Newman and Jaylen Brown while retaining Booker, then where does that leave the Harrisons? You arguably have six (6) players (Brown, Ulis, Newman, Matthews, Booker and Briscoe) seeking playing time at three positions (PG, SG and SF) that are all more talented than Aaron and Andrew. Once again, I use the word arguably because I know some posters take very dramatic stances on the Harrisons.
This post was edited on 1/23 3:27 PM by JonathanUSAF
IF he were to land both Newman and Jaylen Brown while retaining Booker, then where does that leave the Harrisons? You arguably have six (6) players (Brown, Ulis, Newman, Matthews, Booker and Briscoe) seeking playing time at three positions (PG, SG and SF) that are all more talented than Aaron and Andrew. Once again, I use the word arguably because I know some posters take very dramatic stances on the Harrisons.
This post was edited on 1/23 3:27 PM by JonathanUSAF
Montrez is not that good.. He looked good last year playing against lesser competion. Every time he faces a real d1 power forward he gets handled. What do you think would happen at the next level. The Harrisons have way more upside but still aren't ready. Guys like Meeks and Bogans are having long careers in the league. Both Harrisons are as far along as Meeks and Bogans mid way through they're soph year.
You think they are as far along as Meeks or Bogans at the same point? I agree that Aaron may be close although I do not personally see it, but feel Andrew's growth as a player is not progressing at this point. I wish the twins nothing but luck, success and well wishes, but as another poster stated, had they gone to Maryland and we were facing Maryland, Ulis and Booker would not only match up very well, but probably win the match up decisively.
My two cents is that those who follow national recruiting for a living over hyped them and set them up for failure. Had they not been twins (or brothers), I think they would have been labeled as nice four star players who could provide bench relief to your starters as they learned how to grow and prosper as players. I think they would have been rated somewhere around where Charles Matthews is currently ranked.
My two cents is that those who follow national recruiting for a living over hyped them and set them up for failure. Had they not been twins (or brothers), I think they would have been labeled as nice four star players who could provide bench relief to your starters as they learned how to grow and prosper as players. I think they would have been rated somewhere around where Charles Matthews is currently ranked.
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