Like 15,000 BC. I'm sure a hun chief got an arrow in thee back and everyone was like, good. Yeah, probably shouldn't, but I'm more annoyed at the judgemental tsk, tsking of some simple dark humor.
No one talking about the UHC CEO murder?
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Like 15,000 BC. I'm sure a hun chief got an arrow in thee back and everyone was like, good. Yeah, probably shouldn't, but I'm more annoyed at the judgemental tsk, tsking of some simple dark humor.
OK. So you are good with murder of someone you know absolutely nothing about because you have issues with your insurance? bold strategy Cotton. Lets see if if pays off. Aren't you well off financially? What happens when someone decides you didn't deserve what you got?
Also, why no hate for government for starting this then? Why is nobody pissed at the head of medicare or medecaid if they are the ones who came up with these limits?
First, equating killing some marauder vs some guy walking down the street is, at best, a stretch.
Second, should we applaud murdering a general who is responsible for ordering troops into battle who end up dying? In essence, Biden murdered those soldiers in Afghanistan. His decisions regarding the border led to people being killed by illegal immigrants. It'd been OK to murder him? WTF people?
Third, the death penalty for a criminal who has been tried and found guilty is not the equivalent of murdering this CEO. Not even in the same universe.
Fourth, individuals at Medicare make decisions every day to deny claims for prescriptions and treatments - should we start murdering them?
I like dark humor but celebrating a cold blooded murder is fundamentally wrong. No one knows that every single one of this guy's decisions were the reason for unnecessary deaths. Maybe some of his decisions helped thousands of people.
This is absurd. A corporate ceo is not equivalent to bin laden. There is no justification for cold blooded murder. None.
Leftist have left reality at this point. We don't even live in the same reality. Geezus.
You’re not wrong. But at the same time, the anger in this country is palpable and in some spots is boiling over, and it’s easy to understand why.
But the anger is with government and MSM too... Would you be OK with people in those rolls getting killed for a good reason?
Honest question because I have dozens of people I have problems with in government.
If it meant they second guessed greedy decisions that enriched themselves and their alike, absolutely.
The hand wringing in this thread interest me as well. Some here post in threads that talk about giving communists free helicopter rides. Do you think they are talking about giving them free sightseeing tours?
Anyone that couldn't see where things in this country were heading wasn't paying attention. You cannot abuse and steal from people and just expect them to lay down for it. This was inevitable and has unfortunately proven successful. Expect to see more of it.
Anyone that couldn't see where things in this country were heading wasn't paying attention. You cannot abuse and steal from people and just expect them to lay down for it. This was inevitable and has unfortunately proven successful. Expect to see more of it.
Healthcare has been abusing population for years
More recently it’s been shrinkflation in grocery stores. Items are getting smaller and smaller to increase profits
Real estate is truly eye opening. CBS did an expose a couple of years ago about a firm in Toronto that owns 75k starter homes in the US. It just isn’t tenable, but there’s so many that just say that people are lazy. GTFO
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Yeah, well you know it wouldn't stop there. I'll quote Inspector Callahan on this idiocy:
"Pretty soon, you'll start executing people for jaywalking, and executing people for traffic violations. Then you end up executing your neighbor 'cause his dog pisses on your lawn."
I don't see how this as a left or right issue.
There’s measures that can be done before we reach a police state or total anarchy.
Why would anyone be surprised at a murder? Just look at the rhetoric used constantly on this site (not so much on this thread, but go check out lots of others) and then stop and consider that this is just a general discussion board for UK fans. I hate to even think what some of the darker websites conversations look like. There are a lot of people in this country constantly outraged over one issue or the other, and plenty of social influencers who make it their job to keep them outraged, then add in 400,000.000 guns (I own 3 myself), and who can act surprised? As someone said above, it will happen again.
What I find interesting is anyone online celebrating or laughing about this, or thinking bloodshed is how things get done in this country would likely be losing their shit if they saw this happen in person. It's one thing to act edgy on social media but it's something else to see a murder take place in front of your eyes. Let's say you saw humor in what happened. Okay, put yourself there, feet away. You getting online afterward and justifying this or laughing about it or are you hugging your family instead, shaken up from seeing a stranger killed?
So gd tired of the billy badasses online. If I told anyone that on Monday I watched a cute dog video that made me laugh and on Tuesday I watched an assassination that got me to smile, that person would back away from me and consider me emotionally unstable. I don't know how many times I gotta say the phrase "just be normal" but I guess I'll just keep saying it and hope people begin acting normal again.
So gd tired of the billy badasses online. If I told anyone that on Monday I watched a cute dog video that made me laugh and on Tuesday I watched an assassination that got me to smile, that person would back away from me and consider me emotionally unstable. I don't know how many times I gotta say the phrase "just be normal" but I guess I'll just keep saying it and hope people begin acting normal again.
You seem very upset. Maybe you should log off for a while, get outside, spend some time with family?
Well, maybe he did, or maybe he didn't....or perhaps he was encapsulated within the industry cesspool and had no outs. For you to say that he made decision that killed people is rather obtuse.
I would assume because you don't understand the term "leftist". i'm not talking about democrats or even liberals. People don't want to admit there is a commie/socialist/anarchist sect in this country that want to burn down our country so they can rebuild their vision of a better world out of the ashes. violence has been their main tool for decades all over the world.
