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Matt Jones said Lee, Hawkins and someone else could graduate this year

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And do the graduate transfer without sitting out (unless that rule changes).

I don't remember who the third one he mentioned is. He also said he thought we would add either Bolden or Allen.
 
Not necessarily. He could apply for a medical redshirt. I don't think he will, but thats an option.

this. Regardless, there's like a 99.999% chance he's gone. Staying would do nothing for him, except to catch a lot of grief.

While I'd hate to see Lee or Hawkins (and the someone else might be Willis) go, I full understand if they want a bigger role on a smaller stage. UK isn't for everybody.
 
this. Regardless, there's like a 99.999% chance he's gone. Staying would do nothing for him, except to catch a lot of grief.

While I'd hate to see Lee or Hawkins (and the someone else might be Willis) go, I full understand if they want a bigger role on a smaller stage. UK isn't for everybody.
Willis would be the only one I would want to keep...he would give some quality depth coming off the bench and i still think he has a shot at some pro ball....maybe Europe for sure
 
Willis was the third he mentioned , he should transfer to play his last year because he will not play much unless he develops into a much better player .
 
The likelihood of a medical redshirt is basically 0. You have to play in less than 30% of your teams games. I don't know if that includes post-season or just regular season. But if it only includes regular season, he played in 29% of our games last year, which is under 30% but is very close. So I don't think the NCAA would grant his medical redshirt. A medical redshirt is far from a sure thing and the NCAA seems to deny more than they grant (including all athletes that apply, a good portion of which don't exactly meet the criteria). And with the players we have coming in and the need for open scholarships, UK will not allow the medical redshirt. So while it is a possibility, it is almost a certain not to happen.
 
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Would love to have Lee and/or Poythress back.

Not sure either would be willing to take on a reserve role though, and that is likely what they would be looking at.
 
I would take all of them. As for the incoming class, I am learning to take a wait and see approach. If they end of being as good as advertised, great. If they take a little time that is fine too.
 
Lee will likely enter the draft this season.

Now, this would be a smart decision on Hawkins/Willis part if they can graduate this year. Why not hunt for a bigger role elsewhere? They;ll have good programs contacting them.
 
It's feels weird to say this but I'd rather have Willis back than Poy or Lee. Not that I think he's a better player but just that the guys coming in will better fill the roles that Poy and Lee play. Willis would give us a 6'9" outside shooter that could come in quite handy.
 
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The likelihood of a medical redshirt is basically 0. You have to play in less than 30% of your teams games. I don't know if that includes post-season or just regular season. But if it only includes regular season, he played in 29% of our games last year, which is under 30% but is very close. So I don't think the NCAA would grant his medical redshirt. A medical redshirt is far from a sure thing and the NCAA seems to deny more than they grant. And with the players we have coming in and the need for open scholarships, UK will not allow the medical redshirt. So while it is a possibility, it is almost a certain not to happen.
Mojo - -Not trying to start a debate but I thought the medical redshirt was essentially automatic if the player meets the criteria - - verifiable season-ending injury and played less than the requisite % of the team's games. Whether Alex applies for it is a different question but I think he gets a medical redshirt if he applies.
 
Would love to have Lee and/or Poythress back.

Not sure either would be willing to take on a reserve role though, and that is likely what they would be looking at.

I would really like to see either Poythress of Lee back next season too, especially if Skal doesn't return. Sounds like it would probably have to be Lee due to eligibility. Also, I'm not at all sure that either wouldn't start next season alongside maybe Adebayo. - and regardless they would play a very prominent role.
 
The likelihood of a medical redshirt is basically 0. You have to play in less than 30% of your teams games. I don't know if that includes post-season or just regular season. But if it only includes regular season, he played in 29% of our games last year, which is under 30% but is very close. So I don't think the NCAA would grant his medical redshirt. A medical redshirt is far from a sure thing and the NCAA seems to deny more than they grant. And with the players we have coming in and the need for open scholarships, UK will not allow the medical redshirt. So while it is a possibility, it is almost a certain not to happen.
Poythress played in 9 games if I remember correctly. That is 23%. If he wants the medical redshirt he gets it. NCAA grants these based on qualifying and has a history of granting these when injury cut a season short. I wouldn't think UK or Cal would stand in the way either. Bad PR in my opinion.
 
The likelihood of a medical redshirt is basically 0. You have to play in less than 30% of your teams games. I don't know if that includes post-season or just regular season. But if it only includes regular season, he played in 29% of our games last year, which is under 30% but is very close. So I don't think the NCAA would grant his medical redshirt. A medical redshirt is far from a sure thing and the NCAA seems to deny more than they grant. And with the players we have coming in and the need for open scholarships, UK will not allow the medical redshirt. So while it is a possibility, it is almost a certain not to happen.
Oh yeah. Total games, including postseason count.
 
