ADVERTISEMENT

No clue if this is true

Andy staples(a football insider) broke down the cal situation perfectly. Kentucky doesn’t have to pay the 33 million right now. They have to pay it out over the course of his contract which ends in 2029/2030. That’s 6 million a year Kentucky can do that and should do that
But they also have to pay the salary of a new coach during that time. Which, they aren't getting a good one for less than around 8 million per year. So, that now means you're paying around 14 million at least in HC salaries annually. That's not counting assistant salaries, taxes and other incentives.

Now, what happens if you do all that and the next guy is no better or worse, then in 3 years you have to fire him as well, and you're again stuck with Cal's remaining buyout amount, the next coaches buyout and potentially paying a 3rd HC.

Some of you don't seem to have a concept of costs.
 
But they also have to pay the salary of a new coach during that time. Which, they aren't getting a good one for less than around 8 million per year. So, that now means you're paying around 14 million at least in HC salaries annually. That's not counting assistant salaries, taxes and other incentives.

Now, what happens if you do all that and the next guy is no better or worse, then in 3 years you have to fire him as well, and you're again stuck with Cal's remaining buyout amount, the next coaches buyout and potentially paying a 3rd HC.

Some of you don't seem to have a concept of costs.
We do have a concept of costs, and a new coach can’t be much worse than 2 postseason wins in 5 years between the SEC and ncaa tournaments. Yeah Kentucky can’t do better than though can they. Kentucky has money the does that they don’t is people trying to hold onto to cal
 
Cal's a good coach. He's just gotten on the BBN's bad side over the past few years and it shows. I agree.

The Ladies of BBN Twitter has been pretty in-the-know this past year. Interesting to see what happens.
CCC IS NOT a good coach
not in any way, shape or fashion can any one other than his family call him a good coach.
Huggy proved that his 1st year, BO did in 2015, Few has done it 2 years in a row & the Oakland coach again last night. The winning coach of the state tournament in Ky could probably out coach him
 
We do have a concept of costs, and a new coach can’t be much worse than 2 postseason wins in 5 years between the SEC and ncaa tournaments. Yeah Kentucky can’t do better than though can they. Kentucky has money the does that they don’t is people trying to hold onto to cal
Financially it can do much worse.

You're just focused on wins and losses as a fan. The school and atheltics department view it much differently.

It's always easy when it's someone else's money. But UK isn't going to waste it simply because of some unhappy fans that will be over it in a week or 2.

Fans are nothing more than dollar signs to institutions. Their dollar signs have still been increasing annually even in spite of the final results. So, to UK, financially there is no need for a change at this point.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FrankUnderwood2.0
An AD would really be sticking his neck out for that kind of money . 65 yr old on decline is just risky . What would UK football fans think If we hired Kirk Ferentz, or someone similar? More likely Nike brought up this possibility. It’s hard to imagine a scenario where someone pays big for Cal right now , in 2024. Not someplace like Michigan ….maybe West Virginia, but even doubt that
 
Financially it can do much worse.

You're just focused on wins and losses as a fan. The school and atheltics department view it much differently.

It's always easy when it's someone else's money. But UK isn't going to waste it simply because of some unhappy fans that will be over it in a week or 2.
The entire fanbase is mad, yes they have to listen, cal may have like 10 supporters left. Fans will not be over this in 2 weeks I can guarantee it
 
If we're going big P5 brand Nike Schools who need a big name and some relevance.

Michigan, UCLA, Texas, Florida.

Very interesting and does make some sense even if this exact tweet/rumor isn't true. Those programs need some pop right now.
Cal would be a major step down for Ucla, Texas and Florida. Michigan would make sense tho since they are desperate.
 
I think Cal could have a reinvention if he leaves. His time here is done, but somewhere else with lower expectations and not such a toxic relationship between him and the fanbase could be good for him. It wouldn't be nearly the same level of success, but it could be an Andy Reid to KC type of thing for him.
Only if he reprioritizes coaching basketball. Not sure he can do it at this point. He clearly lost his way and wandered down a side path. Maybe a change would let him be able to see it and reset, since he wouldn't be locked in a battle with everyone to prove he's right.
 
Financially it can do much worse.

You're just focused on wins and losses as a fan. The school and atheltics department view it much differently.

It's always easy when it's someone else's money. But UK isn't going to waste it simply because of some unhappy fans that will be over it in a week or 2.

Fans are nothing more than dollar signs to institutions. Their dollar signs have still been increasing annually even in spite of the final results. So, to UK, financially there is no need for a change at this point.
Surely this is a parody account. This is Kentucky basketball, not pee wee football. Kentucky basketball is THE FACE of the university.
 
Cal's a good coach. He's just gotten on the BBN's bad side over the past few years and it shows. I agree.

The Ladies of BBN Twitter has been pretty in-the-know this past year. Interesting to see what happens.
He is not a good coach. Watch that video of us playing man to man defense last night and u will see why people scored on us like they did. Frightening that these players weren’t taught better. Quit taking up for that big phony.
 
Please hope its true!! Just wonder how many players and recruits would follow wherever he goes?
 
