I have no insight about Herro's pro prospects or intent to go pro after this year BUT, he seems to be a better defender,rebounder,finisher than Booker was at the same time. I recognize he is not quite the shooter Booker was but he is a 90% free throw shooter. He also seems bigger and stronger than Booker but I may be sort changing booker's size. Net, I wouldn't be so sure he's coming back.
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Herro is the type of player that Cal has to have return. If Herro played at Wisconsin and had the same stats,45% from the field, 35% from 3, he would be considered a lock to come back. I hope he follows PJs path.
Why? All three would start next year with Maxey at the point, Herro at the 2, KW at the 3, and Brooks at the 4.
A sophomore Herro leads UK in scoring next year, even with Maxey playing the way we hope he will.
That's the beauty of the whole thing. Everyone aside from NR is a multi position player and can be sold on playing a different position. EJ can play the 5. Hurt the 4. McDaniels can play literally anywhere. And Brooks/Whitney can play 2-4 positions. No one should be put off by anyone.
I think they both return. If we sign Brooks, give me Todd as a reclassification and I'm good. If we could get McDaniels, great, but a Todd signing would make him a luxury, not a necessity.
I could see Nick trying to go overseas. EJ should be an absolute stud next year. If that kid puts 15-20 pounds on his frame, watch out.
I think both are back though. If we add Brooks and Todd or Hampton reclassify + Hurt or McDaniels we are 100% set.
That would be 6/7 in the class.
Expect for Baker, EJ and/or Nick, Quickley, to return for sure. Potentially Hagans and Herro.
I really think Herro has a lot to gain by coming back. Could be a First Team AA next year and sky rocket up draft boards to lottery...PJ doing something similar as we speak.
All of the above a bit ambitious and hypothetical...but just some thoughts.
Now back to this year.
Ambitious and hypothetical, but not unreasonable.
I have a good feeling about the type of team UK will have next season.
I'm starting to as well. I was worried when we started striking out on all the bigs but Brooks would be a solid get. Plus it's always nice to make Indiana fans cry even more than they are now.
I've been campaigning for a while to get more of the 15-30 guys and less of sure fire OAD. I think 2 sure fire OAD per year is good. We have that now...so to me if you bring a Herro back, Ej, etc, you are in good shape. Getting the 2nd year out of these guys is huge for the program- especially when they take off like PJ has.
By all means if you can get a Zion or Wiseman sure, but 5 of them has to take a toll on Cal and the program. Too many egos to manage unless it is the perfect scenario.
I agree with this approach, and to be fair I think Cal has tried to recruit that way a little more. I don't think he expected Shai or Herro to be first round or potential first round draft picks. Same for Booker.
Hmmmm, it's like Cal is a good coach or something and develops players. Who would have thunk it?
Right, it is a good approach now considering the way recruiting is going AND the likelihood of NBA doing away with OAD soon...
If you are a mid range burger boy or not even one, think about how good it looks for Cal in previous development of this talent! OAD can go anywhere and generally be fine in draft. Those who aren't need to be developed. If SGA went almost anywhere else last yr (maybe anywhere at all), he isn't in the league this year. Cal played him to his strengths and his development from day one to when he left was astronomical.
Thought of some off the hip and looked them up:
°37 Herro
°43 WCS
°15 PJ
°22 Quickley
°19 Ulis
°22 Booker
°31 SGA
°18 Nick Richards
The guards in particular in this range are crazy good. Get ready to add Allen and probably Brooks to this list too. I'm sure I am missing plenty but Cal has a long history of getting people better in college. I am not giving up on Richards, if he stays at UK he will make his mark eventually.
We have, realistically, 2 or 3 players, at the very most, that possibly could stick with a pro team. Most should come back.
What are your insiders that say McDaniel is lock to UK are saying about Brooks? I'm sure they may know.
I'm just ready for a commit and I'm good with Brooks. If we lose 4-5 guys this year we will need 5-6 guys. Why not use the schollys?
I couldn't begin to unravel what on god's green earth you are trying to say here. When I say insider I mean the same that all of us on HOB listen to . I am sure this was some shot at me but being that i have never even seen your user name I could care less. I mean what did this post add to the thread of value? Everyone knows that we lead in the Mcdaniels race with UW running 2nd . Not sure the point of your douche post really beyond , well just be douche like .
All I was saying is it will be nice when someone like csbusch or Travis , the like say Brooks is ours. that is all.
HUH? Herro is a shooting guard Brooks is a 4 maybe a 3 here and there. Brooks and Herro do not affect one another at all.
Oh, are you saying that you aren't as confident on Brooks as McDaniels? Not sure I understand your post.
He doesn’t know anymore than the rest of us! I’m on the HOB just like he is! No one has said McDaniels is a lock to UK just that he’s the most likely to UK of any of our other targets! The Brooks stuff came out of. No where !
On a side note lol. Who does brooks game resemble? Dont let this guy get big and buff. Just wow lol. Curious to see your take?
Feel good about all positions and depth except for the role that Travis is playing this year. We need that one super strong and tough around the rim type against a lot of teams. Any 5th year bigs that might be available?
Ignore him. He’s an idiot. He guarantees every friggin player will go to UK.
Really? I had no idea. He seems confident. I like confidence. Like selling vacuum cleaners door to door and knowing you'll get that one sale that makes it all worth it.
Do they want to play the 4 and 5 with no back ups. Nick and EJ are basically our only bigs for next season
If the FBI thing has legs they'll probably be all kinds of transfers on the market this summer. Coaches getting canned and kids jumping ship.
I agree with this..... if they hit Arizona, Kansas & UL there could be a lot of transfers. Just have to wait and see.
Herro May get some first rd projections but like pj last year he’s not getting a first round guarantee. He will stand to gain tremendously to play a sophomore season
His 247 report says he is a small forward who could play some 2 guard and slide down to play the 4. What are you arguing?
Posted over the Summer that Iowa staff felt Brooks was UK bound-and they hosted him on an official visit. That's last news I'd gotten on him and a lot of people were feeding off the Michigan State news since one of the assistants on his team is Jaren Jackson Sr, and 2 of his teammates are Michigan State assistant coach Doug Wojcik's kids, and Wojcik is their recruiting coordinator --just hired to that position this year I believe. Makes sense why there were a lot of rumors about Isaiah Stewart as well for a while with Spartans.
Believe Brooks is close with both Maxey and Whitney and while you can form a bond on campus, when you are replacing so many guys and relying on impact from newcomers, sure helps when they have a natural/prior relationship. Maxey is also very friendly with Matthew Hurt. This takes nothing away from Jaden McDaniels or others UK is recruiting, just pointing out an added positive if you bring in Keion Brooks.
Believe Brooks is close with both Maxey and Whitney and while you can form a bond on campus, when you are replacing so many guys and relying on impact from newcomers, sure helps when they have a natural/prior relationship. Maxey is also very friendly with Matthew Hurt. This takes nothing away from Jaden McDaniels or others UK is recruiting, just pointing out an added positive if you bring in Keion Brooks.
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I'm all for adding high level combo forwards. It's been a position that Cal has struggled with. Get Brooks to go with the recent signings of Whitney, Knox, and Vanderbilt and it looks like a nice trend going forward.
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