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Late Offered DeLaurier Commits to Duke

I dont know how to take this duke visit tomorrow. It either means K is desperate to stay in it because he knows odds are against him and this is a hail mary. Im going to go with that.

And Ulis was a 4 star. 30-40 if i recall

Ulis was a 5-star, composite ranking (RSCI) of 18, I believe.
 
You know, I've tried hard to like K. I've tried to remember his moments of graciousness and good sportsmanship, but he's like the really pretty, too perfect cheerleader that you can't help but despise, and it eventually comes out that she is banging the entire football team.

K really needs that molesting collies storyline to emerge. I think the entire sport would benefit.

Cal meanwhile is like the Magneto of college coaches, the inveterate bad guy, but you can kind of see he has a point, and at the end of the day, you kind of suspect he is going to be a hero.
This is beyond sick. U seriously need help
 
Duke fan here. The only guy who I don't understand the staff going after is Bolden. Traditional centers like him are becoming less important in the modern game, and have rarely played a big role under K. In recent years, okafor was an offensive force, and plumlee took 4 years to develop (something I doubt bolden is looking for). giles is a no-brainer as a take, and duke insiders seem to think he is a lock. gabriel is very much a duke-type player skill-wise, and he and his family are duke fans. If he is chomping at the bit to get exposure and be OAD he should go elsewhere. but he could still get an easy 20 mpg as a freshman (maybe still go pro) and come back to be the man as a sophomore. I personally think that fits him better because he is very talented, but seems a little too raw to be a big-impact guy as a freshman.

I can situation where jeter, giles, and gabriel split time at the 4/5, tatum gets the 3 with a guard-type backing him up (we'll say matt jones), and thornton, kennard, jones, and jackson in the back court.

That is an 8-man rotation, so it would fit in K's wheelhouse. It assumes that Allen is gone, Delaurier doesn't play much (I'm sure he doesn't want this, but he is the type who would sit for a year on a title-contending team without too much of an issue), and that vrankovic and obi don't play. Also assuming/hoping bolden doesn't come. in the case that jeter was somehow oad or somebody got hurt, everyone else could play a few more minutes (tatum could easily play the 4), and somebody from vrank/obi/delaurier could get a little pt.

Also, giles would be spending a decent amount of time at the center (10-15 mpg) which he probably doesn't want. I don't think he will mind it if it comes to pass, though. he has good size to defend the center position, and would be aided by good rebounders at the 3 and 4. On offense, K would likely isolate him to face up against guys and shoot short jumpers or drive by them, or bully smaller guys around the rim.
 
Duke fan here. The only guy who I don't understand the staff going after is Bolden. Traditional centers like him are becoming less important in the modern game, and have rarely played a big role under K.

If Duke is still going after Bolden , and I mean really going after him... that could mean a few different things....

1.) they are not sure if Giles is a lock
2.) Jeter might look good enough to be OAD... I think this is possible, maybe he's not ready but he had 9'2" standing reach and could be drafted off potential in the first round
3.) How good is Obi? they have seen him in practice for a year, do they expect him to contribute?
 
Just from what I've read...

Giles is just about a done deal.
Jeter isn't expected to be OAD.
Obi isn't as far along as the staff may have liked.

Again, I have no sources on staff or anything... just what I've picked up listening.
 
Duke is recruiting now how UK was from 2009-2014. They're the "1" school to UK's "1a" when it comes to coolness and being the place most elite guys look at. They've just got the momentum right now because they're fresh off a title and UK lost in the Final Four with maybe the deepest team in college basketball history.

I'm actually curious -- not being an ass -- does winning a title help with recruiting? Honestly - I feel like the year after we won the title our class was good for us.. but by no means the best under Cal?
 
Just from what I've read...
Jeter isn't expected to be OAD.
Again, I have no sources on staff or anything... just what I've picked up listening.

I agree - but it wouldn't surprise me because of his size... he's going to get PT and if he fairs well, he's a first rounder. I just checked Draftexpress and his standing reach was 9'2.5".
Look at a guy like Daniel Orton, late first round draft pick based on size/potential. Duke has definitely stepped up their recruiting and with that comes the "oh shit" didn't think he was going surprises at the end of the season.
Predicting lineups becomes impossible....
 
