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Levis’ Slide…

Will Levis didn't "approach" this last year any differently. The OC called the plays and restricted his movement. To say Levis "approached it" differently is either naive or just stupid. He did what he was asked to do
If this was already mentioned I apologize. If I remember correctly when were hiring an OC. Mark Stoops said after hiring Scang that Will had input, I completely understand that and agree. But I remember thinking for some reason it just didn’t feel or sound “right”. Almost felt maybe forced. Anyway Scang was an awful fit and terrible for Levis. Ultimately Will is responsible for Will, but I do place a lot of this at Scangs feet.
 
A slip was always possible and not totally unexpected, especially once everyone saw Anthony Richardson up close. Someone was always going to drop out of the top 5 once Richardson blew up.

Falling all the way out of the first round is a bit head scratching.

That's the NFL draft for you. Just as easily as you can pencil in players, you can pencil in GMs/front offices getting cute and reaching.

I mean it's a passing game now and a WR wasn't selected until 20? What sense does that make?

I like LA top of the second. Perfect situation. Stafford is old and injury prone, one can also only assume Liam has been on the phone with Sean McVay.

Seattle for basically the same reason. Geno is older and the Seahawks need to have someone they can develop for a season or two.
 
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And we had all sorts of Ky fans hopeful he would be the numero uno … lol you fools
I do apologize for my poorly worded comment .. It's ok , and not foolish to HOPE Will Levis went #1 last night , but at some point you have to look at his body of work , his strengths , and yes his flaws , and apply some degree of logic that a guy looked VERY promising in year 1 in Lex looked lost and confused in year 2 . His vision , and ability to go from look 1 to look 2 to possibly receiver 3 was next to non existent . He locks in on WRs , he misses open ones . This is what I saw when observed live for 2 years . In year one his feet and a very good O line hid those defeciences , And having Wan'dale sure helped . If you were not living on every breath offered by KSR and a couple other home town web sites begging for click bait you could see why WL slid last night .
 
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He will go to a team that needs him n first pick of 2nd round.

If he plays well the money lost on the first contract won't matter in the long run.
 
The Big Booger said Levis had "some poor stat games" which seemed to matter to him but Richardson's "poor stat games" didn't seem to matter. Whatever.

Guess Levis must've pissed in McShay's cereal or porked his girlfriend...he was very vile and vindictive toward Levis all night. Kiper finally told him: "Levis will be a good NFL QB whether you hate him or not." Very surprising comment. McShay just smirked, no comment.
 
The Big Booger said Levis had "some poor stat games" which seemed to matter to him but Richardson's "poor stat games" didn't seem to matter. Whatever.

Guess Levis must've pissed in McShay's cereal or porked his girlfriend...he was very vile and vindictive toward Levis all night. Kiper finally told him: "Levis will be a good NFL QB whether you hate him or not." Very surprising comment. McShay just smirked, no comment.
Look at how Levis played vs. UGA 2 times and Richardson?
Look at how Levis played head to head vs. Richardson this year?

Richardson never had good stretches of QB play...>Will was amazing down the stretch of 2021. If people can't see Coen/Scangerello was a big part of the Levis story.....don't need to be an amazing scout to see the offensive coordinator was a problem all the way around last year.
 
Look at how Levis played vs. UGA 2 times and Richardson?
Look at how Levis played head to head vs. Richardson this year?

Richardson never had good stretches of QB play...>Will was amazing down the stretch of 2021. If people can't see Coen/Scangerello was a big part of the Levis story.....don't need to be an amazing scout to see the offensive coordinator was a problem all the way around last year.
Absolutely and this is one thing Stoops CANNOT/MUST NOT screw up again.
 
Heard on the radio that he came off as "weird" in some of the interviews. "Aloof" was another word. He is kind of a dork that is not exactly "down to earth", so I could see that. Hope somebody comes up to get him at 32 so we can trade back.
 
There is zero rational explanation for why Richardson was #4. None. Any attempt to explain it is just a reach and a guess, because none of it makes sense.

Case in point: the only thing that makes any sense at all has yet to be mentioned by anyone - Levis' age.

If a talking head said Levis being 24 vs ar being 20 made the difference, I can at least see that. Yet noone said it and it's never been mentioned so far as I know.

Imo either Levis' agent got outworked or the colts "erratic" owner just randomly made the call.
 
There is zero rational explanation for why Richardson was #4. None. Any attempt to explain it is just a reach and a guess, because none of it makes sense.

Case in point: the only thing that makes any sense at all has yet to be mentioned by anyone - Levis' age.

