I know injuries happen. But if Poythress had not gotten hurt, allowing us to continue The Platoon, I don't think there would have been anything Vegas or the NCAA could have done to stop us in 2015 short of canceling the tournament.
LMAO at superbowl final drive
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I also didn't understand why they didn't call more screens and sweeps. They were obviously getting destroyed up front and between the hashes.
I don't like the Bengals, but damnnnn, that is harsh!
I was for the Rams. But, that was a bad call. That was perfect defense.
Think it's easier to discuss the fraudulent bias when eliminating the team/fandom in a game. For instance look at Rams. This is a franchise that has gotten away with a blatant PI in an NFC Championship game that prevented a team from milking the clock, kicking a FG and winning (Saints). They needed that new stadium to be built/filled. So the year it opens, there's a Pandemic and nobody is spending $ for Kroenke. He's got some legal issue that was/is ongoing that was basically threatening the other owners, and all of the sudden a 4th seed in NFC hosts 2 Playoff games including NFC Championship game, and you add the Super Bowl (we'd gone entire lifetime without home teams involved-2 yrs in a row now including tough luck Stan having to make up some $).
In this postseason alone, the Rams had these benefits during big moments of games:
1. No review to see Kupp contacted before ruling him out of bounds on play prior to the deep ball to him in Tampa game
2. A line judge run in to contact the ball before the spike to set up game winning FG against Bucs a week after we were told the Umpire must run from behind the play and do this very thing during Dallas-49er game. So the league "corrected itself" apparently.
3. The joke of allowing them to run 4/5 plays after the play clock ran out against SF due to their vastly overrated HC blowing his timeouts due to desperation challenges that had 0 chance of being overturned. So instead of punishing the team for not having a timeout and getting a play off in the 40 seconds allotted they "lived in gray area" and were given extra time to snap ball. That does matter too.
4. How about the fact Andrew Whitworth was allowed to play off the LOS on any/every pass play and in the last drive he and Hovenstein literally committed 3 false starts which weren't called including prior to the phantom holding call. At some point this stuff needs to be called. 3rd and goal from the 13 yd line is different situation entirely.
5. The phantom holding call as mentioned repeatedly.
I understand the horrible NFL officiating most of the game--they let Chase facemask Ramsey but also didn't call Ramsey for the same play they called on Bengals (correct call) on grabbing the jersey for a defensive hold on last drive.
At some point pro leagues don't even try to hide things and this was one of those times. They want this presence in LA for some reason and we all know how it's going to end, but they just think it will work. So when we're 5 yrs from now and they have a stadium of 20K and most of those are opposing fans and talk of them moving elsewhere as it's happened 2/3 other times already creeps up, at least the league of "Player Safety" will have added at least 1 more regular season game to make it an even 18 and can put neutral site games in LA where actual FB fans can fill that place and make them some $ and give real FB fans a reason to go there instead of having to force some sort of Rams bandwagon. This is an organization that has openly tampered with contracted players, circumvented the salary cap (McVay's Dad knows about that from days with 49ers as an Exec), had league bend over backwards to help them, and now the mission is accomplished. What happens now is it's on them to carry this and when it fails (it will, much like the laughable Billie Jean King Woke moment for the coin toss WTF was that?) they'll have plenty of time to make up excuses as to why it didn't work this time. Re-set your next Rams move to LA for 2040.
In this postseason alone, the Rams had these benefits during big moments of games:
1. No review to see Kupp contacted before ruling him out of bounds on play prior to the deep ball to him in Tampa game
2. A line judge run in to contact the ball before the spike to set up game winning FG against Bucs a week after we were told the Umpire must run from behind the play and do this very thing during Dallas-49er game. So the league "corrected itself" apparently.
3. The joke of allowing them to run 4/5 plays after the play clock ran out against SF due to their vastly overrated HC blowing his timeouts due to desperation challenges that had 0 chance of being overturned. So instead of punishing the team for not having a timeout and getting a play off in the 40 seconds allotted they "lived in gray area" and were given extra time to snap ball. That does matter too.