I agree - but it wouldn't surprise me because of his size... he's going to get PT and if he fairs well, he's a first rounder. I just checked Draftexpress and his standing reach was 9'2.5".
Look at a guy like Daniel Orton, late first round draft pick based on size/potential. Duke has definitely stepped up their recruiting and with that comes the "oh shit" didn't think he was going surprises at the end of the season.
Predicting lineups becomes impossible....

Oh, absolutely. And the league LOVES a guy with physical tools.
 
Check the actuarial tables, there, bub. It isn't 100%.

Why would you call him/her 'bub' with your answer? Perhaps you did not mean it that way but it reads as if you are talking down to him/her by calling them 'bub'. You asked a question and that poster gave an answer. I agree with you however in that it may be highly probable it is not 100% because it is in the future and there is no way of accurately predicting what may or may not happen.
 
Some UK fans like to downplay Kennard but he is a great addition at Duke and would have been the same at UK. Always gives 100 percent, knows his way around the basket and is a solid if not amazing shooter.
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If Duke is still going after Bolden , and I mean really going after him... that could mean a few different things....

1.) they are not sure if Giles is a lock
2.) Jeter might look good enough to be OAD... I think this is possible, maybe he's not ready but he had 9'2" standing reach and could be drafted off potential in the first round
3.) How good is Obi? they have seen him in practice for a year, do they expect him to contribute?
Dude Jeter is garbage. Ive watched him multiple times.
 
Alkins will be at an Adidas school IMO and UK isn't an option. Bolden will be at UK or Duke. The same can be said for Gabriel and Giles (although Duke is way out in front for both).

UK's Class: Fox, Monk, Killeya-Jones, Bolden and one more unknown IMO.
 
Alkins will be at an Adidas school IMO and UK isn't an option. Bolden will be at UK or Duke. The same can be said for Gabriel and Giles (although Duke is way out in front for both).

UK's Class: Fox, Monk, Killeya-Jones, Bolden and one more unknown IMO.

I could live with that. Probably ends up being Simmons as the fifth guy in that situation.

Starters
G Fox
G Monk
G Simmons
F Killeya-Jones
F Bolden

Key Reserves
G Mulder
G Matthews
F Humphries
 
I think Lee will still be here and Humphries is a lot better than people are giving him credit for. It wouldn't surprise me if we end up with someone no one is talking about.
 
Alkins will be at an Adidas school IMO and UK isn't an option. Bolden will be at UK or Duke. The same can be said for Gabriel and Giles (although Duke is way out in front for both).

UK's Class: Fox, Monk, Killeya-Jones, Bolden and one more unknown IMO.
I thought Maryland was leading for Gabriel?
 
I thought Maryland was leading for Gabriel?

I think it was only because Duke had supposedly laid off. Seems if Duke wants him and can convince him that they can have all the bigs and still use Gabriel then he will end up there. Hopefully he realizes hes not going to get the amount of pt there that he would here.
 
When did Rupp Rafters become off limits to non-UK fans? I must have missed the memo on that rule. [winking]

Man, I so wish you would have gotten that memo.

I just love how you "non uk" fans like to start shit on here and twist ones words. I think you should go back to whatever board you came from and learn some manners. My Mama always taught me to be courteous and polite when visiting another's home. ;)


Some of you "non UK fans" are a real piece of work. Just where did I say RR was off limits to anyone? I love when rival tools come over and visit. I'm always needing a good laugh throughout the day. My workday can be rather boring sometimes. Anyway, I just asked him a simply question. Are you his big brother or something? Trying to protect lil brother? I didnt realize I was even talking to you. Can he not handle his own posts and replies? I see he did "like" your comment. [pfftt]

I guess I will have to spell it out for you. It was just a simple question...Why are you here? Are you here to really talk basketball? To have an insightful, respectful, and intelligent discussion about our teams? Cause I can handle those "non UK fans" all day and everyday. I dont mind the fact that you arent UK fans, i mind the fact that your posts are just plain ignorant and disrespectful to our program and fan base. Thats what bothers me. I'll talk college bball with the best of them and we will have a good ole time. That is what i was asking him Mr. Mark. Are you here to have good discussion or are you simply here to run your trap and spill out ignorant propaganda about your school and fan base, and act surprise that everyone thinks you're an idiot?

There it is, spelled out for ya But if you took it as an off limits memo, then by all means.........

You know what they say....Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
 
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If Duke is still going after Bolden , and I mean really going after him... that could mean a few different things....

