Notice the lack of long twos. Also, our shots in the paint weren’t bad. Refreshing.
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I agree, but a wide open 15-18 footer is still a good shot. A contested 15-18 footer is the worst shot in the game. I'm a Mavs fan, so I've been watching Klay Thompson this season (one of the top shooters ever). Several times already this season, I have seen Thompson pump fake and the defender flies by him at the three point line, and he will take one quick dribble if the guy doesn't go too far by him, and knock down a wide open 15-18 footer.
I used to get frustrated with Brandon Boston for not taking a wide open 15 footer. He would always try to finish at the rim, clearly Cal's instruction, and he could never finish.
I used to get frustrated with Brandon Boston for not taking a wide open 15 footer. He would always try to finish at the rim, clearly Cal's instruction, and he could never finish.
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In the NBA, the corner 3 is the closest 3-point shot, so they look for it. But I agree with you regarding the college line.
Another poster had mentioned a Pope interview where he said we haven't even incorporated the deep corner stuff yet.
Yet.
Holy cow.
I would like to see a breakdown of the average 3-point percentage by location. If the distance is the same, I believe the percentage will go up as you have more of the backboard to shoot into. Kevin Grevey was the greatest baseline jump shooter I remember. I used to go in my driveway as a child to shoot baseline jumpers to be like Grevey.
I’m liking the thought of more to come from this offense.
I can barely remember Grevey's teams. I can't remember any details. Would you (or anyone else) compare Grevey and Given's game?
Grevey had better handles, which is why he lasted so long in the NBA. Both played small forward at UK, and needed to transition to guard in the NBA. Goose was the greatest mid-range jump shooter in UK history. Both were left handed.
I went to Joe B. Hall Wildcat Basketball Camp the summer of 1978. Goose and James Lee came to Seaton Center and spoke to us one day. Goose was talking about shooting and doing kind of an "around the world" shooting thing from probably 15-18 feet, and he must have knocked down 20-25 straight while he was talking to us.
I went to Joe B. Hall Wildcat Basketball Camp the summer of 1978. Goose and James Lee came to Seaton Center and spoke to us one day. Goose was talking about shooting and doing kind of an "around the world" shooting thing from probably 15-18 feet, and he must have knocked down 20-25 straight while he was talking to us.
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Contested is hard to define sometimes. When you have a real pull up off the dribble game, which admittedly most don’t now, a hard few dribbles and quick pull up at 16ft when the defender is moving back may be technically contested, but it didn’t affect the shot (much) is a great shot imo. It’s closer and easier for most.
MJ is a bad example because he’s MJ, but on his pull ups off the dribble he was often contested. Just not really much. Chris Jackson another. A lot of old school guys could do it well.
Maybe it’s somewhat of a lost art and that makes you right. It’s a bad shot for many lacking in that skill.
Just glad I'm not watching a glorified aau team anymore
I said the same thing to a buddy of mine. These guys are not necessarily lottery pick level athletes, but they look like they have played the game at a higher level than AAU. Noah and Perry show the value of a good high school program too. They are much more fundamentally sound than some (not all) of the guys Cal brought in. Edwards for instance last year was just weak fundamentally. Maxey and Wallace both played at the highest level of high school basketball in Texas, and they were as fundamentally sound as any freshmen we've ever had. Not every player should go the AAU/ Insert Name Academy route.
Agree and it hurts to say as I am a Bryan Station Alum. Givens was better because he won a SHIP though.
Kevin Grevie was just a very solid ballplayer. Had a smooth game and was physical (good upper body strength).
I know we discussed our growing up days before but what year did you graduate? I moved out to a farm in the 6th grade.
No doubt, being on the football team as an 8th grader (practice squad) and playing 9th grade through I got to know a bunch of people from 80-83 classes. Got to play with Kermit Sikes, Juan Stout and those guys. Loved my time at BSHS.
And don't forget me on the Red Devils in the Mary Todd league. lol One of these days I'll find a team pic. I know I (or my little brother (84) still have it.
Loved playing on the red devils way back when. Mary Todd was my first football experience. Then moved up to playing at Castlewood park Trojans.
The Cats were playing this so called Modern Basketball years ago under Rick.
He used to lose his mind when a player took a long 2 point shoot.
He used to lose his mind when a player took a long 2 point shoot.
That is absolutely beautiful and the reason we will be super efficient. If we make from 3 at the rate we can we will be tough to beat.
I think that is why Cal’s defense struggled so bad the last couple years. We play a modern style and took maybe 3 corner 3’s a half at most. Cal’s entire fear was cutting that corner off and it would have been minimal for the entire game.
Guys with that kind of game are phone booth scorers. They only need 2 dribbles to score from anywhere. Carmelo was the last real great player to do that, maybe KD today. Everyone today needs space from everyone on the court and a pick and roll to score most of the time.
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