Lamont Butler
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I am not going to tell anyone how to feel, but I would tell people who have doubts to think about it this way:
Going into next season, if your goal is to advance as far as possible, would you rather have a guy who has been playing junk ball in the AAU circuit as your starting point guard, or would you rather have the guy who was the starting point guard on a national championship finalist team? I mean, just think about the stages this guy has played on versus the guys we had been getting. He is not going to blink- unlike some of the talented freshmen.
Going into next season, if your goal is to advance as far as possible, would you rather have a guy who has been playing junk ball in the AAU circuit as your starting point guard, or would you rather have the guy who was the starting point guard on a national championship finalist team? I mean, just think about the stages this guy has played on versus the guys we had been getting. He is not going to blink- unlike some of the talented freshmen.
Why would you think he's coming here "for the bench?"
He's not. A player who's had the stellar career as a starter that he has for highly ranked SDSU teams that did far better than UK when it counted ...including reaching a national championship game and two straight Sweet 16s ...ain't interested in moving to the bench for his final year.
He's coming here with the intent to be our starting PG. As even his dad acknowledged. That doesn't mean it'll work it out that way, but that's his plan.
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No you said something without proof.
I said that in a post. We have to get a haul this weekend or next season will be rough. The concern was the urgency they showed a guy who definitely doesn't fit the mold of what we're told he was looking for.
Well we should be able to play some damn defense this year at least. Not sure the fit though..we'll see who else we get. Better be some ballers that's all I have to say.
A 25 year old floor general with final four experience who can get the ball to shooters, what's not to like?
Agreed. He will be the starting PG. What is wrong with this board? Thinking an all conference defensive player who was instrumental in getting his team to the Final Four coming here as a depth player and not a starterā¦ā¦.. So he is not a three point wizard. We had three of those last year and look where it got us.
Surely an intelligent individual such as yourself. Understands the importance of shooting in todayās game?
Worst thing to have is unrealistic expectations.
Cat may be on life support but it's still alive.
As a 30 year Aztec Season tickets holder that has seen almost all of Lamonts games, here is what you are getting.
-A big bodies strong defender. Non stop pressure D for 40 minutes.
-A great team player.
-A good rebounding guard.
-Passes well, drives to the hoop well and finishes down low well.
-A good free throw shooter.
-A player that rises to the occasion in key moments on both ends of the floor.
-A fair outside shooter who is working hard in that area.
-A player that set his L.A. High School career scoring record. Yes, breaking Reggie Millers record.
- A major plus in the community from a solid family background.
-A coachable player
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On the downside be ready to be disappointed in some decisions he makes with the ball while dribbling.
Be ready to be frustrated with how inconsistent he is with his jumper. Sometimes his shot looks picture perfect and on occasion you shake your head.
All in all you are getting a very good player and a winner in basketball and life.
Happy to hear the positives. Hope we can coach out of those inconsistencies.
If you wanna compare him to some of our other point guards I'll venture that he is more like Marcus Teague
A lot of positives to look forward too thank you so much for the insight itās very much appreciated!
Butler is not on those ratings lists because he entered the portal only about 1-1/2 days before his commitment to UK.He's not even ranked in the top 100 of transfer players. Apologies if I am not over the moon excited about this guy.
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I hope most of that's true, but he's not a good ft shooter. 59% this year, was 72% over his first 3 years which is only decent for a guard.
Read on the Aztec's board that it's been speculated that his fame from that last second shot affected him this year. I dunno how it would, but it'd be great if he could get up to at least 75% this season.
This guy is the best point guard we have had in a long time.
72 percent IMO is good, but definatley not great. He started this around 29 per cent thru his approximate first 10 games. It was in his head.
He shot free throws very well the rest of the season to raise his percentage to 59 percent. Maybe some math major can figure what percent he shot his last 25 games to raise his percentage from 29 to 59.
One of our many weaknesses, this past year was defending the three point shot. We will get some help on that part of the game from this guy. We were also poor at defending the straight line drive. And this guy will help Shore that up.
He started for a team that made national title game and a sweet 16
I value outside shooting but I do realize it isn't the only thing that matters.
I bet some would be at least a little surprised to find that of UCONN's top nine players by minutes or points per game that only three of them shot 35% or better from the outside and one of them was barely there and another was at almost 38%.
Strange that people hated poor shooting guards under Cal but it will be fine if Pope does it.Interesting.
Here is a good description for you older basketball fans...
Lamont Butlers game reminds me a lot like former Indiana guard Quinn Buckner. Although Butler has a little on the ball offensively than Quinn did.
Lamont Butlers game reminds me a lot like former Indiana guard Quinn Buckner. Although Butler has a little on the ball offensively than Quinn did.
He's not even ranked in the top 100 of transfer players. Apologies if I am not over the moon excited about this guy.
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Here are the top 80 players who enterted the transfer portal during college basketball's 2024 offseason
My goodness, is this ever stupid. The reason heās not on those lists is because he just entered the portal only like a day before he committed to UK. It was one of the quickest turnarounds from entry to commitment ever. Thus there simply was not enough time for them to re-do the lists for his inclusion.
You are dumber than dirty dishwater if you actually believe heās not one of the 100 best portal guys.
If heās surrounded by 3-4 consistent shooters then Iād have no complaints. I really like Butler as a player. I love lockdown defenders at PG & I love the idea of having two conference DPOY on the roster. But, I donāt know if heās the best fit for this particular team if the roster plays out like some think it will.
AW will start at C & he is a non-shooter. If we land Osobor, as some expect, heād most certainly start & heās not a shooter, either. So, if it works out that way weād be starting 3/5 guys who are poor shooters & no threat, whatsoever, outside of 10-12 feet. I just canāt see any team winning anything of significance with that formula in todayās game.
If we can get a cpl true knockdown shooters to play with him, that would change my opinion, drastically. I know weāre in on a few but they are coming off the board fast. But, forget rock fights, weāll be in boulder fights if Butler, Osobor & AW are playing 25-30 mpg together.
If our coaching staff wants this guy, I'm gonna trust them over a bunch of armchair coaches who immediately spout off negatively about someone they know literally ZERO about. All because he was not who they "expected/wanted". Just lol at the first page of reactions.
Marquis Teague wasnāt a great shooter, either. He and Turner have something in common, howeverā¦ā¦ā¦.
Yeah, I thought about editing it to remove "terrible," but I would say DJ Wagner as a starter, compared to what was on the team, was terrible. So, the average PER of players in the portal is around 17.3, which I place as an average player. I'm not sure how to use PER as a factor when rating guards, because it seems to favor C/PF/SF, but 14.3 is well below average....as was DJ Wagner.
Like I said, if he ends up being a bench player, this is a good get. Starter? Eh.
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Something to consider is that we may have a wild card in collin chandler. He's six foot five and he played point guard all of his high school career. He may be a little shaky at first. Getting his feet back under him after two years away from basketball, However, some had him pencilled in making the big 12 all freshmen team as a byu player. And he'll be a freshman and twenty years old plus expected to be a multi year Collegian.
I haven't changed perspectives and 35% isn't poor, it is average.
You are extrapolating an extreme opinion that I do not and have never held. Outside shooting is important but far from the only aspect of he game that matters.
Heās the dude who hit the shot to send them to the National Championship game. I like this commit if true. He is the type of leader we have lacked over the years.
