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Mitch vs Boosters

So a lot of talk/words to just say what many people here have from jump. BTW-nobody named Trilly mentioned this either. LOL

1. They will appease the Boosters by letting them try and fail to land the top tier that most wanted--Hurley, Wright, Oats, etc...

2. Then they'll go to the guy Mitch has wanted from jump

The good news which is what has to happen and was expected-with a unified fanbase and giving the new coach an opportunity to build relationships, the $ and support will be there for Drew (all likelihood) which wasn't for Calipari. That should help him attract a big time staff and work with players both from HS/Portal.
I saw something with Hurley where he wants to coach in the league and really wants the Knicks job, I saw that earlier today from a UConn guy. I could see that being a hold up for Mitch
 
If they really have a chance with Hurley but go with Drew because he is cozy with Mitch I just give up.
Depends on how this plays out, if he seriously does his due diligence there may be a chance with Hurley. If he choose Drew without doing it then I agree completely that he’s a joke. If he does the due diligence then u give him credit as it is exactly how he should precede. I just wish he would talk to a couple other guys even if Hurley said no.
 
Who gives a shit if it's only for 2 years? If he wins back to back titles here I couldn't give a rats ass if he left after that. We just hire someone else and we have 2 more titles lol
Any coach winning more than one is an automatic home run. Pitino should’ve won more than one but ran into Arizona. Caliapri should’ve but ran into an amazing Cinderella UConn in 2011, UConn/Wisconsin/his own incompetency in 2014/2015, and an incredible buzzer beater in 2017 after our own incredible shot

Winning two is the hump now. Get over it and you can bolt to the NBA immediately if you want
 
Win-Win for us. If we somehow get Hurley, well, we win. If we don't, we get a solid hire in Drew with booster support that wasn't there for the back half of Calipari's tenure.
Don't buy into the BS that is hanging everyone on the belief that Hurley is still secretly contemplating this.....it's over. He's not going to be the next HC at Kentucky. When you have personally sold a fanbase on a dream case scenario and sold it as "I've got the scoop that NOBODY else does".......you keep the dream alive.

Scott Drew is the guy that is in play and Mitch's guy all along. The optics look great to have "exhausted" every avenue, etc....so the fans/big $ guys will be satisifed and then you get to business.

Drew isn't the guy I preferred but if he wants the job and they invest in him, I'll be a huge supporter and hope he kills it in Lexington. First thing up--bring his recruiting class and some players with him, try to retain a player or 2 from roster and recruiting class and fill out rest with Portal which he's excelled in the past with.

Business is best when you dangle carrots. Nothing changes/alters as much as people want it to. You shape the story to feed the mindset of the reader. So many will read into things as they hope/want things to go. Reality is slapping everyone in the face but the dream scenario is more fun to imagine.
 
Look at how smug these pricks are
I know they are man, all of those people on the east coast, especially in wealthy areas are the worst. Only the wokeness of those cities and in the West can top it. I’m sure Connecticut is just one huge fart sniffing bubble, where everything is perfect and the people, places, and things are like a universe of their own.
 
Per Pilgrim

Do not believe this is over, despite the NJ.com report Scott Drew is Kentucky's main target and the two sides are in talks. Mitch Barnhart and Drew have had positive discussions, sure, but it's my understanding this has nothing to do with the school's interest and pursuit of Dan Hurley.

I've been told Drew is seriously interested and would very likely accept, but there is an obvious donor push with Hurley and they want due diligence done there, as well. With the $33M buyout no longer in the picture, there's an understanding you have to give it a shot with the financial flexibility. And I don't think the hire extends beyond those two, despite Billy Donovan's anticipated interest through timing hurdles.

Have heard UConn is sweating the Kentucky talk with Hurley a bit and the leak (and its origin) aligns with that buzz. They don't want a contract in his hands because they know the money and situation will be hard for him to pass up if it gets to that point, no matter how great he has it in Storrs. They are rooting for this to end quickly with Drew named head coach so they can offer their own lucrative (relatively speaking) extension and begin the push for a three-peat.

Another thing to keep in mind: the one downside of Hurley's passion and drive to own the sport is that it's not limited to just college basketball. He wants to eventually land in the NBA and there is a very real chance you hire him for some unbelievable highs for two or three years before he becomes the next head coach of the New York Knicks. Barnhart doesn't want another high-profile search and hire before he retires and it's entirely possible he'd have to do that with Hurley. Drew is someone you can bet on being here for the long haul with his own major highs.