4. How about the fact Andrew Whitworth was allowed to play off the LOS on any/every pass play and in the last drive he and Hovenstein literally committed 3 false starts which weren't called including prior to the phantom holding call. At some point this stuff needs to be called. 3rd and goal from the 13 yd line is different situation entirely.
5. The phantom holding call as mentioned repeatedly.
I understand the horrible NFL officiating most of the game--they let Chase facemask Ramsey but also didn't call Ramsey for the same play they called on Bengals (correct call) on grabbing the jersey for a defensive hold on last drive.
At some point pro leagues don't even try to hide things and this was one of those times. They want this presence in LA for some reason and we all know how it's going to end, but they just think it will work. So when we're 5 yrs from now and they have a stadium of 20K and most of those are opposing fans and talk of them moving elsewhere as it's happened 2/3 other times already creeps up, at least the league of "Player Safety" will have added at least 1 more regular season game to make it an even 18 and can put neutral site games in LA where actual FB fans can fill that place and make them some $ and give real FB fans a reason to go there instead of having to force some sort of Rams bandwagon. This is an organization that has openly tampered with contracted players, circumvented the salary cap (McVay's Dad knows about that from days with 49ers as an Exec), had league bend over backwards to help them, and now the mission is accomplished. What happens now is it's on them to carry this and when it fails (it will, much like the laughable Billie Jean King Woke moment for the coin toss WTF was that?) they'll have plenty of time to make up excuses as to why it didn't work this time. Re-set your next Rams move to LA for 2040.
First drop of the season too. I couldn't believe it. Hard to be mad at the guy, but damn you gotta catch the ball first then worry about everything else.
I am intrigued by conspiracy theories. If I was so inclined, the results in this year’s NFL playoffs would certainly add juice to the NFL is just the WWE’s big brother. What were the statistical odds that so many playoff games would end with game winning scores on the last or second-to-last drives?
Consistency is the most important thing in officiating in my opinion. If you are going to let them play you don't change that at the end of the game and make a call you weren't willing to make during the game. That effectively puts officials in control of who wins and who loses. The bottom line is if they had called every jersey grab a penalty throughout the game, we have no idea what the score would have been. We don't know how those penalties would have affected drives and scoring had they been called. I don't know if the Bengals would have won if it had been called more consistently, but I do know that both fan bases would be more accepting of the outcome if the officiating had been consistent throughout the game. Either call it tight or let them play, but don't change the way it's being called at the end of the game.
Arbitrary rules are part of the house advantage! For instance, “technically” they could call holding or illegal motion on damn near any play, just as they can call a foul or moving screen on any possession in BB.
I recently wrote a detailed post on how games are fixed by the gambling industry.
Yeah I felt it at the time, that was the game.
Also, Rams needed a first down they went to Kupp. Bengals went to Perine. And then Perine can’t even dive or attempt to catch that toss on the last play of the effing Super Bowl. Unreal.
The dude isn’t a total clown! I read the story further, and it turns out the Bengals bets were a hedge against a promotion he did at his stores.
$20 million in promotions- $9.5 million lost on the game = a $10.5 million profit! Lol, he still screwed the Bungals however.
We lost to an Auburn team down their best interior players....they had 2 guards that were chucking up junk. Herro was terrible and Hagans was a fiasco...we choked no matter how the reffing got handled.
I knew we were going to lose as soon as their injured player rolled into the stadium. Auburn started playing hero ball
I didnt even catch that and had to rewatch, but yeah he did kick that left leg back a split second before the snap. It wasnt as obvious to see but they have whistled a play dead for much less before.
Having had time to review quite a bit of the game myself, Joe is not going to be happy when they show him how many receivers he missed. On 2nd and 1 there are two receivers wide open in the middle yet he was locked on throwing the ball long or away and didn't even look at the easy 1st down throw over the middle.
Numerous times Joe just held the ball too long. For some reason instead of letting it go he was 2nd guessing himself into sacks.
