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NCAA makes NBA draft changes

They got it right. I like this a lot. This is good for the student-athletes who want to test their draft stock and receive feedback from NBA teams without killing their college eligibility.
 
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With how little the 2nd round matters these days I wish if you declare and don't go 1st round you could retain the option to return to college much like how European players have some control as to when they come to the NBA after being drafted and getting out of their European contracts.
 
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Not yet approved by the NCAA. The NCAA is holding a convention January 14-16 in San Antonio.

Possible changes are listed on the NCAA.org site article about Div 1:

"Proposals to be considered by the Division I Council could change the way conferences determine their football champions and alter the process for students declaring for the NBA draft."

"will make the process of declaring for the NBA draft more flexible for students competing in NCAA men’s basketball. The proposal moves back the date by which students must declare for the draft and allows them to declare more than once in a college career. The declaration date is now the day before the first day of the spring National Letter of Intent signing period; the new date would be 10 days after the NBA combine. The most recent NBA combine was held May 13-17, 2015. Additionally, if the proposal were adopted, students could try out with different NBA teams and still return to school."

"Discussion of those proposals and votes will be Friday, Jan. 15"

Edit: twitter posts from other suggest it might already been voted on . IDK
 
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This could shake up some late signings by schools. Recruits waiting to find out what spots are opening at a particular school would be in a tight spot.

It looks official and effective immediately.

Council changes date for students to remove names from NBA Draft

"Students competing in men’s basketball now have a better opportunity to assess their likelihood of success in the NBA without jeopardizing their college eligibility."

"The change is effective immediately, and students can take advantage of the new process for the 2016 NBA draft."

WOW. UK already signed their class and looking to add one more. Could this end up bad for some UK players this year?

Does this sound a little like Cal talking? From the article: "“(The rule allows) student-athletes to realize their dreams without punishing them for having such dreams. Almost every men’s basketball student-athlete has dreamnt of playing in the NBA. This proposal allows them to attempt to make those dreams a reality without taking away their ability to come back and play in amateur collegiate sport if they happen to be unsuccessful.”
 
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Damn NCAA a year late !!!!! Dakari is setting in a hotel somewhere saying damn...... I coulda been an all American on this squad

Jk
 
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This is definitely a positive thing. Especially with some guys, it might convince a couple to return.
 
W2R said:
Damn NCAA a year late !!!!! Dakari is setting in a hotel somewhere saying damn...... I coulda been an all American on this squad

Jk
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What's DJ doing these days? D-league? We really could have used the big guy this year.
 
Dakari would have been perfect for this UK team. Probably around 9 to 11 points/game, 7 to 8 rebounds/game.

Might of even made the first round, too with the lack of quality bigs in this year's draft.
 
When Coach K and Duke starts signing One-and-Done's, the NCAA suddenly makes it easier for kids to return to school.[eyeroll][eyeroll][eyeroll][eyeroll][eyeroll][eyeroll]
 
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Yeah I could see someone like Marcus Lee or Briscoe coming back.

That said if Briscoe's shooting continues to trend upwards then he'll likely solidify himself as a first round pick and in that instance I think he'd be smart to go ahead and jump.

Also this is a huge middle finger to a couple of ACC coaches that were instrumental in having the deadline pushed up to before workouts started a few years back.
 
Finally, a (NCAA) decision in the best interest of the student-athlete!

Too bad they didn't go all the way though. I see no reason why a student couldn't allow themselves to be drafted, not like where they got drafted, and decided to come back to school. The only risk to the schools/NCAA is they wouldn't know until July if a player was returning or not. The real risk would be on NBA teams, they had better be sure they can sign the player (like MLB teams drafting HS players). But the NCAA has no reason to limit the NBA's risks.
 
A excellent move in the right direction, but the NBA still requires guys to declare 60 days ahead of the draft. Still, this gives guys thinking of going additional time to make their decisions. As some of you said this might have changed some of our guys decisions.
 
JonathanW said:
Finally, a (NCAA) decision in the best interest of the student-athlete!

Too bad they didn't go all the way though. I see no reason why a student couldn't allow themselves to be drafted, not like where they got drafted, and decided to come back to school. The only risk to the schools/NCAA is they wouldn't know until July if a player was returning or not. The real risk would be on NBA teams, they had better be sure they can sign the player (like MLB teams drafting HS players). But the NCAA has no reason to limit the NBA's risks.
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You can only be drafted once and the team that drafts the player retains the players rights until a year after the players would be senior year, so the player can't change his draft team or draft position by being drafted and returning to school if that were allowed.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q51


"If the player goes on to play college ball after he was drafted, then the team retains the player's draft rights until one year following the draft the player would have entered had he not declared early. For example, if a team drafts a college sophomore in 2012 and he returns to college and plays intercollegiate basketball, then they retain his draft rights until the 2015 draft. Note that the NCAA rules state that players lose their NCAA eligibility if they are drafted, so the player currently cannot return or go on to play college ball. This rule exists in the CBA in the event the NCAA rules ever change."
 
Its going to be interesting. There are going to be transfers after this year. I could see Matthews and Humphries leaving. They are being recruited over already. Matthews lack of an offensive game holds him back as Cal has said and I'm not sure what Cal's concern is with Humphries.
Say Bolden wants to come. Cal is taking him. and don't forget Simmons out there. So here is what you look at:
Freshmen:
Bam
Fox
Monk
SKJ
Gabriel
*Bolden

Soph:
Briscoe
Skal
Matthews
Humphries
Wynard

Jr:
Ulis

Sr:
Willis
Hawkins
Mulder
Lee

That's 16 players. 17 with Simmons. So....
 