If a talking head said Levis being 24 vs ar being 20 made the difference, I can at least see that. Yet noone said it and it's never been mentioned so far as I know.

Imo either Levis' agent got outworked or the colts "erratic" owner just randomly made the call.
Yeah and all the testing meant nothing. Stroud's dumber than a coal bucket but it doesn't seem to matter.
 
As I watched the first round unfold, I kept thinking: so many NFL teams will be having QB problems and looking for a QB this year and many will be 'needing' a franchise QB in next year's draft but only 3 got drafted this year so far (all with question marks). You look at the NFL rosters and maybe half of the teams right now have a QB1 that, barring injury, the team is very happy to roll with. All the others, whether they admit it or not, have a QB issue. Will may not ever be much more than a solid backup but AR15 will either be great or a complete and utter failure so why take him at #4? Young is really good but very slight and it wouldn't surprise me if he is injury prone. Stroud had some huge advantages at OSU as his WRs were probably the best in college and he almost always enjoyed a significant talent gap between his WRs vs the opponent's secondary. Plus, he never played under center. Is he Justin Fields 2.0? I know his skillset is different but OSU hasn't exactly set the world on fire producing QBs through all their winning seasons.

I hope Will is hugely motivated by this draft debacle and uses it to fuel his competitive desire to be the absolute best he can be to show guys like McShay how little they actually know about football.
 
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Colts hoping AR is the next Jackson or Hurts. They even brought in the Offensive Coordinator to install the same system. Until he learns to be a true QB he will be a glorified RB. It’s a skill set he had above Levis.

As far as Levis I believe he came off as too cocky in the interviews. This may bring him down a notch. IMO he will get drafted early today and will get to show what he can do.
They might be hoping for that but Jackson and Hurts were both elite players in college. Jackson won a Heisman and Hurts was SEC Offensive Player of the Year, not to mention Big 12 Newcomer of the Year.

Any of these hopes with Richardson are based on being a workout warrior because on the field he has been mediocre at the absolute best. His ascension to a top 5 pick in the draft is one of the more bizarre things I have seen in the NFL draft.
 
There are 4 guys that were invited to the green room that didn’t get drafted last night. There are usually 4 or 5 guys. Guys slide….It’s always been a part of the draft.
Does NOT excuse that BUTTHOLE McShay with his smart_ss comments EVERY time a pick was made that WASN'T Will!!!

My beef is more with ESPN for CONSTANTLY showing Will and his family KNOWING how hard this whole situation was for him. I didn't see ANY of the OTHER kids on ESPN last night!!!
 
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Does NOT excuse that BUTTHOLE McShay with his smart_ss comments EVERY time a pick was made that WASN'T Will!!!

My beef is more with ESPN for CONSTANTLY showing Will and his family KNOWING how hard this whole situation was for him. I didn't see ANY of the OTHER kids on ESPN last night!!!
ESPN took great joy in showing the misery Levis was enduring.
 
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They might be hoping for that but Jackson and Hurts were both elite players in college. Jackson won a Heisman and Hurts was SEC Offensive Player of the Year, not to mention Big 12 Newcomer of the Year.

Any of these hopes with Richardson are based on being a workout warrior because on the field he has been mediocre at the absolute best. His ascension to a top 5 pick in the draft is one of the more bizarre things I have seen in the NFL draft.
Exaclty....Lamar won the heisman and Hurts was pretty close his last year at Oklahoma. RIchardson played 2 year and Florida went 6-7 both years.

Lamar Jackson was picked 22 by Ravens
Jaylen Hurts was 53rd pick

Both were very successful in college....yet Richardson goes #4....truly astounding decision
 
Does NOT excuse that BUTTHOLE McShay with his smart_ss comments EVERY time a pick was made that WASN'T Will!!!

My beef is more with ESPN for CONSTANTLY showing Will and his family KNOWING how hard this whole situation was for him. I didn't see ANY of the OTHER kids on ESPN last night!!!

ESPN took great joy in showing the misery Levis was enduring.

I think they also liked that he was surrounded by two or three young ladies.

It looked like a soap opera shoot on that couch.

