I doubt your superior alien DNA would mix with our neolithic genomes. Which is why you probably have not tried to procreate. That or, you don't know where to stick it.
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Men who chose to not have children, how did it go?
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My wife would kill to be a stay at home mom, that would be her dream. Would be great for our kids and I could probably name the benefits to our family for 15 mins. Unfortunately with today’s society it’s almost impossible to live on just a single income.
If you're making it a financial analysis, it will never justify kids but thats also missing the point. Nothing is ever more rewarding even if biologically they arent yours. Doesn't mean they aren't expensive, time consuming, or challenging; but that isnt the point.
Have 4 kids! Best thing I have ever done. Wish I could have more but wife says no. Tried to talk her into adoption. No go. Wish I could freeze time. They grow up so fast. Got a pretty late start. 50yo with 17, 15, 10& 5yo. 1 girl. 3 boys. Love every second. Used to b very independent. Now. Not sure I ever want to be alone. I love them being around all the time.
There is more truth here than most are willing to admit. These women are called Alpha Widows. I'm not going into that subject any deeper because it sure to start a thread slide that will end in an avalanche. It is real and it is crippling relationships among young people.
It is also important to realize that society has had a massive shift in the last eighty years or so from agrarian, to production, and now this crap show service economy.
My dad had nine brothers and sisters. Was it because my grandma loved being perpetually pregnant? No, it was because they needed kids to work the farm and they had to build in redundancy. That's right, if a couple died you had extra. None of his brothers of sisters had more than four kids. Of those kids, I can't think of many that had more than two. Many have none.
The need for a large family isn't there anymore. In fact, it is punitive in many ways.
I’m 59, with two sons, 24 and 21. Got married at 28; wife and I struggled with fertility issues and were considering adoption when we got pregnant with our first. Our second was also a wonderful surprise. Four kids would have been awesome but with my wife’s problems with pregnancy (both were premature) I knew we were done after the second.
Children are a blessing but if you know it’s not for you then don’t have them. I have a cousin a few years younger than me who’s been married nearly as long as I have but he and his wife never had children. As far as I can tell they seem happy. Another cousin didn’t get married until he was 52; his wife had two kids from a previous marriage. He’s 65 now and enjoying the retired life as a step grandparent.
There’s really no wrong way to go about it as long as you’re content and satisfied with your life choices.
Children are a blessing but if you know it’s not for you then don’t have them. I have a cousin a few years younger than me who’s been married nearly as long as I have but he and his wife never had children. As far as I can tell they seem happy. Another cousin didn’t get married until he was 52; his wife had two kids from a previous marriage. He’s 65 now and enjoying the retired life as a step grandparent.
There’s really no wrong way to go about it as long as you’re content and satisfied with your life choices.
It's Christmas so I'm going to be as kind as I can be here - the above sounds like something an incel would say. Incels are usually younger guys who think they know the world, or what the "modern man" needs, and they usually have an odd dislike of women their own age. Incels see most women as "bitches" and/or "sluts." I don't think believing modern women are tatted up lib bitch whores is a healthy way to go through life but that's just me.
I know on a male dominated, nearly extinct site like this we like doing the whole, "ah hens, they drive us crazy, right?" thing but you're 34, slow down on thinking you know what modern men want and who modern women are.
I’m 120 and been married twice, one daughter with my 2nd wife. Have 12 kids with other women while I was single. 4 sets of twins and 4 single, spent a lot of time watching games and activities in the upper areas of events, so I didn’t upset their mom’s. Expensive, would be an understatement, but worth every minute. Even if I never got to see them on holidays, birthdays or as much as I wanted.
Have all of them and my grandkids together for the first time tomorrow. I just hope I can remember most of their names. It’s not easy when there’s 40 or so total.
Hopefully, I can’t have anymore or find out I have any I wasn’t aware of. I already have grandkids older than my youngest daughter, she’s 8.
Have all of them and my grandkids together for the first time tomorrow. I just hope I can remember most of their names. It’s not easy when there’s 40 or so total.
Hopefully, I can’t have anymore or find out I have any I wasn’t aware of. I already have grandkids older than my youngest daughter, she’s 8.
“One of the nice things God does, is that he doesn't let people who don't have kids know what they're missing."
I have a son and a daughter who have both talked about not knowing if they want to be parents or not so I’ve put quite a lot of thought into the issue. My daughter would likely be an incels nightmare because I’ve made sure she’s prepared for whatever life she decides she wants. I’ve put a big focus on personal finance, auto and home ownership, etc so she won’t ever feel she has to rely on someone else. It’s expected that I teach my son these things but not when it comes to daughters. That seems odd to me.
BTW, all my kids know that the most important thing to me is that they have fulfilling and happy lives, nothing more, nothing less.
I've got one 6 year old and sometimes that's one too many. Currently refusing to go to sleep. Merry Xmas indeed.
I can guarantee you Drew is the furthest thing from an incel.
Have 3 kids and this is our first year post-Santa reveal, and it’s a punch in the gut.
Incredibly exciting to see how they’re growing up, but part of me wishes I could stop or slow time….and that’s not possible unfortunately.
Personally embrace the simple living lifestyle. Love to travel and have the freedom to do whatever the F I want when I want which includes not raising kids in this shitty, chaotic, and often unpredictable world. Don’t like myself that much where I want to replicate myself. Never once regretted it. In fact, the older I get the more we realize it’s the right choice. Too expensive to raise kids these days. Could care less about an insignificant “legacy.”
