My fear is every road game for every team in the SEC will require more than a B+ effort. Road games require an A+ effort. Vandy beat TN, I did not watch the game but I think we need to bring the same the same mindset in Nashville that we need to have in Knoxville. Vandy scares me if our team thinks a B+ effort will get a W, it won't. We are not good enough to give anything but an A+ effort.
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I was feeling pretty confident about Saturday until you mentioned Bobby Flay. We are so screwed.
Agree.
If Vandy gives an A effort, a B+ effort from UK won’t be enough.
The game is pretty even meaning whichever team plays better wins in my opinion.
Appreciate the novel. Carr won’t be healthy. Butler won’t be healthy enough to be himself. Best case scenario is we win without needing much from either of them so those two can rest. Second best case scenario, in my mind, is we get buried so quickly that we decide we may as well rest those two anyway.
I like the way our team (healthy) and our style of play matches up against what you’re describing in principle. We shoot amazingly well when we have the freedom to whip the ball back and forth and let the plays heat up. Swipe attempts we can weather. It’s large, mobile guys that defend by playing the odds against the refs and pushing the boundaries of “physical” play that short circuit most of what we do. This is a game where I expect Travis Perry, our freshman third string PG and all-time Kentucky High School leading scorer, to excel in. So hopefully that will compensate for us not having Butler at his peak and keep us from playing him hurt.
Everything’s always different on the hardwood than it is in principle. I’m excited to see these two new coaches go at each other and I expect an exciting, high-energy game regardless of outcome. Thanks for the post and for sticking it to UT.
I like the way our team (healthy) and our style of play matches up against what you’re describing in principle. We shoot amazingly well when we have the freedom to whip the ball back and forth and let the plays heat up. Swipe attempts we can weather. It’s large, mobile guys that defend by playing the odds against the refs and pushing the boundaries of “physical” play that short circuit most of what we do. This is a game where I expect Travis Perry, our freshman third string PG and all-time Kentucky High School leading scorer, to excel in. So hopefully that will compensate for us not having Butler at his peak and keep us from playing him hurt.
Everything’s always different on the hardwood than it is in principle. I’m excited to see these two new coaches go at each other and I expect an exciting, high-energy game regardless of outcome. Thanks for the post and for sticking it to UT.
We wanted Travis Perry bad. He’s a stud.
Thanks for sharing ....
Those are the thoughts I share with you, in fact. Ever since the SEC tournament started back up, I felt (but I was a kid back then) that Vandy had the kind of monetary resources that maybe none of the other schools COULD HAVE devoted towards basketball. I just remember how excited I was to get to go see my two favorite teams, driving down to Birmingham with the Big Blue Caravan, and after getting there, seeing NONE of the other schoopls even bother to bring their cheerleaders to the games. I think Vandy was the only one that had at least some of them. Maybe the higher ups in the early games felt like they stood no chance, why not save money with showing as little as possible towards supporting their teams ....
and it was disappointing. HUGELY so for, for a kid. Meanwhile, the Kentucky cheerleaders ? well ... no matter where we went (and I got to personally know those suads back in the 70's, 80's) me and my family were the ONLY people in the upper decks of arenas with Big Blue Shakers and gear that the cheerleaders saved for me to take back up top for everyone with our group.
Even though disappointed, I have always felt close to Vandy, being a Nashville native, and seeing so much memorial gym magic over the years, well, even when it happened to Kentucky, I have to admit ... it was cool to see the joy and happiness of the fans when it happened.
I was glad to be there. Wouldnt trade it for nothing.
Good luck this weekend, Vandy's got a fine coach, I hope he stays a long time and we can look forward to the renewed rivalry !
Love watching the Tyler Tanner kid out of Brentwood Academy. Dude did not commit his FIRST turnover until the Missouri game on 1/11 (went the first 15 games without a turnover). Had 31 assist to ZERO turnovers before that game. On the year he has 37 assist and ONLY 2 turnovers. 18.5/1 ratio, unheard of. Playing 20 mpg and only having 2 turnovers in 19 games is amazing, even if he only averages 2 assist per game. The kid can ball.
Why be an ass to the guy ? He didn't flame or troll. I think he is a pretty solid poster, doesn't call his coach by his first name only as if he was family (like you), so honestly, if I had to choose between one of the two of you as far as posting credentials, well,,,,,,,
All of that is true and I completely agree, he’s a fun watch and he’s really good.
In HS, he was a pure scorer and shooter but hasn’t really been asked to do that yet. I believe that is by design as we have a lot of older guys and Coach Byington wants to rely on them. With that said, Tanner is capable of getting his own shot any time he wants it and Id love to see a little more offensive aggression but I believe that’ll come in due time (I think, but you never know until you see it).
He trains with Darius Garland’s personal coach and has for years. Tanner and DG still text and talk on the phone a good bit. That’s quite the mentor to have and while neither of the above things will make him great, the work ethic and the tools to succeed are there.
I believe Tanner will be a starter next year and a lot of fun to watch.
Really really strange that opponents PPG isn’t on this chart. I love how this was put together, it’s very cool but judging solely by this, it appears that UK is the FAR superior team.
Vandy gives up 69.6 ppg
UK gives up 76.1 ppg
I would think this should have been in there. UK still has the overall edge statistically though imho.
Did not mean to offend with the B+ comment. If I may explain my thought process:
Vandy does not play the overly physical game that gives us the most problem. Both teams play
a similar type game in that respect(more finesse) Teams don't hit their A game every night out.
If both teams play their B+ game, who wins(granted you have the home court advantage) I think UK has the advantage being a bit older and maybe more battle tested. We probably can't win with less than a B+ effort
We have had a week to prepare and Cal isn't on the sidelines anymore. Looking forward to a basketball game
as opposed to a rock fight or WWE event.
Fair!
I wasn’t offended, brother. I was just saying that I felt like whomever plays better wins. I do think UK is a better overall team but it’s not by a super wide margin.
Looks like UK is a better shooting team and has better size. Vandy appears to be a better defensive team.
Should be fun!
Great civil discussion (other than a couple childish post) with both sides providing solid points. Who knew grown adults could discuss topics without name calling. I guess the key is having grown adults with grown adult minds. Go figure.
I'm just hoping Kentucky's players have their attention squarely where it belongs -- on the Arkansas game, at least going by all the UK comments on Southeastern 16.
Naah, focus on the tempo free numbers. Both these teams are in the top 50 fastest in the nation so PPG understates their defenses.
With that in mind both Pomeroy and Torvik have UK around 80th in D eff and VU only a few slots higher. They agree that Kentucky is the 3rd offense in the land (behind the two Alabama teams, because that's the year it is in the SEC) and obv we're not near that efficient, though not too shabby in the high 30s.
At home I don't think we have to play the game of our lives or anything, but we do have to play well and take advantage of minor lapses from Kentucky. Byington showed he can get the team doing that last week but this is going to be a much different challenge from TN as an offense-oriented team at a faster tempo than us.
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