1.) they are not sure if Giles is a lock
2.) Jeter might look good enough to be OAD... I think this is possible, maybe he's not ready but he had 9'2" standing reach and could be drafted off potential in the first round
3.) How good is Obi? they have seen him in practice for a year, do they expect him to contribute?

there hasn't been a hint of doubt expressed by any duke insider about giles in several months. I don't know if Duke is going to get him, but I don't think the staff is overly worried about losing him.

Agree on Jeter. Apparently he wants to be OAD so we'll have to see what happens there. I can't see him going without a first round guarantee though.

Obi has apparently been a bit of a letdown so far. Still, though, with the stats he put up at Rice and a few years at Duke, he should be good for 10 mpg.
 
I could live with that. Probably ends up being Simmons as the fifth guy in that situation.

Starters
G Fox
G Monk
G Simmons
F Killeya-Jones
F Bolden

Key Reserves
G Mulder
G Matthews
F Humphries

Matthews would most likely start over Simmons in this situation.
 
I think you should go back to whatever board you came from and learn some manners!
When a Mod tells me that, then I certainly will.
Why are you here? Are you here to really talk basketball? To have an insightful, respectful, and intelligent discussion about our teams?
You must have missed all of my previous posts and the multitude of UK fans on this board who have been quite welcoming, particularly in the threads mocking UNC. Too bad.
 
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Man, I so wish you would have gotten that memo.

I just love how you "non uk" fans like to start shit on here and twist ones words. I think you should go back to whatever board you came from and learn some manners. My Mama always taught me to be courteous and polite when visiting another's home. ;)


Some of you "non UK fans" are a real piece of work. Just where did I say RR was off limits to anyone? I love when rival tools come over and visit. I'm always needing a good laugh throughout the day. My workday can be rather boring sometimes. Anyway, I just asked him a simply question. Are you his big brother or something? Trying to protect lil brother? I didnt realize I was even talking to you. Can he not handle his own posts and replies? I see he did "like" your comment. [pfftt]

I guess I will have to spell it out for you. It was just a simple question...Why are you here? Are you here to really talk basketball? To have an insightful, respectful, and intelligent discussion about our teams? Cause I can handle those "non UK fans" all day and everyday. I dont mind the fact that you arent UK fans, i mind the fact that your posts are just plain ignorant and disrespectful to our program and fan base. Thats what bothers me. I'll talk college bball with the best of them and we will have a good ole time. That is what i was asking him Mr. Mark. Are you here to have good discussion or are you simply here to run your trap and spill out ignorant propaganda about your school and fan base, and act surprise that everyone thinks you're an idiot?

There it is, spelled out for ya But if you took it as an off limits memo, then by all means.........

You know what they say....Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
Boy I'm glad @Mark Gastineau was here to protect me! you seem like a real tough guy!! :joy:
 
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When a Mod tells me that, then I certainly will.

You must have missed all of my previous posts and the multitude of UK fans on this board who have been quite welcoming, particularly in the threads mocking UNC. Too bad.


Ok, one more time I guess.....I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT YOU OR YOUR POST. What is so difficult to understand about that? No, I did not see your post mocking UNC, nor do I care to see them. That doesn't make you liked around here, trust me. I highly doubt a "multitude" of posters have been welcoming either, unless you are a suck up and say nothing about your team. So, you can go on thinking what you want.

Anyways, for the last time, I was referring to your lil brothers posts that was ignorant and disrespectful. I guess YOU didn't see his posts. I know you "non UK fans" like to come here to stick your nose in conversations just to start an argument but it wasn't about you. I know you guys need to stick together when on enemy territory but lil brother will never learn if you keep fighting his battles for him. Let the boy stand on his own 2 feet for once, it will help him in the long run. You'll be doing him a favor. Then again, he probably doesn't have much of a chance anyways.
 
Alkins will be at an Adidas school IMO and UK isn't an option. Bolden will be at UK or Duke. The same can be said for Gabriel and Giles (although Duke is way out in front for both).

UK's Class: Fox, Monk, Killeya-Jones, Bolden and one more unknown IMO.

This is not meant to pick at you, but I was scrolling back through this thread and noticed you saying Duke was way out ahead for Gabriel.

Why did you think that?

Interesting that the insider who posted yesterday said it has been UK for a while.
 
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