Media loves a ”story”. They love a ”Bad story“ most. And if there isn’t a story, just create one.
 
i heard Kurt Warner on Dan Patrick show a few years ago and KW said he can teach anyone to properly throw a football and to be a qb, but what what he said and something no one can teach, and which is basically genetic, is the ability to comprehend and process everything that is going on is the quickest manor. as an example, most qb's are expected to get rid of the ball in 2 seconds or less so even if you are 95% of HOF TB12, that 5% difference means TB gets rid of the ball and another qb gets sacked. and imagine if you are only 90% of TB. if as a qb, it takes you .05 seconds longer to process something you are a backup qb. and that functionality within the brain cannot be taught. it's inherent. i am a high energy person sometimes and my brain works in microseconds and my reaction times are super fast. i can't teach you that, it's natural. so the S2, which i think 15 teams currently use, tries to extrapolate those processing times. Vince Young is a good example on the other side, he would just run because he couldn't process things quick enough.
I agree and I think that’s where Stroud will ultimately fail. Bryce Young, although slim seems like he has that processing speed. He played in the best conference in College and played amazingly well. He scored thru the roof on the S2 test as well. His frame is for sure a hinderance just like Kyler Murray’s has been a little bit.
 
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They might be hoping for that but Jackson and Hurts were both elite players in college. Jackson won a Heisman and Hurts was SEC Offensive Player of the Year, not to mention Big 12 Newcomer of the Year.

Any of these hopes with Richardson are based on being a workout warrior because on the field he has been mediocre at the absolute best. His ascension to a top 5 pick in the draft is one of the more bizarre things I have seen in the NFL draft.
I agree, there is no way his tape showed an NFL QB. I think it’s an extreme reach to get a guy like Josh Allen for Indy. I think AR could be a pro player for sure and a good one at another position with his athleticism. He feels like so many of the other hybrid QB’s that always failed outside Michael Vick for the longest time to me, from what I’ve seen when we play them and Florida since he’s been there.
 
Exaclty....Lamar won the heisman and Hurts was pretty close his last year at Oklahoma. RIchardson played 2 year and Florida went 6-7 both years.

Lamar Jackson was picked 22 by Ravens
Jaylen Hurts was 53rd pick

Both were very successful in college....yet Richardson goes #4....truly astounding decision
They might be hoping for that but Jackson and Hurts were both elite players in college. Jackson won a Heisman and Hurts was SEC Offensive Player of the Year, not to mention Big 12 Newcomer of the Year.

Any of these hopes with Richardson are based on being a workout warrior because on the field he has been mediocre at the absolute best. His ascension to a top 5 pick in the draft is one of the more bizarre things I have seen in the NFL draft.
I honestly believe the Colts didn’t want to be “the team” that passes on AR and then see him blow up in 2-3 years. Not saying he will be that good but it’s all based on potential. Very similar to how the NBA drafts.

If it was all about stats…Oscar T would have been the #1 pick last year in the NBA.
 
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The screw up , the monumental screw up , of stoops neutering Livas and telling him not to be a playmaker , but to be a classic pocket passer not only cost WL millions , it cost UK several wins and a great season last year .
Not so sure this was CMS doing. Not even sure it was Scangerello's, but more likely him than CMS.

I just will never believe a physical attack, run first coach like CMS suddenly decides to eliminate 25% of his offense by not allowing QB run plays.

I actually think this decision may have come from someone in the WL camp to try and protect his draft status and prevent injuries.

I believe it was a condition for him to return for another year to UK.

That decision cost WL a lot of money. JMO.
 
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The Big Booger said Levis had "some poor stat games" which seemed to matter to him but Richardson's "poor stat games" didn't seem to matter. Whatever.

Guess Levis must've pissed in McShay's cereal or porked his girlfriend...he was very vile and vindictive toward Levis all night. Kiper finally told him: "Levis will be a good NFL QB whether you hate him or not." Very surprising comment. McShay just smirked, no comment.
I couldn’t believe McShay was dogging Will as bad as he was! He would of never rolled Richardson as bad as he did Will!

Any so called UK fan that didn’t want to see Will, bank last night first round money!! Hmm!! Can’t be a true fan of our program!!
Wish you the best Will!
 
McShay pointed specifically to his lack of comfortability inside the pocket as a major concern.

“I think inside the pocket — the biggest thing studying tape, is inside the pocket when he was bottled up a little bit and pressure started to come, I don’t think he trusted his eyes and he didn’t quite see the whole field.”


^ That part I can definitely see, it's what I always thought watching Levis as well.

The part that shocks me is that he cost himself in the interviews. I would have bet a lot of money that Levis would crush the interviews. That surprises me.
 
Not much of a college football guy.. But I still believe Levis playing in the SEC, for a non-football program (even though we've been pretty solid lately), going up against elite talent almost every week, is worth more than people think. And it's not like he had some great team around him, or great offensive schemes.

