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Simple minds think alike.............Congrats.
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What is this eat clock argument in going for it?
The extra 22 yards they would have to get to get to the same starting position? Is that the eat clock argument? Even though they'd have to go many fewer yards to get to FG range as opposed to TD? The yardage cancels out bc FG vs TD...probably needed 65-68 to get into FG range from the 2...would've needed a full 75 after a FG and touchback...
What is this eat clock argument in going for it?
Obviously much harder on offense backed into EZ - but also much harder on offense to score a td vs get into FG range.
Let class begin:
- "The extra 22 yards they would have to get to get to the same starting position? Is that the eat clock argument? Even though they'd have to go many fewer yards to get to FG range as opposed to TD?" Kind of a muddle, but I'll attempt to decipher your point. Many facets to this, so I'll go s l o w l y. First off, if you go for it from the 2, you can score and WIN! That alone is enough for the argument. BUT, in the case that you went and missed, you used up one plays worth of clock. Maybe 4, maybe 6 seconds, who knows, but you use clock AND leave them with 98 yards to score to beat you......or 78 yards from a 37 yard attempt (NOT MANY FEWER YARDS!) for the much dreaded tie! Are you with me??? Let's just throw in their for kicks that playing out of your own end zone is a little bit tougher than other parts of the field. Big consideration for a "thinking" man. You CAN'T take a sack = Game over. So it changes the play calling, most likely forcing some runs or short passes to start...using even more clock......Wouldn't it be something if you doubters were as certain of our touchdown as you are of their field goal, LMAO.....and they were 1 for 3 on FG's going into that final series!!
- "The yardage cancels out bc FG vs TD...probably needed 65-68 to get into FG range from the 2...would've needed a full 75 after a FG and touchback". Where do you come up with this stuff? 65 yards puts them in range for a 50 YARD FIELD GOAL. REALLY???? So he's 1 for 3, one blocked, and you are confident he's going to knock it down from 50?? Did they sub in Jan Stenerud?? LMAO!!!! It doesn't cancel out jack. ...and you also just opened up the possibility of them running the ball back for a TD, or running it back past the 25, which we know now they ended up with, BUT prior to the decision, we had no idea, thus adding in more ways to LOSE the game!!!!......So, even from the 25, they now have more clock, as no time ran off on the touchback. What you have done now is put them into position to WIN THE GAME, albeit 23 yards CLOSER to your goal line! Dumb idea isn't it. No telling how much clock it would have taken from the 2 to get to the 25, let alone to the 20, for that 37 yard field goal, which he still was unlikely to make based on this night's results, versus the path you chose, which had 3 LOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG plays for TD's.
I get your point completely ; )
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Pretty Win !You like to win. We have to win style Which is better, ugly win or pretty loss?
The guy is incapable of understanding that Missouri could kick a FG and win in overtime, let alone that that was their best chance of winning.
I think another thing being overlooked about kicking the FG is it gave us a chance to still win with a FG if Missouri happened to score a TD with some time left on the clock. If we had tried and failed to score a TD, we would have been looking at a hail mary scenario for ourselves if Missouri took a 4 point lead.
I was leaning towards wanting to go for it during the game myself, but kicking the field goal obviously left Missouri in a much more difficult situation than had we gone for the TD and failed.
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Simple minds think alike.............Congrats.
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most of this board is falling all over themselves to see who can look dumber.
I think one has had the hardest fall.
Shhhhhhhhhhhh., Caveman, I'm trying to get KatFootballFan to exceed the Barnhardt "rant count" of Jauk11 . . . . another 20 pages, or so, and we will have another first since Bear Bryant!
You mean that U of L had a shooting & FB players were involved? Why wasn't this incident reported by UL or by the CJ?Did UL ever discover who shot their football players?
Reported...investigated?????? Never happening under the emperor's watch. He is gone NIW wonder if that will change?You mean that U of L had a shooting & FB players were involved? Why wasn't this incident reported by UL or by the CJ?
Funny thing is is if that happened and UK lost in OT you would probably be the first one on here screaming 'WHY DIDN'T THEY KICK THE FIELD GOAL?' You know it, I know it, we all know it.One more time:
If we go for it on 4th and miss, we leave them with 98+or- to go for a touchdown to win. NOT concerned about a tie, as we are playing to win....so you go for the win, NOT to "Eliminate the Tie, while still allowing them a final shot at beating us!!!!....albeit 23 yards closer to the endzone....Stopping them from beating us is GREATER THAN (>) the threat of tying us, thus you put them as far away from said "win" or "beating us" as possible, and in this case it was the 2. The tie is NOT as important as the possibility of LOSING the game IN REGULATION, lol. The, as in THE worst case scenario here was going into overtime, versus the loss. I'll take a second chance in OT versus a loss all day long. Giving them the ball on the 25 INCREASED their chances of beating us.....by 23 yards and few extra seconds. Why would anybody do this??????...................You can still switch camps. Seeing the light is much better than being blind to the facts.
Funny thing is is if that happened and UK lost in OT you would probably be the first one on here screaming 'WHY DIDN'T THEY KICK THE FIELD GOAL?' You know it, I know it, we all know it.
Stoops decision to go for it on 4th and 1 on our side of the field was a pretty gutsy call too.
We won, who cares. He obviously made the right call because it was much harder for them to score a TD than it was to make a field goal as they were already in field goal range. Maybe he looked at his team and thought they were too gassed to make it through OT. You'll never know because you're just an armchair coach.
KFF, are you implying that military members are incapable of thinking?