Dogs >>>>>>kids. TS
Dogs >>>>>>kids. TS
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lol yeah, first time I’ve been called that
I have no issue getting women, never have. I find most women are great. I just know of a lot of men that complain about the type I mentioned. Looking for a traditional woman these days is gonna be hard
..but you never know when you meet your Pam Beesley and settle down
I’m on dating apps and I get “I wanna be your Pam” all the time lol...but you never know when you meet your Pam Beesley and settle down
I also have a pic of me flexing in a tank top (I know, I’m that guy) and I get Logan/Wolverine a ton lol
I wish I could relate, but I'm a balding middle-Ager with a terminal case of marriage
I have one child and I wouldn't go back and change history. I'm not judging anybody who has no children or a dozen. I will say this, if money is any type of deciding factor, don't have kids. For me, raising my daughter was a tremendous joy in my life. Money isn't everything.
Having kids is the ONLY reason I was able to obtain what I did in the business world. So they are more than just a “libality on your freedom/fun”.
You do you man. I think your decision is correct. You don’t sound like you wouldn’t be a very good father. That’s not being disrespectful at all. It isn’t for everybody.
It takes a real one to get in the trenches and raise kids.
I'm just going by his own words. He might be the best guy in the world but when you're online on Christmas Eve complaining that women are tatted up/boss bitch types who are very promiscuous and usually liberal, that's a red flag. Sorry, but it is. It's a weird view on an entire generation of women and most women seeing that as a view taken by a man wouldn't suddenly flock to him. Women usually don't like to be called promiscuous boss bitches, right?
He also "loved" a post earlier of someone saying their grandmother had several children because it needed to be that way. So you've got a 34 year old saying women are boss bitch whores with tats and he seems to agree that women need to have several children. Do women usually enjoy a man seeing them as breeders because that's how things might've been in the 1940s?
Outdated and/or bitter views towards women. That's what I saw so I pointed it out. Nothing more. If you're online, on Christmas Eve no less, calling a generation of the opposite sex insults, that's just an odd, red flag to me. Carry on.
If I saw women as only breeders, then why wouldn’t I want kids? That makes no sense. I clearly said young men I know and women under 40 have a very disconnected political and world view. And that’s one huge reason why the birth rate is going down as we were talking about. Stop taking what I said out of context.
Like me loving a post talking about back in the day, you had many children to work the farm. It was a post about how times have changed and it’s now unaffordable to have that many kids. Not a post about how women should be bred and stay in the kitchen. Your brain is elementary if that’s what you got out of that post
You’re also online on Christmas Eve and day arguing. Sounds like a red flag
No disrespect taken. I think being a father is much like lifting weights. If you’re not willing to go to war and get in the trenches to do those things, don’t do them cause the results won’t be of high quality
(Double bicep flex)
My wife and I stopped at one kid (son). He's bright, focused , talented with music and a true gentleman...
I need a DNA test
I need a DNA test
He inserts himself into every single thread and makes sure everyone knows how smart and morally superior he thinks he is. (Laughable)
Well, not the political thread. He talked a big game and then turned tail and ran never to be seen a again when the election went the wrong way for him. Total keyboard cowboy.
When people like you are so nasty about it being done your way or that you're a "real man", it only validates their reason to avoid your situation. NOBODY would be so nasty if they were really happy. Sux for you.
In what I quoted, you said the problem with modern women is, not that young men you know feel this way. You feel this way. I'm saying claiming women, in general, are bossy bitch, tatted up sluts appears to be an odd way of thinking about the opposite sex. Bragging about yourself and claiming people think you look like Wolverine is odd too. You don't need to prove anything here. I'm not claiming, on the internet no less, that people think I look like Christian Bale from Batman Begins. C'mon now. So you're Wolverine-lite with no problem getting women but you also think modern women are incredibly flawed, promiscuous bitches. I mean, what?
I hope you have a Merry Christmas. I just took issue with one thing you said, which is how you view a generation of people. It's an old world, out of date view imo. You're 34 but in that little snippet of your post, you sounded more like 74, verbally crapping on young women and how whatever you don't like right now, it's gotta be their fault, as if they should be more traditional.
Thats all that matters to women now. It's a fake life they wanna live through social media and when a guy sees through it they block them out of thier life. I spent last 3 years chasing a pretty little single mom with 2 kids. Trip to Disney roof top dinners but when I try take her arm it's empty with no emotion or such. Considering she's a stable as a 3 legged chair I was doing everything til there was nothing left. So now she don't talk to me anymore because I seen who she is and just wants to live through her online likes. I've been a single dad since my daughter was 5 and raised her to be a great kid. She turns 20 in a few weeks and is a sophomore in college which tells me I must be a decent guy because she still comes home to dad's house. I'm 42 now and looks like I'll be single forever now and really don't even bother me much anymore.
Is this your first time meeting nightwish? If so then welcome to the party pal.
lol I think it is, I haven’t spent tons of time over on this board in a long while. How could I have guessed which way he voted lol
Easy decision to ignore
Yeah, I truly didn’t mean the way that other guy took it. I was saying it seems like you have it figured out. What is best for YOU. Good luck either way man.
You need mental help. Seriously, check with a professional if that’s what you took away from what I said to him.
Sounds like a great gal. I’d worry too much about the long term health effects of ink though. Believe most are found to be carcinogenic
Pretty sure I know why you two aren't having any kids. Get a hotel room and have it out already 😂
Kids are tough, probably the hardest thing I've done. The rewards far outweigh the difficulties though.