In short, Barnhart wants Drew, boosters want Hurley, but would also be very comfortable investing in Drew. They believe in either to get the job done and support is unanimous internally. NIL dollars will reflect that.

This is a win-win for Kentucky. Two outstanding options with championship pedigree, both home runs.

My money is on Drew.
It’s done.
 
Simple solution. Retire when Hurley leaves.
Even more--quit now and let someone else make the hire. IF that was even plausible. Somehow Pilgrim has turned Dan Hurley into Rick Pitino and it's a f***ing odd comparison other than they are great coaches with a Northeast background.
 
Mitch’s biggest worry is Hurley leaving for the NBA and then having to make another hire. I have a great idea hire Hurley for 5 yrs I’m sure he can get something done, if he leaves then you can hire Drew.
 
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I know they are man, all of those people on the east coast, especially in wealthy areas are the worst. Only the wokeness of those cities and in the West can top it.
Half the people on the east coast are communists, lmao.
 
Some of you are way too into being entertained instead of substance. Calipari was entertaining, he sucked and has killed our prestige.

What does a Louisville coach have to do with anything we’re doing? Nobody cares about Louisville, you just want to be entertained. This post kind of solidifies is. Well guess what? Louisville would have died long ago if not for Pitino. They aren’t relevant nationally and they don’t have the money for both sports. They’re also on the outside looking in with conference shifts. So if you’re worried about having some big names to go along with them it’s not going to happen. That’s why they’ve hired Payne and Kelsey. They don’t have the resources, Pitino is gone, and no major coach cares about Louisville.

Drew might not be your favorite arrogant actor, but his record at a doormat speaks for itself. And he’s been better than our actor, John Calipari, for a while now.

Drew would be a damn good coach and I think it’s totally unacceptable for him to not be shown a lot more respect if he accepts. He could just stay there and send us to Shaka Smart or Miller.

He would win here, and winning is the point.
Part of being a fan is entertainment lmao. You don’t have to get all holy than thou on me. Winning is still above all else.

UofL vs Uk with Rick and Cal are some of my favourite games to rewatch (Especially 2012 final 4). They absolutely despised each other.

I will support whoever is the coach here. But the in state rivalry is different with those 2 as coaches
 
If you guys want a fun listen there is a Twitter space by a guy called Nate and they are again convincing themselves Hurley is coming here. They are tracking a private jet from Connecticut to Lexington and thinking it’s Hurley
 
I just don't find anything impressive about Drew.Actually I see a lot of Cal in his results.
We're going to likely find out so hope for the best and see what he can do with resources a place like Kentucky can provide when unified behind the program/HC.

Not liking someone (again he wasn't on my top tier either) isn't the same as preparing for reality of him being the selection. Second that Drew entertained but declined Louisville......this just had a feeling that he was sitting on a job and with the info we'd been told about Barnhart, let's just celebrate he didn't include Tony Bennett and Chris Holtmann above Drew. I can at least watch a Scott Drew team play on the court, Bennett needs to be banished from the sport and Holtmann is now he's working at DePaul.
 
Some of you are way too into being entertained instead of substance. Calipari was entertaining, he sucked and has killed our prestige.

What does a Louisville coach have to do with anything we’re doing? Nobody cares about Louisville, you just want to be entertained. This post kind of solidifies it. Well guess what? Louisville would have died long ago if not for Pitino. They aren’t relevant nationally and they don’t have the money for both sports. They’re also on the outside looking in with conference shifts. So if you’re worried about having some big names to go along with them it’s not going to happen. That’s why they’ve hired Payne and Kelsey. They don’t have the resources, Pitino is gone, and no major coach cares about Louisville.

Drew might not be your favorite arrogant actor, but his record at a doormat speaks for itself. And he’s been better than our actor, John Calipari, for a while now.

Drew would be a damn good coach and I think it’s totally unacceptable for him to not be shown a lot more respect if he accepts. He could just stay there and send us to Shaka Smart or Miller.

He would win here, and winning is the point.
Interesting thing about Louisville and Kentucky right now….

Their dream hire, their grand slam, their splash hire was Drew. Meanwhile we are about to revolt if we hire Drew.
 
Per Pilgrim

Do not believe this is over, despite the NJ.com report Scott Drew is Kentucky's main target and the two sides are in talks. Mitch Barnhart and Drew have had positive discussions, sure, but it's my understanding this has nothing to do with the school's interest and pursuit of Dan Hurley.