I would take all of them. As for the incoming class, I am learning to take a wait and see approach. If they end of being as good as advertised, great. If they take a little time that is fine too.

Of course you're right, but you won't convince many on here of that. Everybody was running Dakari off last year, saying he better be prepared to play behind Skal if he comes back. That's so laughable now, it's hard to believe anyone actually said that, but many did.
 
Poythress is a senior and is out of eligibility. He is gone no matter what.

Double-wrong.

1) Poythress has already graduated (in 3 yrs), and is working on his Master's degree
2) Poythress could apply for (& would get) a 5th year (medical redshirt for last year). But I don't think he will, most believe he will go pro after this season.
 
Poythress played in 9 games if I remember correctly. That is 23%. If he wants the medical redshirt he gets it. NCAA grants these based on qualifying and has a history of granting these when injury cut a season short. I wouldn't think UK or Cal would stand in the way either. Bad PR in my opinion.

Poythress played in 8 games last year, he missed one in Nov due to sickness. I guess it's possible they could count that one since he wasn't injured yet.
 
Poythress is not coming back. He is going to be 23 years old this year.

He will have his undergrad degree and a masters after this year. What's he going to do get another Master's degree?

I am sure he is ready to get on with his life. Whether it be in Europe playing basketball or doing something in the real world.

Whatever it is, it won't be at UK and I am sure Cal isn't all that upset about it.
 
How many times do you folks need to be told that if Poythress wants to get a medical hardship waiver he'll get it? However, I see no reason why he even bothers with unless he really wants to go ahead and finish up that masters degree
 
How many times do you folks need to be told that if Poythress wants to get a medical hardship waiver he'll get it? However, I see no reason why he even bothers with unless he really wants to go ahead and finish up that masters degree

He will already be done with it in May. Took summer classes last year and will finish it in 3 semesters.
 
We'll be loaded in the frontcourt so I could understand Lee wanting to do the graduate transfer thing if he doesn't go pro, but we're not that deep at guard and need Hawkins as an insurance policy for Fox if both Briscoe and Ulis enter the draft. Really hope him and Willis stay and that one of them is able to become a 6th or 7th man type contributor on a great team next season. We need role players to compliment the studs.
 
Double-wrong.

1) Poythress has already graduated (in 3 yrs), and is working on his Master's degree
2) Poythress could apply for (& would get) a 5th year (medical redshirt for last year). But I don't think he will, most believe he will go pro after this season.

I'm sorry. But point number 1 is all about semantics. Would have been more appropriate to say 4th year player and not senior but he is listed as a senior (as all 4th year players are). And you are right he can apply but this has not been mentioned as something that might happen. I was saying it isn't likely, and it isn't, not that it was impossible. And just cause you meet the qualifications for a medical redshirt, doesn't mean it will be granted. There has been an occasion in the past where the medical redshirt was denied for an athlete that met the qualifications. I was just pointing out that it is extremely unlikely that he will be back under a medical redshirt.
 
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It is rare for the NCAA to deny an athlete a medical redshirt when they meet the qualifications but isn't unprecedented. Almost all denials are for athletes that have slightly exceeded the 30% rule but apply anyway.
 
Personally, I think it is pretty cool that we may have 3 guys who are contributors actually receive their degrees...in three years. I know Poy did it too and that's impressive. It's also a testament to the type of guys we recruit. (Sorry, I know this reply has nothing to do with next year's team but I thought it was worth mentioning.)
 
Personally, I think it is pretty cool that we may have 3 guys who are contributors actually receive their degrees...in three years. I know Poy did it too and that's impressive. It's also a testament to the type of guys we recruit. (Sorry, I know this reply has nothing to do with next year's team but I thought it was worth mentioning.)
No. Can't be. I read the papers. The magazines. Watch the talking heads. This is UK. Where some guy named Calipari coaches. Who's a slime ball. Who cares nothing about anything other than winning at all costs. It's a NBA feeder program. OAD. Where no one cares about academics. :sunglasses:
 
The likelihood of a medical redshirt is basically 0. You have to play in less than 30% of your teams games. I don't know if that includes post-season or just regular season. But if it only includes regular season, he played in 29% of our games last year, which is under 30% but is very close. So I don't think the NCAA would grant his medical redshirt. A medical redshirt is far from a sure thing and the NCAA seems to deny more than they grant. And with the players we have coming in and the need for open scholarships, UK will not allow the medical redshirt. So while it is a possibility, it is almost a certain not to happen.

Bullshit. If the applicant meets both the percentage requirement and can prove what caused him to miss the rest of the season was a legit season-ending injury, the NCAA nearly always grants the medical waiver.

Now it is true that most assume Poy will choose not to apply for it and will be gone regardless. But for you to say his chances of getting one are zero is utter nonsense. He likely could get another year if he really wanted one. Quit pretending like you know more than you actually do.
 
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