Legal question.

[SkyPrince1]

Will the 2nd degree murder charge against the GA US shooter's dad hold or will it be pled down or dismissed entirety.
I know there are several on this forum with criminal law experience, just looking for an informed take on how this will possibly play out.

 

[docholiday51]

My guess is that the charges won't stick, too many lesser charges are in play. This being such a high profile incident it is possible but the father's only connection is buying the gun(so far). Facilitation is likely to be on the table.

 

[DreadLox]

My guess is that the charges won't stick, too many lesser charges are in play. This being such a high profile incident it is possible but the father's only connection is buying the gun(so far). Facilitation is likely to be on the table.

IIRC, the dad bought the gun AFTER the kid had been investigated for having made threats.

 

[SkyPrince1]

IIRC, the dad bought the gun AFTER the kid had been investigated for having made threats.

Yeah that's taking poor judgement to the extreme but did he break the law?
I've heard nothing to suggest that he was under any kind of order from the courts or the FBI to remove guns or not have guns on the premise.

 

[DreadLox]

Yeah that's taking poor judgement to the extreme but did he break the law?
I've heard nothing to suggest that he was under any kind of order from the courts or the FBI to remove guns or not have guns on the premise.

Well, the father did break the law. You must be over 18 to own a gun in Georgia.

 

[chroix]

He’s gonna catch something but doubt it’s murder 2.

 

[SkyPrince1]

Well, the father did break the law. You must be over 18 to own a gun in Georgia.

Who was the actual legal owner of the gun?
I know the gun was gifted to the son but does that make him the legal owner of he was not the purchaser?

 

[SkyPrince1]

He’s gonna catch something but doubt it’s murder 2.

FWIW, the guy who sold the gun that killed Steve McNair got 30 months.
Idk how much of that was the fact he possessed the gun in the first place as a convicted felon.

 

[SkyPrince1]

Crazy that the FBI let the kid walk without as much as a psych eval.
Should have been evaluated and findings turned over to a juvenile court to make the determination of whether his residence should have been mandated to be gun free which is common in EPO cases

 

[Joerules19]

IIRC, the dad bought the gun AFTER the kid had been investigated for having made threats.

The article I read said dad purchased the gun as a Xmas gift in 2023 and allowed him to have access to the gun when he knew the son was a threat to himself and others. It was unclear when the boy was investigated

 

[chroix]

FWIW, the guy who sold the gun that killed Steve McNair got 30 months.
Idk how much of that was the fact he possessed the gun in the first place as a convicted felon.

This guy will probably end up with multiple accessory charges. If the prosecutor is gung ho (seems to be) it could get interesting.

 

[AIChatGPT]

can’t see how the charges stick.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

This is going to be very interesting. On one hand the dad bought a gun in the same home as a child who threatened to shoot the school up. On the other, the gun was bought after law enforcement investigated and declared the kid not a threat.

Was it a poor decision? Yes. However if law enforcement clears someone, I dont see how you can punish them for actions consistent with those findings.

Will be interesting.

 

[BankerCat12]

I would think the case where the parents were just recently convicted of a crime when there son was involved in a mass shooting would be a case to compare this to but I am not sure of the ins and outs of each of them.

 

[LordEgg]

The mom is a shit show too from what I’ve read (assuming it accurate). Sounds like this kid was subjected to a lot and the parents possess zero judgment. That said he did it and may fry down there. Dad will end up with reckless homicide / manslaughter times 4 and a host of other charges. I could see dad not getting out of prison for a long time. Also the aunt appears wacko as well.

 

[Tskware]

I probably would wait for a while and see what the facts turn out to be before speculating, he may end up innocent, or may end up with a lot of explaining to do. Sounds like the kid had a really bad family life (not that it excuses his actions in any way)

 

[Nightwish84]

It's a good question but at the end of the day, it's just another in a long line of tragedies that shouldn't have happened and some people shouldn't be parents. Imagine authorities questioning your child for threats of violence and you still believe it's a good idea to buy him a weapon a year later, at 14 years of age. I've said this many times in the past but not everyone needs or should have a gun. I have no sympathy for these shitty parents. I mean, are we going to find out the parents are nutcases too who've said some crazy stuff online as well? Like father, like son.

 

[august-west]

Crazy that the FBI let the kid walk without as much as a psych eval.
Should have been evaluated and findings turned over to a juvenile court to make the determination of whether his residence should have been mandated to be gun free which is common in EPO cases

This guy will probably end up with multiple accessory charges. If the prosecutor is gung ho (seems to be) it could get interesting.

To me this reeks of the authorities going overboard in order to cover their butts due to letting the kid off earlier. I personally think it’s a crock of crap and no way would I vote to convict if I were on that jury:

 

[CaptainBoogerBuns]

The mom is a shit show too from what I’ve read (assuming it accurate). Sounds like this kid was subjected to a lot and the parents possess zero judgment. That said he did it and may fry down there. Dad will end up with reckless homicide / manslaughter times 4 and a host of other charges. I could see dad not getting out of prison for a long time. Also the aunt appears wacko as well.

Yep. She was caught with meth, Fentanyl, a glass pipe while vandalizing her estranged husband’s truck.

Georgia school shooting: Teen suspect's mom's criminal record part of emerging picture of troubled home life

The 14-year-old Apalachee High School shooting suspect's mother had a criminal history, which included drug use and property damage.

www.foxnews.com

This kid was a tomato in a white-trash salad.

 

[HymanKaplan]

I had guns in the house, (secured) when my kids were young. Even took my son and daughter out shooting occasionally.

My son started to dsiplay some concerning emotional issues , around 6th or 7th grade. The first thing I did, even before I started getting him help for them, was, I got rid of every firearm in the house (even though they were secured in a gun safe), and my house remained gun free until he moved out. It's too big of a risk, to keep them around in a case like that. Not saying that should be the LAW, but it shouldn't NEED a law to make someone understand that that is the prudent thing to do.

 

[Nightwish84]

What we need is of course more guns. Everyone needs a gun, ya see. The Wild West was cool. Bang bang. Rinse/repeat.

My dad loves to hunt; it's not my thing. When he bought his first gun, he showed it to me and told me never to go near it. I might've been 9 or something. Anyway, he was responsible and in-turn, his child was responsible.

All I know is, it's been a gorgeous day and we're going to see more gorgeous days as summer turns to fall. And because of constant gun violence, we either don't feel safe as a society or some are now just staying inside their homes. That's not healthy in any way. There's more guns and more people with guns and people feel less safe. Funny how that works.