The Rams were playing off and practically conceding the FG. We need one completion and Joe missed it or pulled the ball down instead of throwing it and took the sack. They got to him. Messed up his head. 1st time that has happened.
All these posters that keep mitigating how devastating all these hits on Joe are causing him physically need to look at QBs like Cam Newton that just had their careers fall off a cliff. Joe absolutely has already had his career cut short. He has been battered at an historic rate and the toll is yet to be seen but you saw some of it at the end of that game where he just couldn't pull the trigger on time and in rhythm.
He grabbed him with both hands on the break and then had his left arm wrapped around him when he batted the ball away. That's an easy hold.
I'm trying to remember what the specific stat was I saw this morning but it was something like "OL blocking efficiency" or some term and it was 14% for the Bengals for the game and by far the lowest they had seen. They just laughed in disbelief.
Yes, It was the worst pass blocking success win rate in Super Bowl history. Abysmal. Yet with the game on the line on 4th and 1 Zac has Joe drop back into shotgun so LA could tee off on him. At least up under center with play action you force them to respect the run. Just brain dead play calling on top of a HORRENDOUS decision on 2nd and 1 to run a go route and just waste a down. Even if you succeed with the stupid go route you're giving the ball right back to LA with enough time to easily go down and score a TD to beat you. Yet that call came directly from Zac.
Joe also didn't even look at two wide open receivers over the middle on that 2nd down play because Zac wanted the go route shot or throw it away, which Joe did without even looking at 2nd and 3rd options because he was shell shocked at that point. More reasons to not go into shotgun on 4th and 1.
Seriously, if you don't hire an OC to take the play calling away from Zac then you're just wasting your time.
Whitworth clearly moved early on the controversial play. Unlike the other action which happens so fast and in motion, that was clear. He didnt move he bounded back into protection. Saw the replay and the whole line seemed to move except the center who was late on the count. Hard way to lose but there have been worse. No one call was horrible but it was officiated differently the last drive.
I didn't really care who won this game. You can have hands on them and wrapped or whatever as long as it doesn't impact the body on the play. You can find other plays in the game as such. There isn't much there. Although I don't know why the argument is on that part of the play. The missed call on an entire OL false starting at the beginning of the play is the issue. It's an easy call if you're just awake and it's not debatable...and nullifies the entire play.
I didn't fully appreciate the no-look pass from Stafford in real time but after watching all the replays today that was sick AF. He had our safety biting hard and zipped it to Cupp dead on and in stride with a laser no-looker that was insane:
Yeah from the back judge it probably really looked like both hands around the waste hold, even though there was little hold and just a "feel" kind of thing on that one.
If you can't execute a 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 after averaging 5 yards a pop, you won't be SB champs.
I thought Perine got too many snaps as well. Also Carman had a bad back so Adeniji had to play most of the game vs Donald.
I thought Perine got too many snaps as well. Also Carman had a bad back so Adeniji had to play most of the game vs Donald.
Are you suggesting we no longer keep score and determine winners by who has the most fans?
Yep. This says it all.
People complaining about the facemask bot being called on us quickly forget that Ramsey was holding Higgins on our very first scoring drive in the end zone and we had to settle for 3. The face.ask made up for that.
Huber got drilled on a kickoff and they didn't throw a flag. Just absurd the refs come alive down the stretch. You let that shit go all game and then all of a sudden it's flag after flag because the NFL was afraid the Bengals were actually going to win.
Nearly the entire front page of ESPN for days before the game was dedicated to gambling on the game. Betting odds, like changes, prop bets, side bets — anything they could think of.
Apparently that’s all that matters now. No one cares about the game. It’s just an opportunity to gamble.
He's a tackle. Maybe that's the issue. They will draft a G at some point even if they sign one as a FA.
At least I hope they do.
So give them 4 more points and take away the 7 on the missed PI.
Rams win by 6 not 3
Oh, we will. I think we need to use free agency to go sign a starting RG and RT. And use the draft to get some OL depth and build some guys up instead of throwing them in to the frying pan. Get some pass rushers on D.