It's kind of why I liked Josh Allen on draft day.. he had to play above himself and elevate his team at Wyoming.. Where I'm not so sure QBs for Bama and Ohio St. aren't the ones being elevated.
 
McShay pointed specifically to his lack of comfortability inside the pocket as a major concern.

“I think inside the pocket — the biggest thing studying tape, is inside the pocket when he was bottled up a little bit and pressure started to come, I don’t think he trusted his eyes and he didn’t quite see the whole field.”


^ That part I can definitely see, it's what I always thought watching Levis as well.

The part that shocks me is that he cost himself in the interviews. I would have bet a lot of money that Levis would crush the interviews. That surprises me.
Re interview, I agree. Don't know if that's true or if it's some shithouse rumor started by somebody who wasn't there.
 
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Exaclty....Lamar won the heisman and Hurts was pretty close his last year at Oklahoma. RIchardson played 2 year and Florida went 6-7 both years.

Lamar Jackson was picked 22 by Ravens
Jaylen Hurts was 53rd pick

Both were very successful in college....yet Richardson goes #4....truly astounding decision
Have seen the kid play twice in person and this is truly a head scratcher.
 
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I think he should have come back to Kentucky.
I agree with this. If you think about it, Will had a couple of seasons at Penn State where they used him as a running QB. He had one season being coached by Coen, then Scangajello had no clue how to coach him and ruined any progress he made the previous year. He should have played in the bowl game and he should have come back for his last year. That said, I think we could be better off with Leary. But for Will, he would have benefitted from another season of college to work on his reads and progressions, and decision making.
 
McShay pointed specifically to his lack of comfortability inside the pocket as a major concern.

“I think inside the pocket — the biggest thing studying tape, is inside the pocket when he was bottled up a little bit and pressure started to come, I don’t think he trusted his eyes and he didn’t quite see the whole field.”


^ That part I can definitely see, it's what I always thought watching Levis as well.

The part that shocks me is that he cost himself in the interviews. I would have bet a lot of money that Levis would crush the interviews. That surprises me.

He has major issues for sure. Noone denied that. Even still he put a way better product on film than Richardson and it isn't close.

No matter how they try to spin it, nothing on the field matters otherwise Richardson wouldn't even be picked before round 3.

Hell even if it's physical traits Levis isn't that much slower and showed plenty of athletic ability with many hurdles combined with a cannon arm.

Add in the experience operating an NFL offense for two years including under center.

None of it makes any sense. The only rational thing in Richardson's favor is his age and noone even mentions that
 
Agree that was an iffy pick especially considering he's never been under center. At least it's defensible considering he played well especially that Georgia game.

Richardson just makes zero sense. Looked awful in every game but one or maybe two. Never played under center. At very best won't be ready for three years. Yet drafted by a team who needs someone now. It's lunacy
AR is the perfect fit for Indy. They love crappy qbs so he will fit nicely.
 
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I really hope Levis uses this in a good way and gets the opportunity to prove people wrong. Just hate the embarrassment this brings to the program.
 
I do apologize for my poorly worded comment .. It's ok , and not foolish to HOPE Will Levis went #1 last night , but at some point you have to look at his body of work , his strengths , and yes his flaws , and apply some degree of logic that a guy looked VERY promising in year 1 in Lex looked lost and confused in year 2 . His vision , and ability to go from look 1 to look 2 to possibly receiver 3 was next to non existent . He locks in on WRs , he misses open ones . This is what I saw when observed live for 2 years . In year one his feet and a very good O line hid those defeciences , And having Wan'dale sure helped . If you were not living on every breath offered by KSR and a couple other home town web sites begging for click bait you could see why WL slid last night .
AR looked like a confused bozo with all the talent UF had. Winning matters and Levis proved he was a winner when the bottle cap glass guy didn’t push his buttons.
 
I really hope Levis uses this in a good way and gets the opportunity to prove people wrong. Just hate the embarrassment this brings to the program.
When he gets drafted Will won’t care he just has to go out and prove it if he wants to get paid. It stings the pride a bit now but maybe he will end up with a contender. I mean SF needs a QB imo. Purdy was a flash in the pan and lance is completely unproven.
 
I agree with this. If you think about it, Will had a couple of seasons at Penn State where they used him as a running QB. He had one season being coached by Coen, then Scangajello had no clue how to coach him and ruined any progress he made the previous year. He should have played in the bowl game and he should have come back for his last year. That said, I think we could be better off with Leary. But for Will, he would have benefitted from another season of college to work on his reads and progressions, and decision making.
Agree with everything, but playing in the bowl game. All things said, everything you read he was going to be a t10 pick.
 
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