I've been told Drew is seriously interested and would very likely accept, but there is an obvious donor push with Hurley and they want due diligence done there, as well. With the $33M buyout no longer in the picture, there's an understanding you have to give it a shot with the financial flexibility. And I don't think the hire extends beyond those two, despite Billy Donovan's anticipated interest through timing hurdles.

Have heard UConn is sweating the Kentucky talk with Hurley a bit and the leak (and its origin) aligns with that buzz. They don't want a contract in his hands because they know the money and situation will be hard for him to pass up if it gets to that point, no matter how great he has it in Storrs. They are rooting for this to end quickly with Drew named head coach so they can offer their own lucrative (relatively speaking) extension and begin the push for a three-peat.

Another thing to keep in mind: the one downside of Hurley's passion and drive to own the sport is that it's not limited to just college basketball. He wants to eventually land in the NBA and there is a very real chance you hire him for some unbelievable highs for two or three years before he becomes the next head coach of the New York Knicks. Barnhart doesn't want another high-profile search and hire before he retires and it's entirely possible he'd have to do that with Hurley. Drew is someone you can bet on being here for the long haul with his own major highs.

In short, Barnhart wants Drew, boosters want Hurley, but would also be very comfortable investing in Drew. They believe in either to get the job done and support is unanimous internally. NIL dollars will reflect that.

This is a win-win for Kentucky. Two outstanding options with championship pedigree, both home runs.

My money is on Drew.
The best choice is Donovan. He won’t leap to the NBA like Hurley will and he won’t be overwhelmed by the UK BBN culture (which is 5x the pressure of Baylor) like Drew will.
 
Mitch’s biggest worry is Hurley leaving for the NBA and then having to make another hire. I have a great idea hire Hurley for 5 yrs I’m sure he can get something done, if he leaves then you can hire Drew.

That’s a bs excuse on Mitch’s part.

Bring in Drew that half the fan base and boosters are already meh on is unfair to Drew. A decent friend wouldn’t do that to another honestly. The expectations he’d have to meet to unify everyone is too much to ask of the guy. Mitch is dangerously close to creating another sh1tshow by being so stubborn and going rogue again
 
I saw something with Hurley where he wants to coach in the league and really wants the Knicks job, I saw that earlier today from a UConn guy. I could see that being a hold up for Mitch
Hurley can do what he likes-but the Knicks job would make a lot more sense for a Northeast guy whose wife loves the Northeast and wants to stay in the Northeast. Kentucky isn't that for them. Doesn't mean they think Kentucky is awful. But there are people who live in KY who would definitely prefer to stay in state and work anywhere but a metropolitan Northeastern city and I understand that too. No matter how much $ offered.

My Dad worked for a big Pharmaceutical company growing up--was offered a big job and $ increase to leave Twin Cities region to work in Philly and he turned it down because he just hated the city/different aspect of the job. Was comfortable where he was and happy. Family was happy and that was precedent over more money, power within the company. Some people are like that.
 
If you guys want a fun listen there is a Twitter space by a guy called Nate and they are again convincing themselves Hurley is coming here. They are tracking a private jet from Connecticut to Lexington and thinking it’s Hurley
Better yet I'll just not look at my phone for the next couple of days.
 
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Interesting thing about Louisville and Kentucky right now….

Their dream hire, their grand slam, their splash hire was Drew. Meanwhile we are about to revolt if we hire Drew.

Excellent point and that’s exactly what I’m talking about. Louisville is done. The guys they’re hiring literally prove it lol. They would have died a long time ago but Pitino’s presence kept it up, but also, took his down. His image was never the same going there. No great coach wants to be in a state without fans and a city where they don’t even have majority. It was never going to sustain itself. Now that they don’t have enough money to pump both sports and they’re having to go all in on football to try and survive, we now have the University of Pat Kelsey.

Pretty easy to see.
 
We're going to likely find out so hope for the best and see what he can do with resources a place like Kentucky can provide when unified behind the program/HC.

Not liking someone (again he wasn't on my top tier either) isn't the same as preparing for reality of him being the selection. Second that Drew entertained but declined Louisville......this just had a feeling that he was sitting on a job and with the info we'd been told about Barnhart, let's just celebrate he didn't include Tony Bennett and Chris Holtmann above Drew. I can at least watch a Scott Drew team play on the court, Bennett needs to be banished from the sport and Holtmann is now he's working at DePaul.
What is your take on Drew as an Xs and Os coach and handling in-game adjustments?
 