There are, at most, 2 scholarships available, if Skal, Poy, Lee, Briscoe, Ulis and Murray all leave. If any combo of those stay, we're maxed out, and that's without signing another player and Floreal coming off scholarship. It's tight next year...I think Cal expects massive turnover even if guys aren't necessarily ready.

At best, we can hope for maybe 1 guy to stay.
 
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Its going to be interesting. There are going to be transfers after this year. I could see Matthews and Humphries leaving. They are being recruited over already. Matthews lack of an offensive game holds him back as Cal has said and I'm not sure what Cal's concern is with Humphries.
Say Bolden wants to come. Cal is taking him. and don't forget Simmons out there. So here is what you look at:
Freshmen:
Bam
Fox
Monk
SKJ
Gabriel
*Bolden

Soph:
Briscoe
Skal
Matthews
Humphries
Wynard

Jr:
Ulis

Sr:
Willis
Hawkins
Mulder
Lee

That's 16 players. 17 with Simmons. So....
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You're seriously assuming that this change means that all of our players are coming back? If Ulis and Lee test the waters, they are most likely going to find out exactly what we already assume, that they are at worst, second round picks. And they will never be any higher than that. So they are probably going to go anyway. And if Briscoe works out for an NBA team that likes him somewhere in the first round and tells him so, he will probably leave as well.

And Simmons is not coming to Kentucky. Sooooo.......
 
Obviously Bolden doesn't come if Skal stays. Simmons isn't coming. Now you are down to 15. We do still need at least two to leave though. IMO, Briscoe will be one. Lee or Ulis being another. If Skal goes too, Bolden comes aboard, if he waits that long.
 
I think the students should be able to try out every year based on NBA invites after first tryout. Doesn't mean they can't come back just because they are working out and seeing where they are in their progression. No pay so no problem. Why only once if the NBA (new potential employer) wants to take another look?
 
Probably isn't a popular option, but you could always pull scholarships from the in-state guys who would be buried on the bench next season. It would be a last resort if things didn't pan out and several players came back, but that may be how it would have to work out.
 
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Probably isn't a popular option, but you could always pull scholarships from the in-state guys who would be buried on the bench next season. It would be a last resort if things didn't pan out and several players came back, but that may be how it would have to work out.
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The problem may not be the amount of scholarships but they don't want to play behind someone else. If Skal gets better that means he will get significant minutes next year. Others may not want to split time or go with a platoon system.
 
Since the NBA draft is in late June, how about having a late signing period open up in early July? Not great timing but could be very helpful for both coaches and players to organize rosters.
 
In theory, recruits can decide whenever they want. Look at Jamal Murray. He waited until late June to commit. A recruit doesn't have to even sign a LOI. Show up on campus and be enrolled in classes.
 
Untouchables22 said:
With how little the 2nd round matters these days I wish if you declare and don't go 1st round you could retain the option to return to college much like how European players have some control as to when they come to the NBA after being drafted and getting out of their European contracts.
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Personally, I'd be fine with this as a Kentucky fan. But what a mess this creates for the NBA 2nd round. What if you have two 2nd round picks and both opt to stay in college, maybe because they thought they would go in the 1st round, or maybe because they don't like the team that drafted them.

I know that Euro players can stay put, but there's only like 10 of them per draft. Adding the potential for another 20-25 players that can say "Nah, I think I'll stay in school" would create such a cluster-F.

At this point, as I agree the 2nd round is almost useless, they should just eliminate it all together and focus on making a better farm league/D-league.
 
If this had been in effect last year we may have seen at least Dakari come back.
 
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Personally, I'd be fine with this as a Kentucky fan. But what a mess this creates for the NBA 2nd round. What if you have two 2nd round picks and both opt to stay in college, maybe because they thought they would go in the 1st round, or maybe because they don't like the team that drafted them.

I know that Euro players can stay put, but there's only like 10 of them per draft. Adding the potential for another 20-25 players that can say "Nah, I think I'll stay in school" would create such a cluster-F.

At this point, as I agree the 2nd round is almost useless, they should just eliminate it all together and focus on making a better farm league/D-league.
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Opting to go back to college wouldn't change the team that drafted them or their draft position. It would actually be a good thing for the NBA for second rounders to go back to college and further develope without having to pay for that development, and see if they can make it. The player gains very little to nothing by being drafted and returning to school if the NCAA allowed it, under the current CBA.

"If the player goes on to play college ball after he was drafted, then the team retains the player's draft rights until one year following the draft the player would have entered had he not declared early. For example, if a team drafts a college sophomore in 2012 and he returns to college and plays intercollegiate basketball, then they retain his draft rights until the 2015 draft. Note that the NCAA rules state that players lose their NCAA eligibility if they are drafted, so the player currently cannot return or go on to play college ball. This rule exists in the CBA in the event the NCAA rules ever change."
 
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It would be difficult to allow drafted guys the opportunity to go back to college but if a guy goes undrafted then I'd like to see him with the ability to go back.
 
I can't imagine someone who has excelled to the stratosphere of his/her profession, and me, an absolute nobody in that field, telling them "No, we got this".
 
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