434178726_10212036743350390_9084566188851469776_n.jpg
a great Barkleyism that speaks the truth
 
  • Like
Reactions: RunninRichie
I think Cal could have a reinvention if he leaves. His time here is done, but somewhere else with lower expectations and not such a toxic relationship between him and the fanbase could be good for him. It wouldn't be nearly the same level of success, but it could be an Andy Reid to KC type of thing for him.
Yeah! Just like when Tubby left and won all those games and championships at Minnesota, Texas Tech, and Memphis! Wait...
 
I think Cal could have a reinvention if he leaves. His time here is done, but somewhere else with lower expectations and not such a toxic relationship between him and the fanbase could be good for him. It wouldn't be nearly the same level of success, but it could be an Andy Reid to KC type of thing for him.
This has been my take for a couple years.

Him leaving would be good for both parties. He’ll take his #1 class and his new fanbase will be thrilled. They will likely have a lot of success for 3-7 years just running on media hype and being “cool” from a rebranding. He may even make a final 4.

You’ll have some media ppl and some uk fans say “see that should be us, we shouldn’t had ran him off”. But that same success won’t happen here if he stays. This relationship is toxic and he’s too stubborn to change here4 he doesn’t have a relationship w any of the big money UK boosters any longer and he doesn’t think the fans should have expectations….so he should go to a school without title expectations that are just happy to play in S16s and be ranked.
 
But they also have to pay the salary of a new coach during that time. Which, they aren't getting a good one for less than around 8 million per year. So, that now means you're paying around 14 million at least in HC salaries annually. That's not counting assistant salaries, taxes and other incentives.

Now, what happens if you do all that and the next guy is no better or worse, then in 3 years you have to fire him as well, and you're again stuck with Cal's remaining buyout amount, the next coaches buyout and potentially paying a 3rd HC.

Some of you don't seem to have a concept of costs.
You can get a mid major coach for a lot less than that. I believe the guy at FAU is only making like $1.25 million a year. Get a top mid major coach and throw him $3 million a year to start. That keeps us paying equal to what we pay Cal now. If he does well give him a raise. Cal likely would have gotten some more increases if he actually performed well.

So it pretty much balances out. Just no ridiculous contracts before the Cal buyout is done. Give an extension of a year for every year that goals are met but keep it at no more than 4 years total. The coach will always be able to say he will be there for the whole 4 years for his recruits. Unless he doesn't perform and gets fired. You'd then only have to deal with 4 years of pay at most.
 
Maybe Cal and Reed have a joint presser announcing one last ride…along with a couple surprise returnees , with cal retiring after 2025. That’s the ‘shock ‘ the account refers to….an ‘unfinished business ‘ tour
 
Cronin never left UCLA . Rumors are he wants out , but huge buyout . They’re cash strapped ..by their admission…till Big Ten money starts flowing in 2 yrs
Didn't say he did. Someone said that UCLA is an Under Armor School which is incorrect. They are a Nike Jordan Brand school.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jjohnb5393
But they also have to pay the salary of a new coach during that time. Which, they aren't getting a good one for less than around 8 million per year. So, that now means you're paying around 14 million at least in HC salaries annually. That's not counting assistant salaries, taxes and other incentives.

Now, what happens if you do all that and the next guy is no better or worse, then in 3 years you have to fire him as well, and you're again stuck with Cal's remaining buyout amount, the next coaches buyout and potentially paying a 3rd HC.

Some of you don't seem to have a concept of costs.
It’s the situation UT almost got theirselves into in football and then they landed their guy on the 3rd fire before they got too upside down
 
Would be a win-win if true. Don't think it is, but Cal leaves of his own accord before things get ugly. We get a new coach and owe Cal nada
 
If I were asked to read into this, I would say Cal may be hinting about calling it quits, retiring.

This would not at all surprise me. In fact, if it happens, I bet it happens this week.
I think Cal is too entitled and ego driven to walk away from the buy out but if he wants to be remembered well in Lexington, the “surprising and shocking” move would be to settle for 10m and give a heartfelt olive branch retirement speech about how special his time was here and he wishes he could have gotten at least 1 more title for the fanbase and university.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TheDude73
I disagree. Cal is not a good coach. Good coaches actually, you know coach. He’s stopped doing that or he actually just forgot how to coach. Either way the version we have of cal now and the version we have had for the past 5 years is not a good coach on any level. He was a marginal bench coach at best during his early tenure here, now even that version of cal is gone.
Good coaches don't run up and down the sidelines cursing at players and screaming at them with the players family in stands teaching needs to be done practice this clown needs to leave another year of this charade is another year not getting this fixed
 
Couple of quick points.

-Michigan has very high academic standards and doesn’t accept many transfer credits from other schools. So Cal would have serious issues getting some of the 5 star freshmen into Michigan and likely over half the transfer portal likely can’t transfer into Michigan.

-UCLA has negative money right now due to the pandemic AND the state is making them share the Big Ten money next year with Cal. Also Coach Cal loves attention and adulation more then just about any other coach and UCLA has no fanbase and there a zillion more important things in Los Angeles then UCLA basketball.

-I understand the fanbase fascination with Bruce Pearl. But with our history we aren’t hiring someone with known previous NCAA violations. The NCAA may not govern UK in another 5-8 years but for now we aren’t hiring anybody with any shady history.
 
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT