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I heard the guys on the Door Bumper Clear podcast say the last 3 titles, all of which have been won by Penske drivers, have been 3 of the 4 worst average finishes in NASCAR history. Logano's average finish this year was 17.4 which is worst of all time. According to Jeff Gluck's poll after the race only 16% of the fans like this playoff format and I would venture to guess that most of those votes were the France family. No fans I know like it.
 
I heard the guys on the Door Bumper Clear podcast say the last 3 titles, all of which have been won by Penske drivers, have been 3 of the 4 worst average finishes in NASCAR history. Logano's average finish this year was 17.4 which is worst of all time. According to Jeff Gluck's poll after the race only 16% of the fans like this playoff format and I would venture to guess that most of those votes were the France family. No fans I know like it.

But Logano raced the perfect season for the format.

The regular season in NASCAR, much like NCAA hoops, is largely meaningless. Penske has realized this and they run best when it matters. If the format changed, strategies would change.
 
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But Logano raced the perfect season for the format.

The regular season in NASCAR, much like NCAA hoops, is largely meaningless. Penske has realized this and they run best when it matters. If the format changed, strategies would change.
I agree with Hamlin and Latarte on Denny's podcast that it should be only winners make the chase and then let the first 7 races determine the final four who battle it out over the final 3 races. One race shouldn't determine a champion. I know they want to be like stick and ball sports but in racing when wrecks, mechanical failures and other factors that are out of your control can affect your finish, it shouldn't come down to 1 race.
 
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Playoffs remind of March Madness: Just be good enough to qualify & then turn on your best stuff at the end.
 
If you win a race, then you should conditionally be in the playoffs. HOWEVER, if you fall out of the top 16 in points by the time the playoffs come around, you should be out. Does it already work like that? McDowell (for example) winning Daytona and then being 25th in points by the time September rolls around should not put him in.
 
I agree with Hamlin and Latarte on Denny's podcast that it should be only winners make the chase and then let the first 7 races determine the final four who battle it out over the final 3 races. One race shouldn't determine a champion. I know they want to be like stick and ball sports but in racing when wrecks, mechanical failures and other factors that are out of your control can affect your finish, it should come down to 1 race.

I do like the idea of the champ 4 being a 3 race series. Pick a mile, a road, and a superspeedway.
 
I'm not shocked that 23XI Racing has the resources to expand to a 3rd team. The timing of it seems odd since they just announced their teams running open during the 2025 season. It appears they will be fielding 4 cars in the Daytona 500 since they are in the works to get Truex a ride for the 500.
 
I'm not shocked that 23XI Racing has the resources to expand to a 3rd team. The timing of it seems odd since they just announced their teams running open during the 2025 season. It appears they will be fielding 4 cars in the Daytona 500 since they are in the works to get Truex a ride for the 500.
That is the Jordan effect.
 
I'm not shocked that 23XI Racing has the resources to expand to a 3rd team. The timing of it seems odd since they just announced their teams running open during the 2025 season. It appears they will be fielding 4 cars in the Daytona 500 since they are in the works to get Truex a ride for the 500.
Truex says it won't be with 23XI but JGR is in the works to do it. I believe NASCAR allows teams to run a 5th car on a very limited basis for R&D purposes if I'm not mistaken. The way Chase Elliott drove the #25 in 2015 while Jeff Gordon was in his final year driving the #24 with Hendrick.

 
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