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Regarding Pilgrim : Same guy that wrote this weird Brad Calipari slurpfest seemingly out of nowhere a few weeks ago Brad Calipari is back right where he belongs in Kentucky blue

I assume he received some sort of info for putting that out, but just look at his twitter avatar and banner. Hard for me to take a fan journalist completely seriously and think they have a good grip on the situation when they're so openly thirsty for anybody involved with Kentucky. Seems like a nice guy and I'm sure he busts his hump, but he has the general demeanor of a 10 year old waiting in line for an autograph.

Easy to imagine that guys like these get played by sources
 
Shocking the title of this thread is completely misleading
I really feel sorry for all of the negative comments on this site day in and day out. The ruthless comments on this site about everything and everything one is u rea. Do you kick your as well.
 
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Sounds crazy considering Hurley won back to back titles, but there’s something that makes me feel uneasy about him at KY. Maybe it’s his volatile and sometimes petulant behavior, maybe it’s my doubts about him truly investing in and enjoying Ky, but just something that makes me skeptical he would duplicate his success here. He feels like a guy who is a UCONN guy or NBA guy.
 
They really don’t have money. It was difficult for them to give Hurley 5 million. It had to be approved by state government. There’s no way they’d easily top 11 million.
All they'd have to do is come close to what UK offers and extend the years which he'll never reach. They have the hammer. Make sure Hurley and his wife are comfortable in knowing they'll exhaust every aspect of not just retaining him but rewarding him for his success. Why leave? What other than $ is the reason to leave UConn program he's added to their legacy/created his own? We tend to look at the reasoning from our hopeful perspective and not the actual perspective which in these situations comes down to the "WHY" would I do this? What is benefit other than $?

UK has "here's a ton of $--come save us because we've got tradition that we need to restore and we've got a ton of $".
 
Not really an encouraging situation. I just don’t think Drew is right for it. Seems it’s heading in that direction. Our boosters seemed to have lost their edge too. They need another Mike Pratt to drive the strategy.
 
Don't buy into the BS that is hanging everyone on the belief that Hurley is still secretly contemplating this.....it's over. He's not going to be the next HC at Kentucky. When you have personally sold a fanbase on a dream case scenario and sold it as "I've got the scoop that NOBODY else does".......you keep the dream alive.

Scott Drew is the guy that is in play and Mitch's guy all along. The optics look great to have "exhausted" every avenue, etc....so the fans/big $ guys will be satisifed and then you get to business.

Drew isn't the guy I preferred but if he wants the job and they invest in him, I'll be a huge supporter and hope he kills it in Lexington. First thing up--bring his recruiting class and some players with him, try to retain a player or 2 from roster and recruiting class and fill out rest with Portal which he's excelled in the past with.

Business is best when you dangle carrots. Nothing changes/alters as much as people want it to. You shape the story to feed the mindset of the reader. So many will read into things as they hope/want things to go. Reality is slapping everyone in the face but the dream scenario is more fun to imagine.
Who would you have preferred?
 
All they'd have to do is come close to what UK offers and extend the years which he'll never reach. They have the hammer. Make sure Hurley and his wife are comfortable in knowing they'll exhaust every aspect of not just retaining him but rewarding him for his success. Why leave? What other than $ is the reason to leave UConn program he's added to their legacy/created his own? We tend to look at the reasoning from our hopeful perspective and not the actual perspective which in these situations comes down to the "WHY" would I do this? What is benefit other than $?

UK has "here's a ton of $--come save us because we've got tradition that we need to restore and we've got a ton of $".
I agree with this point, but the spotlight / stage UK offers isn't nothing. UConn is the repeat champion and the #1 story is Cal leaving UK/who will UK hire. Doubt it's enough to sway Hurley in addition to the money, but feels worth mentioning
 
I've heard some interesting comments from people in the business to not count Billy the kid out yet!
Jmo, nothing more. I think Donavon would’ve been considered if he had indicated he was interested but he didn’t. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
 
If all that is true and Barnhart has a “choice” since donors are seemingly on board for both, he is 100% choosing his own guy, Drew.

Edited to add: I’m still not entirely sure why Donovan couldn’t just accept a college job and walk away from the NBA anytime? I understand if there’s some contractual situation, but I feel like the NBA rolls with interims all the time and it kinda seems like Chicago would be fine with him excusing himself anyway.
When has a playoff team in the NBA "rolled with an interim"?
 
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