I agree with others... This won't be the last killing. I think there have been 3 trans mass shooters and it doesn't make the news because it's not violence going the "right" way. You can tell the politics of most murders by how the media covers it....
Yep. I haven't seen any quotes from the deceased to "prove" he "had it coming". People just think "insurance companies suck", "This guy ran an insurance company", "anything that happens to him is justified". Nobody wants to be held to those standards in their life but they are oh so willing to just rewrite "justice" for this case.
No, it’s not right.
Simultaneously, continually and intentionally screwing decent people is a poor strategy for staying safe. Sooner or later, right or wrong, people retaliate.
People pay for healthcare. This guy (and other CEO's) implements policies that try every way possible to deny claims/treatments. They do it to boost their bottom line, no matter the human cost.
Absolutely. I've got several right wing friends who had the same or even downright celebratory reaction that I did.
Yes, you're right. He was forced into being a obscenely highly compensated insurance CEO who made decisions to increase his company's profits at the cost of human lives and had no other choice. I feel so bad for him.
You honestly celebrated a man you don't know anything about being killed because of his job?
Weird flex. Government has more negative impact on all our lives.
How much would health providers charge for services if insurance companies did not negotiate prices?
We wouldn't even have health insurance as it exists if not for government interference in the free market. Rules on insurance now makes it unlikely most states have more than a few choices for insurance.
The same political posters in this thread clutching pearls are also the types that will tell you a civil war is coming, are building an armory and love to threaten violence in their little echo chambers.
There's plenty of bullshit on the fringes of any political spectrum. I'd be interested to see what the document the guy was carrying pertained to as it seems a little peculiar to me to murder an insurance CEO to make a political statement. Still seems like a cold denied claim or denial of treatment that led to a lost loved one rather than a strange attempt to make a political statement.
There's plenty of bullshit on the fringes of any political spectrum. I'd be interested to see what the document the guy was carrying pertained to as it seems a little peculiar to me to murder an insurance CEO to make a political statement. Still seems like a cold denied claim or denial of treatment that led to a lost loved one rather than a strange attempt to make a political statement.
Think about all the people who work in healthcare from doctors, nurses, janitors, pharma sales, drug companies all the way to insurance people. All that money comes from taxes, deficit spending, or insurance premiums.
To blame this guy for the situation we’re in is short sighted. This is 100% caused by Congress. And all this money that flows into this system that supports the people I mentioned above is backed with industry groups bribing members of Congress to make sure their people don’t get cut off.
To blame this guy for the situation we’re in is short sighted. This is 100% caused by Congress. And all this money that flows into this system that supports the people I mentioned above is backed with industry groups bribing members of Congress to make sure their people don’t get cut off.
I'm right wing.. and IDK.. hard for me to really feel bad when a CEO gets taken out by the common man. I'm not wishing for CEO's to get killed, I'm not celebrating it when it happens. But I'm also not going to treat this any differently than the 10 people that likely got killed in gang violence over the weekend.
I have a bit of a warped view when it comes to CEO types.. I've worked for some absolute monsters in my time, truly bad and predatory individuals, .. ones that, yes, I don't believe should be in charge of anything, have anything, etc. If some of my former CEOs got offed, I am convinced the world would be better off without them.
I have a bit of a warped view when it comes to CEO types.. I've worked for some absolute monsters in my time, truly bad and predatory individuals, .. ones that, yes, I don't believe should be in charge of anything, have anything, etc. If some of my former CEOs got offed, I am convinced the world would be better off without them.
You don't think UHC lobbies the shit out of congress to continue to put us through the grinder while they generate (checks notes) 371B in revenue in 2023?
Hell, I guarantee you can find a picture of this particular CEO with nearly every famous member of congress. When people talk about big brother, they're often talking about more than just the government, and this is an excellent example.
This is an oroboros situation at this point, no one is absolved from blame (before some political nutjob tries to misunderstand me, this particular CEO did not deserve to die, nor did any other healthcare CEO, but they definitely deserve to be forced to have their healthcare managed by their own insurance company as a common person would, and that might as well be a death sentence these days).
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No surprise. 26 year old Ivy league Liberal deadbeat that hates corporate America. Probably watched too much Liberal scum TV, thinks everyone's a "Nazi" and lost it.
There's a reason people have sympathy for the shooter. It's not because they are bad people. It's because just about every American has either personally seen insurance companies attempt to get out of payments or even make decisions leading to death.
It goes without saying that the man shouldn't have been killed, but even the most ardent corporatist has to admit that it has revealed how poorly insurance companies are viewed by Americans. It's interesting.
It goes without saying that the man shouldn't have been killed, but even the most ardent corporatist has to admit that it has revealed how poorly insurance companies are viewed by Americans. It's interesting.
Newly released cctv footage of the shooter fleeing the scene of the crime…
Newly released cctv footage of the shooter fleeing the scene of the crime…
Maybe this is societies way of sending a "shot across the bow" so to speak. Again, it's sad that it has to end in someone losing their life. But I've posted in a few various threads now talking about how the common man is literally on the brink. If you keep expanding the number of amount of families living paycheck to paycheck, while multi-millionaire/billionaires like this guy buy another yacht, then eventually someone is going to snap and take matters into their own hands.
I wouldn't be shocked if this happens again.
I wouldn't be shocked if this happens again.
I actually know the Mangione family...huge donors to the last university I worked (Loyola University Maryland). Guy worked out at the facility I ran. Pretty crazy.
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